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Food voyeur! I love that!  

I made one of my old favorites the other evening: butternut squash tortellini with sage butter sauce. All compliant with rice pasta and goat milk substitutions, and it was every bit as good as the semolina and cream version. Looked different, but still beautiful.
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No no. They're not. You haven't eaten mine!  Yes, I've eaten at Waffle House - I do believe twice in my life. But compliant stuff is just so much better! I think I have to get off this subject..... I get sick just thinking about eating stuff that nearly kills people!  



I bet I would like yours.  They probably are better than waffle house!!!!  I have never had any that were made with good, compliant ingredients.  It's probably something I should look into.  I do have a waffle iron.  Do you have a good recipe?  Does it use any fermented dairy?  I can't do those right now.  


Look you guys, Amazone, I've had these cravings before and never gave into binging on bad foods.  I enjoy food.  I have LOVED eating healthy food. I do think it tastes waaaaaay better than bad, processed foods.  And I would LOVE to have the energy to expand my repertoire. And LORD willing I will.   And that my body would be OK with it.  There are foods that are good for you that don't sit well with me, so those are frustrating too.  It's just a craving for something different.  And yes, even the occasional "unhealthy" food is not a horrible idea.  

There's no reason to get crazy about all this.  I did give a warning "read at your own risk".  I have no idea what's in a waffle house waffle and why that would be so damaging, other than wheat.  There's probably oils and what not.  And I get it, those foods can do harm.   But it's my opinion that it's only if you make a habit of it.  Once in a while isn't going to hurt some people.  And the plain fact of the matter is, I would have a lot more options and feel less constricted, if my body wasn't so sensitive to bad foods.  And really, my goal is to be able to indulge once in a while without it knocking me down so bad.  You really think that that is an awful thing?  

What if you had a car accident and ended up in the hospital.  And the only thing on the menu is, well, hospital food.  What are you gonna do, say I can't eat any of this because it's not on my BTD.  I was in the hospital for a week a couple of years ago, ate their food and survived.  I did my best.  And I had my wife bring me my chammomile tea and fresh ginger.  But I ate their fish and I can't remember what else I had.  Food.  I ate it.  I survived.  

The fact is, we might find ourselves in situations where we CAN'T eat what is BEST for us.  And we have to do our best.  So.......  

My cravings are my cravings.  There's no need to pee pee on my parade.  I did say read at your own risk.  I like to reminisce about food.  Good, bad, ugly and pretty.  Past, present and future.   As some suggest, there might be physical reasons.  Like my body NEEDS something.  Or, it might just be an emotional thing.  But whatever.  I'm sorry if I hurt any of you.  I was just wanting to talk about it.

I miss bananas too.  
  


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Me too! I always ask about food, what did people have for dinner on the phone, and I love hearing about what there was at special events. At christmas time I liked looking at all the mince pies, christmas cake, flapjacks and things laid out on the table for pudding, it sort of made me feel happy (I'd made my own compliant dark chocolate mousse) and I kept encouraging everyone to have clotted cream with their mince pies-I used to adore clotted cream! One of my sisters pointed it out I also go through phases of watching loads of food documentaries. The other day I started watching one where they were making butternut squah ravioli, but then I got really annoyed about how much health destroying wheat is used by chefs in general and turned off in disgust lol. I wish there were some health concious-gluten free/paleo/blood type diet T.V chefs around. They would have such a good influence on the health of the public! I think that will come though actually, as alternative nutritional messages reach the mainstream more.  

Sorry I got a bit of the topic of this thread. But I guess I'm saying-I know it wouldn't cut it for some, but for me it's possible to enjoy avoids vicariously sometimes, and quite a harmless way of doing so


I totally agree about the cooking shows.  So many of them just use bad ingredients all the time.  I remember Bobby Flay say, "I'll never sacrifice taste for health".  Well, that's easy to say when you don't have bad health.  But healthy food can taste really good.  So I totally don't agree with him.  I used to watch a guy called "Nathan Lyon".  He had a show called "Lyon in the Kitchen".  And his food was rather healthy.  But yes, it would be really sweet if there was a popular, well done cooking show that was truly healthy.   But with some of them they go the other way and do things like: no butter, no fat, no meat.  Pfffffft.  


