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JJR
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For me, they are a neutral on my swami.  And they're so ubiquitous.  And they also are good.  

I have started to add them in slowly in my diet and I don't think I've seen any backlash.  I have had my heart arrhythmia couple times this month.  But it was short, and I don't think it was the tomatoes.   Because each time it was several days away from when I had eaten them.  One time we had lost A/C for a couple of days and I think my body was a little more stressed from being hot than normal.  It was pretty warm in here during that time.  In the 80's.  

If someone thinks they might be linked to heart arrhythmia's I'm all ears.  But I think it was coincidence.  Now onions, that's almost like a surefire way to make it go.  And lots of caffeine or sugar.  

Anyways....  The second question I have about tomatoes is that, if they are OK, do I go for eating them cooked too?  Or using tomato paste?  I hear that this makes them more acidic and maybe not as good.  For me, some acidity in the stomach seems to help me digest foods.  And I like being hungry.  Fruits do this for me too.  I ate a salad with some tomatoes on it last night and it seemed to get the stomach juices going a little.  I'm not sure any more than some other foods, but I think it helps.  I realize it might make my whole system a little more acidic though.  

I guess just try a little.  I really haven't eaten them in any large quantities raw yet either.  I started with a bite a few times at a couple meals and then I got it in an omelette when I was out to eat 2 times.  And then last night too.  

Anyways, does anybody eat them, especially AB's and do you do make spaghetti sauce, etc etc.  I'm open to any and all comments in regards to them.

Thank you!!!!


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J., I eat them nearly every day. Sauces, salads...They're bennie for me, and I have no negative reaction to eating them whatsoever. A few of my relatives however (type A), find them absolutely repulsive. I suspect people have either very good, or very bad opinion of them.
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The whole tomato a superfood for me on my regular SWAMI, but if I reconfigure it to work on inflammation issues, only the tomato's juice appears, and as a "30 day washout" add-in later kind of avoid.

The more I look at this, more I think I was "ALMOST" an AB or B, and somehow missed the boat in the womb.

One of my mother's favorite recepies from Depression Era childhood was a recipie for tomato bread. Take your compliant bread, tear it up into pieces mix it with canned stewed tomatoes  and a compliant sweetener (just not molasses!) until it reaches an amalgamous, soggy whole, and turn into a greased pyrex. Bake in a moderate oven (350) for about 45 min or until crust is crispy brown.  MMMM MMMM GOOD!


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One of my mother's favorite recepies from Depression Era childhood was a recipie for tomato bread. Take your compliant bread, tear it up into pieces mix it with canned stewed tomatoes  and a compliant sweetener (just not molasses!) until it reaches an amalgamous, soggy whole, and turn into a greased pyrex. Bake in a moderate oven (350) for about 45 min or until crust is crispy brown.  MMMM MMMM GOOD!


Peasant food speaks to me. I always come back to it for comfort and grounding. Nothing quite so homey as homegrown tomatoes ripening on the kitchen windowsill...
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I've never liked them.     On the nonnie BTD, they were Neutral, but I still didn't like them.

My SWAMI tells me they are a Toxin for me.  (I already knew that, deep down)



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Tomato juice is GenoHarmonic for me... Never drink it though.
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Tomatoes seem to energize me and lessen the  fibro pain, but then they create joint pain I didn't have before (I suppose I'd have osteoarthritis by now if I wasn't on BTD.) They're officially an "avoid" on my SWAMI but I do eat them a few times a year anyway. When I eat them, it's usually in a baked pasta dish that the whole family shares. I don't eat them raw in salads- I buy the cherry or grape tomatoes so I can easily eat around them.


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Interesting.  Does anybody put them in the refrigerator?  I bought some and then the typebase says don't do it.  

I know my Mom does.  

I love love love, absolutely love, tomato soup.  And dip a toasted cheese sandwich in it.  I haven't had that forever, but it was something our high school used to serve.  The thing was, the toasted cheese were awful.  They were hard and crusty and tasted weird, but when you dipped it in the tomato soup, it didn't matter any more.  In fact, it was really good that way.  The combo of a bad cheese sandwich and the soup together was, well, just something to remember.  

I might have to experiment in making tomato soup.


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I buy tomatoes for my daughter, who has no problems with them. I generally keep them on the counter, as she says they're tastier that way. One of us does, however, move them to the fridge if they're starting to get over-ripe, so they don't actually spoil  before she can use them all up.

I also keep tomato paste on hand and make that into tomato sauce. Sometimes I get lazy and just mix it with water and dried spices, but usually I saute up onions, garlic, and hot peppers in olive oil, then combine the sauteed veggies with the tomato paste and water in the blender. When I make fresh sauce on pizza night, I make it nice. When we're out of ready-made sauce and other ready-made foods, and DD2 is hungry, I make it the quick way for pizza toast (leftover spelt bread, tomato sauce, mozzarella cheese).


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I had tomato soup last night for dinner.  When I was pregnant with my boys I craved tomato soup and tuna sandwiches together....I love tomato soup with toasted cheese sandwiches too.  Last night I crumbled some Mary's Gone Crackers (rice and seed crackers) and put them in the soup...so good.

I often take tomatoes and toss them into things I'm stir frying.  I have some small heirloom tomatoes that I'll probably cook with some veal scallopini and some baby spinach and fresh squeezed lemon tonight for dinner.

I often slice them thin and add to sandwiches I take to work on rice bread (tuna or chicken or turkey salad).
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I have been eating then on a salad every so often and when I do, I go, man that tastes really good.  

