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D.L.
Monday, October 1, 2012, 2:17pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Yes, EP, that is an interesting and timely article. Thank you for posting it. From personal experience, in the last year and eight months, I had given up eating almost all cholesterol. I diligently checked all labels and ate hardly any cholesterol-containing proteins. My cholesterol had been dangerously high but I had to stop taking the statins the doctor prescribed because of inflamed liver. So I have been taking red yeast rice instead, and milk thistle to heal my liver. Well, my cholesterol dropped a lot but is still pretty high, my LDL is too high, my HDL is too low, and my triglycerides are still way too high. So the practically meat-less, low cholesterol diet thing hasn't worked for me. A friend told me that even though her husband didn't eat any cholesterol and his doctor put him on high-powered anti-cholesterol meds, his cholesterol still remained too high and he died.
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I forgot to say I uesed to drink lots of caffeine too, about 6 years ago and more.  When my cholesterol was a lot higher.  And possibly quitting that has helped bring it down.  As I have a lot of explorer traits and maybe it was also gumming up my liver.  

I don't know what the actual reasons are, I just know I'm eating more red meat now.  I have eaten more beef this last year than I have in years.  But we do buy grass fed beef.  And beef is only a neutral on my swami.  But it's the red meat I eat most of.  Lamb is better for me and I love it, but it's harder to get and much more expensive.  

I guess I'd be looking at how to detox your liver D.L.  But that's just a thought.  I have really no clue what will help you.  I think it's different for all of us.  

But one thing is certain, I am very thankful that BTD got updated in to GTD/SWAMI, because I believe my immune system is stronger eating red meat.  And if I was following BTD, I wouldn't eat it nearly as much as I do.  And I wouldn't eat beef at all because BTD says it's an avoid for AB's.  And every once in a while we get a thread on here how Red meat is really BAD for A's and AB's, and I don't think it's the case for ALL parties.  Even some A's.  Probably the A's that are more explorer like I would imagine.  And I'm sure they are in the minority.  Maybe I'm in the minority for AB's too.  I don't know.  But I get quite a few choices for red meats on my swami, in the superfood and neutral category.  


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Maybe I'm in the minority for AB's too.  But I get quite a few choices for red meats on my swami, in the superfood and neutral category.  

I think you tend to follow more Type B than Type A, where my food lists are definitely more A-like...  I get Beef and Calf liver, goat, lamb, mutton and rabbit for superfood and no neutral red meats.  Beef is a black dot, so I can eat it, but tend to stay away from even the black dots - at least until most of my healing is done.

SWAMI gives me 4 servings of red meat per week, and I definitely need to eat it.  Last week, I was starting to crave red meat, but didn't want liver, so I got a lamb leg and must say, I needed it and felt better for eating it.


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My cholesterol had been dangerously high but I had to stop taking the statins the doctor prescribed because of inflamed liver. So I have been taking red yeast rice instead, and milk thistle to heal my liver.

Have you attempted to use a castor oil pack on your liver?  I have done it several times and it seems to help, even if you don't follow all of the steps for a complete "cleanse" as shown on page 252 of "The Genotype Diet" book.


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I think you tend to follow more Type B than Type A, where my food lists are definitely more A-like...  I get Beef and Calf liver, goat, lamb, mutton and rabbit for superfood and no neutral red meats.  Beef is a black dot, so I can eat it, but tend to stay away from even the black dots - at least until most of my healing is done.

SWAMI gives me 4 servings of red meat per week, and I definitely need to eat it.  Last week, I was starting to crave red meat, but didn't want liver, so I got a lamb leg and must say, I needed it and felt better for eating it.


Isn't lamb great?  I love those legs too.

I got all those you have as superfoods, plus Beef, Buffalo/bison, Veal, moose, and venison as neutrals.  Beef tongue, Caribou and kangaroo as black dots.  Although I've never had any of those black dots.  I wonder what elk would fall under?  Would that be considered venison?  It's strange to me that moose, caribou and deer are singled out, yet elk aren't.  Unless "venison" means deer or elk.  Hmmmmm....

Mine is 4x a week also.  Unless I do the "more frequency" package.  Then it goes to 5x.  Which is also a bit odd, because not every category jumps up like that.  



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Good article EquiPro


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Easy E I also agree with your statement. I was wondering if, as an A and also Explorer like myself, whether you, Spring and D.L. are eating meat. Via Swami, I now have lamb, goat and mutton (as superfoods) added to my previous vegetarian diet and feel I'm doing better with these changes. Being an A and also an Explorer seems to be somewhat a contradiction in terms. What do you think?
    

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lamb, goat and mutton (as superfoods)


those are not considered red meat....enjoy


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Lola- lamb, goat, and mutton are all in the "red meat" category on SWAMI and GTD. Any meat from a mammal is considered "red meat."

Since Monika Linton's SWAMI gives her three kinds of red meat as beneficials, it's certainly fine for her to eat them, even though she's an A.

From what I understand, it's the people who didn't do well on BTD (especially A Explorers) that inspired Dr D to keep searching, which led him to develop GTD and then SWAMI.


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I would trust the swami as an explorer and eat the red meat.  Maybe just don't have huge amounts at one time.  I'm sure you'll figure it out.

I'm with ruthie on this one Lola.  If those aren't "red meat" what are they?  Pink?  hehehhehehe


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Red meat isn't bad for you. Fuzzy green meat is bad for you.


(I first saw that in somebody's sig line when I was on a low-carb forum, before I found BTD.)


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beef is and bison.....

bio molecular complexity, remember?


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Huh?  What about venison and Moose and caribou?  

I always wondered if pork is "technically" a red meat.  It's so light.  But as far as the lists go, those are all under "red meats", aren't they?


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Pork...the "other" white meat.


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