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What if you had a car accident and ended up in the hospital.  And the only thing on the menu is, well, hospital food.  What are you gonna do, say I can't eat any of this because it's not on my BTD.  I was in the hospital for a week a couple of years ago, ate their food and survived.  I did my best.  And I had my wife bring me my chammomile tea and fresh ginger.  But I ate their fish and I can't remember what else I had.  Food.  I ate it.  I survived.  
  


God forbid, if I found myself hospitalized, I'd insist on gluten-free food, but I don't think I'd worry overly much about corn or potatoes. When Jack was hospitalized 4 years ago, I didn't yet know about BTD but I knew how much wheat hurt me, and I had a very hard time finding food to eat. I couldn't afford to be dizzy and falling apart when he needed me! It might actually be easier if I was the patient, because then I wouldn't have to get out of bed and walk to the cafeteria.


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Being hospitalized doesn't really scare me...my family has been told that if I were ever in the hospital they will have to cook for me and bring me food.    I have friends that I have told that too also.   The thing that does scare me though...is that there could be corn by products in the intravenus (sp?) they give you.   I have told my hubby many times, if he is there, to make sure there isn't any corn in my lifeline.   

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God forbid, if I found myself hospitalized, I'd insist on gluten-free food, but I don't think I'd worry overly much about corn or potatoes. When Jack was hospitalized 4 years ago, I didn't yet know about BTD but I knew how much wheat hurt me, and I had a very hard time finding food to eat. I couldn't afford to be dizzy and falling apart when he needed me! It might actually be easier if I was the patient, because then I wouldn't have to get out of bed and walk to the cafeteria.



I don't think I ate the bread there when I was there.  But I don't think it would do to me what it would it does to you if I did.  Grains are not that hard on me.  In fact, some grains are good.  All wheat is a black dot on my swami.  Even white flour.  

I guess we all have our areas to look out for.  No way would I expect people to cook for me if I was in the hospital.  It just wouldn't be feasible. Maybe here and there.  I think there are enough foods I can get away with that wouldn't mess with me that much.  Maybe I'm not as sensitive as I think I am.  I sure am a whole lot more than the people around me.  


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This is a fun thread.  I'm sure most of us like to talk about our cravings.
You asked what I craved.  I think the lowly potato is high on the list!
I also like fried chicken & typical veggies. The crunch of an egg roll also sounds good along with the fat it has! Thankfully, I didn't grow up on pasta, but once I got into it after I was married, it was addictive. But as the years go by(yes, years), certain cravings get less.

I don't think I had commercial pizza till I was grown, but once you try Chicago deep dish pizza, it can be addictive! I am glad I can't eat certain foods, as I would be an addict!  They say a foodaholic would be an alcoholic if they drank. I'm glad I didn't develop that habit. Of course, I can't tolerate caffeine, let alone booze.


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Wow. I have all kinds of food images dancing around in my head right now!!!
I just posted on another thread how I was a previous bread addict.
Got to admit, it was a little risky of me to read this.. ...as warm croissants, chewy artisan toast, even grilled cheese sandwiches with jalapenos are making my mouth water!!! ......
OK, reality check...I am now off to grill my perfectly seasoned tilapia, make some brown rice with evoo sauteed red and yellow peppers and onions, and make a romaine, arugula, carrot, alfalfa sprout and feta salad! All compliant and yummy.
And.....bake my almond butter cookies...


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JJR, if this is your idea of a parade, have at it! But I like my "parade" to bring visions of feeling wonderful because of eating the things I know will bring that result! OF COURSE, people can eat avoids sometimes and get away with it IF their bodies are in good shape. But my wish for you is that you would feel wonderful all the time NOT eating avoids. People who are healthy and strong are not especially looking for a goal of "looking over the fence!"


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Thanks for the laugh, PC!


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JJR, your post had me laughing out loud!

I so get what you're describing; those cravings for very specific foods that used to taste so insanely good at times, before we got healthy (healthier at least) and started eating right for our bodies.

There are days when all I think about is some potatoe chips with salsa dip, or a big plateful of french fries with about a bucket of mayonnaise, but until now I can control myself.