I think I want to move on to having them cooked.  Too.  I would love to find a good soup recipe.  Maybe I'll look in the database.

But you guys that eat them, looks like you eat them cooked also without any problems????  From what I can gather from the posts above it seems to be the case.


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I need help. I love tomatoes, ate them everyday of my life for 25 years, then my Warrior SWAMI says to avoid. HOW?!?!? If I know they don't hurt me, and I love them so, don't you think I could allow myself some??/ How come the Warrior above gets them and not me


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Are you talking about fresh organic tomatoes or unorganic tinned tomatoes?

They are both avoids for me on swami.

canned tomatoes are allegedly high in methanol and there fore a danger to all I would assume, although I don't know if one blood type is better at assimilating methanol than another group. perhaps Dr D has mentioned this somewhere in which case I would love a link to read about it. women are apparently more suitable to methanol in the diet though one chat thinks they are four times more sensitive.


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The Italian and French exception: Long, slow cooking with the lid ajar:
“What about canned tomatoes? How can I live without pasta sauce?” you ask with dismay.  
Before the introduction of diet soda twenty-five years ago, Italy had an  extremely low incidence of MS, even though Italians consume per capita more canned tomatoes than any other world population. The explanation for this is enlightening. Even though canned tomatoes have enough methanol to raise serious concern, you can make them safe by doing exactly what the Italians have been doing ever since Columbus introduced them to tomatoes from the New World---simmer the hell---or, in this case, the hellish methanol---out of the sauce. Italian mums typically empty cans of crushed and diced tomatoes in the saucepan early in the morning, simmering the sauce for at least three hours as it develops flavour and thickness. Hours of simmering with the cover slightly ajar leaves methanol, an alcohol  whose boiling point is much lower than water, undetectable in tomato sauce


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I need help. I love tomatoes, ate them everyday of my life for 25 years, then my Warrior SWAMI says to avoid. HOW?!?!? If I know they don't hurt me, and I love them so, don't you think I could allow myself some??/ How come the Warrior above gets them and not me


We're all different.  And just because you ate something all your life and loved them, doesn't mean it's the best thing for you.  You might feel better without them.  I'm assuming you have come to this diet for a reason.  Either better health or losing weight or gaining weight or something.  Therefore it may possibly be that your swami is correct and you may want to try avoiding them and see what happens.  There are other veggies you might really like and then not miss them at all!!!  I have many foods that I used to love that I don't eat any longer.  

On the other hand, it's a computer program, it isn't going to know your body like you do.  But since you've never not ate them, it might behoove you to see what your body does without them.  What have you got to lose?


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Thanks JJR ...my first response was "I guessssss buttttt". You're absolutely right. I've been without for a ltitle while now. Thought I've unwantedly/unneedingly gained weight (my body isn't used to carbs, even in whole grain/small amounts), I do feel better. Will continue without tomatoes...besides, it's the best time of year to try to go without


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  If someone thinks they might be linked to heart arrhythmia's I'm all ears.  But I think it was coincidence.  Now onions, that's almost like a surefire way to make it go.  And lots of caffeine or sugar.

Tomatoes are an avoid for me now, but when I have eaten them in the past my nervous system would go crazy for some reason. I can't overdo onions, either. The only thing I have noticed that causes me to have any arrhythmia is getting way too tired and/or very emotional. I hope you can enjoy tomatoes! I think it would be a great addition to your diet. Easy to prepare in so many ways!

Another thought, I wonder if Bach Aspen would help you. Might help you have more self confidence. I used it during a hectic time recently, and the results were absolutely amazing!! I'm not having to use it now, but I'm glad to have it around should I need it again sometime.


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Thanks JJR ...my first response was "I guessssss buttttt". You're absolutely right. I've been without for a ltitle while now. Thought I've unwantedly/unneedingly gained weight (my body isn't used to carbs, even in whole grain/small amounts), I do feel better. Will continue without tomatoes...besides, it's the best time of year to try to go without


I was hoping what I said wasn't too hard on you.  I am very "matter of fact" sometimes.  But I know a lot of people who wind up here are looking for changes.  I feel for you not being able to have tomatoes.  There are a few things I miss quite a bit too.  And I'm sure giving in once in a while won't hurt you.  Or, you might find out that it does.  But either way, I bet you have a lot of other good food that makes you feel good!!!  Growing up, I never was a big vegetable eater.  I would eat some, but never really liked them.  The safe ones.  Broccoli, cauliflower, potatoes, corn.  But then once I started following this diet I started eating things that I've never tried before and just loved them.  Brussel Sprouts, rutubagas, sweet potatoes (without a bunch of sugar and marshmallows on top), lettuce, and now tomatoes.  Parsnips, oh man, those are so good.  

I gave up a bunch of junk food, anything sweet.  I miss them, but I do so much better without them.  I was a little debbie common sewer though. Among other things.  I have added good quality dark chocolate in small amounts almost daily, but I think it's not too bad.  



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No tomatoes for me.


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Well, as much as I don't want to, I'm going to avoid them again for a while again.  My heart arrhythmia incidences have seem to gone up and it seems to have coincided with when I started eating tomatoes.  It could be a coincidence, but I'll find out after not eating them a while.  I'm not sure why tomatoes would have an effect on electrical impulses or the neurological system.  But it might be for me.  They are only neutral anyways.  I did enjoy them though.  Dang they're good.  But I won't be lost without them either.  


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