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cajun
Wednesday, January 2, 2013, 5:11am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Ee Dan
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Very interesting conversation here.
I recently re-ran my swami because my Mom insists her Dad died from a heart related problem, not pancreatic cancer. I had to change this on my swami.
I went to re-edit, but before changing anything, re-ran as was. It changed my 40% teacher to 39%! I then changed the health data and it said the same.
I decided to re-check some other points...neutral or andric leg/ ethnicicity..
If I change southern European to western, I become 39% Explorer.
If I change legs to neutral, I become 39% Explorer.
The very first time I ran my swami I came out 39% Explorer. I did decide to change the legs and ethnicicity to andric and southern and came out 40% Teacher.
The only reason I changed was because of some confusion on the leg opening..and the fact that I have equally western and southern European ancestry.
Anyway, there is no way to get back my 40% teacher, so I am literally caught in between teacher and explorer..39%/38%.
I am choosing to stay with teacher (torso/leg ratio/ very sinewy), for now, as it has "worked"...but I have always known about my explorer strengths.(fingerprints, brach head, asymmetry)
My O- dad is an explorer. My A+ Mom is explorer or warrior...can't be sure.
I agree about the labels and percentages... confusing sometimes.


 Ao  ISFJ   Taster   Rh+  

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cajun
Wednesday, January 2, 2013, 5:14am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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sorry...need to edit.
I was 41% teacher but swami has changed me to 39% teacher.


 Ao  ISFJ   Taster   Rh+  

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ABJoe
Wednesday, January 2, 2013, 5:32am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Quoted from cajun
sorry...need to edit.
I was 41% teacher but swami has changed me to 39% teacher.

This is an insignificant change...  


RH-, ISTJ
Wonderful Wife = A+ Teacher; Darling Daughter = A- SWAMI Explorer
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ruthiegirl
Wednesday, January 2, 2013, 6:44pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I have to wonder- when SWAMI calls you Explorer or SWAMI calls you Teacher- how much do the food lists actually change?


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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Wednesday, January 2, 2013, 7:36pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Quoted from ruthiegirl
I have to wonder- when SWAMI calls you Explorer or SWAMI calls you Teacher- how much do the food lists actually change?


The change in food lists is often slight.

But it can also be a very dramatic change.


MIfHI                            I follow a SWAMI diet.
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Adopted4
Thursday, January 3, 2013, 1:37am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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When SWAMI changed my genotype from 39% Warrior to 38% Teacher, many of my dairy foods changed dramatically. Many avoid cheeses became superfoods and many previous superfood cheeses became black dot. Coconut oil also went from avoid to superfood. These changes were due to SWAMI recognizing a gut microbial potential problem which often exists in tolerant genotypes such as Teacher. The other changes were less significant upgrades or downgrades from one category up or down.

My understanding of Explorer diets is that it's more restrictive than any other type, so I imagine changing genotypes from or to Explorer is going to result in significant changes in food lists.


Coleen ISF-J, Non-Taster
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Green Root
Thursday, January 3, 2013, 9:01am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Well, my genotype one is not so tolerant...

...but as I however have my worldview as Receptor because of my 8 whorl type fingerprints, could a small-very-tiny amount of very good-quality coconut oil be good? At least topically but also internally?

I KNOW I don't tolerate big amounts so well. I feel some strange feeling in my thyroid I have not in any other situations. My mom and her mom had thyroid problems, but that's not so probable for me as I am male... but anyway, because I may not have so effective immune system as many other Hunters could I every now and then take little amounts coconut oil as treatment?

Besides there is a little uncertainty about my secretor status which I have tested only once via saliva test. But in whole I think secretor is after all more probable for me than non-secretor.


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Quoted from Green Root
...could a small-very-tiny amount of very good-quality coconut oil be good? At least topically but also internally?

I KNOW I don't tolerate big amounts so well. I feel some strange feeling in my thyroid I have not in any other situations. My mom and her mom had thyroid problems, but that's not so probable for me as I am male... but anyway, because I may not have so effective immune system as many other Hunters could I every now and then take little amounts coconut oil as treatment?

The general consensus is that you can use avoids topically, as long as it isn't in an area where it may be accidentally ingested.  Since your body lets you know that coconut oil isn't good for you internally, which matches SWAMI, then I would not use it.  
Of course, you are master of your diet and can choose to eat whatever you want to subject your body to.