I'm hoping you've found some healthy alternatives to your cravings, I haven't found anything that adequately replaces the french fries with mayo, though


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Do jelly beans actually use shellac?????  Wow.  That propolyne glycol, I think that goes in some lotions too.  

Yeah, I don't think I'm craving the bad stuff.  Just food that tastes good and I don't have to make.  That stuff gives me the willies.  I never was a "candy" lover.  Too sweet.  I ate some here and there as a kid, but it was never like a love for me.  

I used to like mayo with fries too!!!!!  

I figured out another food I really miss.  Pot Pies.  We used to eat at Boston Market and I liked their food a lot at one point.  Their meatloaf.  It's all bad though.  I would imagine.  But they had really good pot pies.  I loved pot pies.  I saw a commercial and wouldn't you know it but KFC has pot pies now.  

Mrs. T, I've had that deep dish pizza.  I forget which place we went to, but we went to one of those places with the "famous" chicago pizza.  But really, I like a thin crust much better.  That's just too much dough, IMHO.  I could never eat a lot of that.  I'd rather have thinner slices and get more of the tomato sauce and pepperoni.  And have a little bit of crunch to go with it.  Not too much.  But some.  

Compliant almond butter cookies sound really good.  


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Chloe is right. The longer you stay away from something.. like wheat, the less you want it.  It contains an opiate that causes you to be addicted to it.  Now the GMO which is not even wheat is worse as far as addicting.
If you still eat any form of wheat, it will cause cravings for anything made of it.
However, I can't do anything about the chicken wings..
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KFC had pot pies years and years ago. Back when I was burning calories like a bonfire I would eat a KFC pot pie occasionally when I had been doing a lot of intense physical exercise all day....But I can feel my stomach getting queasy just thinking about what they would do to me now. Likely they were not as poisonous back then as they are now.


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Sometimes talking about it helps. I'd jump right in there with ya but I'd probably get my head chopped off

We had Thanksgiving catered by Boston Market. It was tasty but the dairy from the food made me and my O husband sick. The non dairy stuff doesn't make me sick though.

I used to eat fast food a lot and crave it all the time. Now it just makes me feel dirty : / I'll start craving healthy stuff. It's weird. Well not really so weird as my body knows what it needs. The one thing that I can't stand about fast food is all the salt. You know something has too much salt when you feel like you can drink a gallon of water afterwards.
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KFC had pot pies years and years ago. Back when I was burning calories like a bonfire I would eat a KFC pot pie occasionally when I had been doing a lot of intense physical exercise all day....But I can feel my stomach getting queasy just thinking about what they would do to me now. Likely they were not as poisonous back then as they are now.


I just saw KFC advertising pot pies on tv yesterday and they looked soooo good. I've always loved pot pies. I really miss my Amy vegetable pot pie now...well not really...but I miss it. I don't crave it.. Odd that neither one of my sons are fans of pot pies. My O son might eat a beef pot pie once in a great while but the B boy won't eat them now since he got older.   These kids don't know what's good! lol.
As soon as I make a good GF pie dough, I'll make myself one.  
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I just saw KFC advertising pot pies on tv yesterday and they looked soooo good. I've always loved pot pies. I really miss my Amy vegetable pot pie now...well not really...but I miss it. I don't crave it.. Odd that neither one of my sons are fans of pot pies. My O son might eat a beef pot pie once in a great while but the B boy won't eat them now since he got older.   These kids don't know what's good! lol.
As soon as I make a good GF pie dough, I'll make myself one.  

.....When you do, then I could make a pie too! For some reason I have not even bothered with learning new ways to make pie crusts of any type. If I want pie I just make one without a crust! It is funny but before BTD came on the scene, I was making cheesecakes with thick ground almond crusts. There is no telling how many of those things I made back then! Everybody loved them!


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A raisin bagel, or any kind of bagel with some cream cheese would be good.  Mmmmmm....

And then there is always Pumpkin pie.  With whipped cream.  That one I was going to try over the holidays, but I never did.  


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...and hey all of us do cherrish mental eroticismes likewise.....but be aware first ther's a thought...next is action ....



