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ruthiegirl
Monday, February 25, 2013, 6:00pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Corn-based dextrose is not likely to harm somebody who tolerates corn. Some As do just fine on corn, especially A secretors. The amount of sugar isn't going to affect anything directly, so if corn is neutral or better for you, iodized salt with dextrose isn't likely to be toxic. However, the processed salt itself may cause problems because it's devoid of the trace minerals found naturally in sea salt, and it's without other nutrients and probiotics found in fermented salty foods (such as tamari and ume plum vinegar, even if they were made with refined salt.) That type of sodium may or may not lead to bloating and water retention in sensitive individuals.

If you're one of those individuals who gets bloated from too much salt, and you get bloated from consuming tamari or ume plum vinegar, then you'll need to carefully limit serving sizes in the future. You don't have to completely avoid these foods, but measure carefully when using them. Even the lowest-sodium diets allow for 2,000 mg (2 grams) of salt per day- so a dash of ume vinegar is acceptable if you don't use other salt in that dish.

Seeing your body gain a pound in one day means nothing from a fat-loss perspective, but it can be useful if you're prone to bloating. Some people do need to keep track of sudden increases in water weight. I'm not sure if one pound is enough to worry about, but I do know it was a medical emergency when my father gained 10 pounds of water weight in a week.


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Wow guys.   Thank you all so much.  I feel I have a much better understanding about salt.  

Right now I am about 80% whole foods.  I do still buy some packaged items such as tempheh, artichoke hearts, hearts of palm, vegan chocolate, carob powder and I cheat sometimes & buy beans in a can for when I do not have time to prepare ahead.  

Right now, I am using regular table salt from Mortons.  It is iodized.  I was going to buy some sea salt last night, after reading your replies, but had one more question.

Should I buy regular sea salt, or iodized sea salt.  Does this make a difference?  As soon as I get back you responses, I'm off to the health food store to buy sea salt!  

Thanks so much.

BTW, off topic, Congratulations Peppermint Twist for losing 96 lbs!     You are an inspiration.  I need to lose 68 lbs.  Any tips will be appreciated.  
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The iodized sea salt has corn-based dextrose in it, which is harmful for anybody who does not tolerate corn. How does corn rate for you on SWAMI? Are you planning on feeding anybody else who may not do well on corn?


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I believe that an unrefined salt is much superior to refined salt.  Unrefined salt is a whole food and Morton's salt is only a portion of what real salt normally contains.  

Sea salt is better.
Himalayan Crystal Salt and Celtic Seasalt is better still.

You can get your iodine from other sources.  



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Thank you Victoria.  On my way to the health food store.  
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You can get your iodine from other sources.  


Not only can, but should!


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Went to Whole Foods Market and bought the Himalayan Pink Sea Salt...course in a grinder.  Oh my goodness.  What flavor!  It not only salts your food but, it tastes better.

After reading your posts, I did some research on salt & found a great article on http://www.naturalnews.com.  It says that Himalayan Pink Sea Salt contains the full spectrum of 84 minerals & trace elements.  Wow!  Who would want to take all of that goodness out of our salt?  

Thanks all for the posts.  I never knew there was so much to know about salt.  
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I have a salt grinder and only use the Himalayan Pink Sea salt in it. I do not like the taste of regular, processed salt but I love the pink salt.  I can buy the salt in bulk at my HFS, much less expensive that way, $4.00 worth will last me about two months, and I use it freely everyday.


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Yes.  WFM has the Himalayan Pink Sea salt in bulk.  I was going to buy it until I saw the little one w/ the grinder style bottle.  Figured I'd buy that one since I don't have a grinder at home.  So I bought that.  But, as it turns out, the plastic grinder cap is not very good.  It is really difficult to turn & the little chunks of salt get stuck.  

I am off to buy a "real" grinder for my wonderful, flavorful, healthy & beautiful Pink Sea salt.  So, yes, next time I will buy in bulk.

You know, WFM also had some black Hawaiian Sea salt.  Anyone ever heard of that?
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I have used the black salt before, I use it when I cook beans sometimes. It's basically salt with charcoal, that's what makes it look black. If you miss black pepper it would give you the visual effect.


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...as it turns out, the plastic grinder cap is not very good.  It is really difficult to turn & the little chunks of salt get stuck.
Can you return it for a refund/exchange?

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You know, WFM also had some black Hawaiian Sea salt.  Anyone ever heard of that?
I thought it had a higher level of sulphur in it?

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My issue with the "off the shelf" grinders with the product included is that they are mostly made of plastic, and I feel like bits of plastic are being ground into my salt...


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Magnum makes the best ones I've used.

http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UT.....f=pd_sl_9oazflk655_e
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I believe that ceramic is the best material for salt grinders because any metal parts can corrode from contact with salt.



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I just ordered a ceramic grinder specifically designed for course salts.


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I've had a William Bounds salt grinder for about 15 years, metal and some kind of hard plastic, no visible corosion, I do live in a very arid envirnoment though.


“Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It’s perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we’ve learned something from yesterday.”

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I just bought some Umeboshi Plum Vinegar - I used one tablespoon to flavor some rice that I ate for three meals over three days. (I had poured it into the water that I was boiling it in.)

The rice  tasted salted enough from the Umeboshi Plum Vinegar. I did not need any more salt for the dish. (A little goes a long ways!)


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Yes, I am getting the feeling that some of the plastic from the cap is being ground w/ the salt. Yuck.  Will look into the grinders you have recommended.
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Ok...to recap, with the salt, it could be low iodine, low BP, adrenal insufficiency, or zinc insufficiency.

I know I am under tremendous stress at work, and it is more than current stress.  It is years of accumulated stress upon me, particularly the past 13 years.  I think this may point to an adrenal insufficiency.  How can I supplement for this?  

With regards to the iodine, I have begun taking Bladderwrack which has iodine, perhaps I can increase that a little and see how I feel.  

I may need to get a mineral supplement for the zinc.  I am not taking any vitamins or minerals at this time.  Just the bladderwrack & B12.

  • Quit all caffeine consumption. (1 cup of green tea a day might be OK though)
  • Try to keep the glycemic load of your meals down: Limit fast carbohydrates (= sugar), and don't eat 'just' carbohydrates; try to combine them with some fat and/or protein. Also: don't start your day with fruit!
  • Up your intake of (natural) vitamin C and B (For vitamin C preferably low sugar sources like watercress, or supplementing acerola cherry powder might work. And for vitamin B; taken a spoonful of bee pollen might be a good addition.
  • Get enough sleep
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