RH-, ISTJ
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Thursday, January 3, 2013, 10:20pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Quoted from ABJoe

The body has many mechanisms for "give and take".  Some people who have never had a major illness or trauma do quite well on a heavy avoid diet, as the body have the capacity to process lots of junk.
  
When a person has a major illness, the body has to divert energy from processing the junk to kill the "germ" and heal the illness.  If the person continues to eat a high percentage avoid diet, the body may not have enough reserve capacity to recover fully and this starts the onset of many diseases that are mostly due to build-up the toxins in the body.

When a person has a traumatic accident, it is possible to have nerve damage or other stresses that don't allow the body to function normally and then the onset diseases start...

Sometimes it is possible to clean up the diet, even years later, to the point that the body can start to clean up and heal very old injuries.  It depends on the extent of the injuries done to that point and how effective the person is at using diet, exercise, and targeted supplementation to help the body rebuild the "problem" systems.


It totally agree with this because I feel like my life basically has lived this.  When I was a young boy, I didn't eat very much and was very picky.  And my Mom made good food.  I was a typical kid and liked sweets, but I was drawn to foods that are good for my blood type.  I've always loved turkey, but fish even more. My Mom said she couldn't believe that I liked broccoli, but I did.  We lived with a lot of stress.  I was not unhealthy physically, but my Dad was an alcoholic and I believe we lived with a lot of stress.  

Then as a teenager, I had a different Dad, who was not an alcoholic and a little easier to live with.  I was in sports, and I ate like a horse.  I could eat anything.  I did notice too much starch and sugar in the morning would give me blood sugar crashes. But that was the extent of maladies.  Into in my 20's I ate just about anything and didn't have too much problems.  I could eat boy.  

Then, about 5 years ago, stresses of having a sick kid, dealing with in laws, work stress, lack of sleep, and lymes disease and BAM:  I couldn't eat whatever I wanted to any longer.  No, my body got real picky about what it felt like after eating foods.  And I had to get strict and eat good, nourishing foods that are good for my Blood type.  Well, the best diet for me has been my swami.  

FWIW, I've been a teacher, explorer and Nomad.  And I really am a blend of all of them.  I'm a Nomad now, but it's not the whole picture.

BCGal, maybe you are more of a Gatherer, but you swami just have something checked that isn't completely you.  I say you have to do whatever works.  If the Gatherer diet was better, maybe you should go back to whatever your old lists were.  Just a thought.  



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Spring
Friday, January 4, 2013, 2:32am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Quoted from SquarePeg
I don't understand what compels SWAMI users to re-run their reports in the first place.

I think I waited two years before running it more times, and it was only because Lola suggested that I try running it as a "Non-Secretor," rather than "Unknown."  And then I got curious to see how it would respond by checking off diabetes.  No matter what, I was labeled Explorer, and surprisingly there wasn't a noticeable difference in my food selections.


My SWAMI has danced around a few times. It gave me tomatoes, then it took them away and now they are back. And besides that, there is no way that I can eat them and not suffer considerably! Some people lose weight, and, if they are like me, they find that Big SWAMI will take away the amount you can eat so you will continue to lose! I lost a LOT of fruit after losing a few pounds! But I still have more than enough. I do like to lose weight!


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cajun
Friday, January 4, 2013, 6:00am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Joe,
The significance to me is that now I am literally split..38%/39% between being an explorer or a teacher...

Ruthie,
The 2 food lists are similar ....the major differences are:
as a teacher I get chicken eggs as a superfood / neutral as explorer
"          " no red meat at all..all are avoids/ lamb is neutral as explorer
poultry and seafood are almost the same for both
I get completely different cheeses for each but only one is a teacher superfood where 3 are super for explorer
vegetable proteins are abundant as teacher/ more limited as explorer
oils are similar
carbs are a little mixed, some similar
less live foods as teacher/ a lot for explorer
berries, lemons for both but the rest of fruit is mixed up
spices are mixed
condiments and teas (except green) are different
soy, rice and almond milk are neutrals as teacher/ all avoids as explorer
teacher serving frequency says 4x (fruits) or 3x(turkey)...explorer says 3x and 2x

Both diets emphasize cell detox and de-emphasize allergens, high mold/pesticide
Both say I have a reactive world view
There are 5 calculator points for explorer/ only 3 for teacher
There are 6 first strength pass for explorer/ only 4 for teacher
Both have 4 second pass

I honestly prefer my swami teachers food list....
I may change to my swami explorer just to see if my body reacts any differently.


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