I love all of these foods, in my mind. Never felt good after eating any of it.

With the exception of breads and certain grains, a lot of these foods are about the seasonings and such. Deconstruct some of these dishes and sub compliant foods. We do eat well.

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A raisin bagel, or any kind of bagel with some cream cheese would be good.  Mmmmmm....

And then there is always Pumpkin pie.  With whipped cream.  That one I was going to try over the holidays, but I never did.  


If you're not supposed to have pumpkin, try making a pie with whatever kind of orange root veggies you are allowed. I've made yummy pies with butternut squash as well as sweet potatoes. I've never tried a carrot pie, but that would probably work as well. The occasional whipped cream (ingredients: organic cream, maple syrup, no weird chemicals or refined sugar) is probably OK for anybody without a dairy allergy, as there's so little milk protein in heavy cream. I eat that about once or twice a year.

Is there any kind of soft cheese you're permitted? A raisin bagel (made from rice flour) with goat cheese might be just as yummy as a wheat bagel with cream cheese.


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No, I can have pumpkin.  I was eating it straight out of the can with some nuts mixed in with it for a long time.  I stopped eating it for a bit, but I'll start it up again soon.

But yeah, the whipped cream can be OK.  I did find a brand that doesn't use carageenan.  Odly enough, it was Dean's.  But Organic Prairie uses carageenan.  It's been a long time since I've had any though.  

Goat dairy messes with me.  And cheeses, and cultured cow dairy messes with me.  Cream, butter, and milk doesn't seem to.  Although I don't eat much cream or drink much milk.  Well, I don't drink any milk.  But I order omelette's sometimes and I would imagine they use either cream or milk in them.  


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I totally agree about the cooking shows.  So many of them just use bad ingredients all the time.  I remember Bobby Flay say, "I'll never sacrifice taste for health".  Well, that's easy to say when you don't have bad health.  But healthy food can taste really good.  So I totally don't agree with him.  I used to watch a guy called "Nathan Lyon".  He had a show called "Lyon in the Kitchen".  And his food was rather healthy.  But yes, it would be really sweet if there was a popular, well done cooking show that was truly healthy.

I'd watch that show.
Meanwhile, the chefs making the current run of cooking shows are, for the most part, classically trained, and they do have exquisite understandings of many fine points of flavor. So while Bobby Flay won't sacrifice flavor, he can certainly teach other cooks what to aim for. As we educate ourselves as to what works best for ourselves as individuals, we can adapt his/their examples to our own needs.

It could be that the "cravings" represent (among other things) the differential between the sheer excitement of the flavor results of Flay and other master chefs, and the results the craver is getting in his or her own kitchen. So those cravings can guide you as to what to aim for.

I, for one, have found some of the dadamo participants to be quite skilled at substitutions.


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I hear ya.  Good points.  I also think that sometimes the real flavor of food is covered up and some of them don't appreciate the taste of food.  Instead always adding things for a "better flavor".  

Sweet potatoes are a perfect example.  When you roast them just right, they're sweet, full of flavor and so good.  Yet how many recipes do you see that DON'T add brown sugar or marshmallows or some other junk.  Yeah, sure they can be enhanced.  And sometimes it is a good thing.  But I'll tell you what, I just had some boiled brussel sprouts that with just a little salt and EVOO and they tasted SOOOOO GoOOOOD to me.  Yet most chefs have to add bacon or something else and I think they're missing the real taste of the food.  Which can be very good on it's own.  I did put a touch of curry powder on it too.  But not much at all.  It wasn't that much oil either.  I was tasting the brussels sprouts.  And they tasted fantastic.  Paired with some turkey as my protein and some walnuts.  It was delicious.  


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I also think that sometimes the real flavor of food is covered up and some of them don't appreciate the taste of food.  Instead always adding things for a "better flavor".

I think that most recipes are made to make tastes interact and become more complex combinations of flavor.  Mute the strong ones, bring out the weak flavors, mix in some spice to enhance the main flavors, add some fat to smooth the mouth feel, etc...  This is in addition to what is necessary to make the food moist enough or make the baked good have the proper consistency, etc...


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