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Mickey
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I'm really stuggling to keep up my portion recommendations due to being on food stamps.  I was thinking maybe it would be better to focus on eating as many diamonds and superfoods rather then beat myself up because i can't afford to get all my portion recommendations in.

So i'm wondering if portion recommendations are more important than the type of foods i eat or is it ok to concentrate more on diamond/superfoods then keeping up with the portion guidelines?.

Thanks!
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What exactly are you struggling with? What portions are you struggling to get enough of, and what are your health goals?

If you're looking to lose weight, then it's very important to pay attention to portion sizes. If you're just looking to maximize your health, then you have a little more leeway.

I personally think that it's important to follow the basic portion recommendations about veggies/animal protein/ fruit/grains. I wouldn't eat more grains and less meat, for example. But I would (and do) eat more eggs and poultry, and less red meat, to stretch the grocery budget.

I don't shy away from eating neutrals, especially if they're in season and inexpensive. I'm eating more bennies now since my SWAMI changed, because now carrots and beets are beneficial instead of neutral. But I was eating them freely when they were neutral, because they're relatively inexpensive.

A lot of my diamond foods are rather expensive compared to neutral counterparts. There are dozens of diamond and beneficial fruits veggies I've never even tasted because they're hard to find, and ridiculously expensive when I do find them.


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Do the best you can with what you have available. If you find you need more to eat you may have to compromise on the diet.
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Ruthiegirl,
I'm generally just falling short at the end of my food month.  I'm trying to lose weight but have that figured into my swami, that resulted in an extra portion of fish and one less portion of fruit.  I eat alot of eggs since they are relatively inexpensive compared to other protein sources.  Since i'm trying to lose weight and going through alot of stress i thought maybe it would be better for me to focus on eating more diamonds (since they enhance weight loss) than worrying if i'm getting all my portions in, with superfood's being my secondary choice.  Like you i'm limited on my diamond choices since alot of them are expensive and inaccessible.  I do tend to stick to the same one's like spinach since i can get it at a good cost and i use alot of curry.  I don't tend to overdo my grains, but have a tendency to eat avoid one's.  I think where i fall short the most is with my live food's which equal 35 servings weekly, i tend to buy my protein's first since they sustain me the most.  I have started to buy more neutral live food's since alot of them are less expensive and have loosened the reigns on thinking i have to buy mostly organic, i mostly just buy the one's that are on the "dirty dozen" list organic.


Lloyd,
The longer i do swami the more i realize i can only do so much with my monthly food stamp money of $200.00.  It's getting increasingly harder to get all my food in since food price's have increased at the same time the portion sizes of food seem to be getting smaller.


Thank you both for your help!!!.  


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Are you eating much grain?  That's one thing most type O's can cut way down on, as far as portions.  You could get cheaper cuts of meat and some canned fish too.



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Since i'm trying to lose weight and going through alot of stress i thought maybe it would be better for me to focus on eating more diamonds


good thinking!


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I vote for the diamonds!!! Feeling good and generally healthy is more important than stressing about portions ... The body is asking for the extra calories, then make them glow and hard (diamonds    ) ... The weight loss will come, not as fast as if we were in control of the portions, but then again, it was not a speedy train that got us here either ...

That is somehow working for me ... although it may seem a slow downwards journey (weight wise) with a few unintentional stalls here and there and some loops at roundabouts (only regarding weight goals), by eating mostly diamonds, some neutral and no avoids, healthwise I am feeling stronger and healthier ... rushing to my destination is not on my checklists ...

It is a personal thing ... Make being 100% compliant with foods and portion your goal and pat yourself in the back when that happens ... keep your goals in mind ... if stray a bit, particularly regarding portion sizes, acknowledge it, move on and see if we can do better next time ... doing our best is what it counts ... This attitude helps keep stress hormones under control too ... and that is important for all of us ...




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Mickey if you have SWAMI, don't forget the genoharmonic foods to help with your health and weight loss goals.  
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Are you eating much grain?  That's one thing most type O's can cut way down on, as far as portions.  You could get cheaper cuts of meat and some canned fish too.

Victoria,
I'm not eating much grain, but am eating avoid one's so i've got to work on that.  I just bought a bunch of canned tuna from costco, got it at a really good price which makes me think they are discontinuing it!.


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Are you eating much grain?  That's one thing most type O's can cut way down on, as far as portions.  You could get cheaper cuts of meat and some canned fish too.

Cristina,
Thanks for reassuring me i'm on the right track.  In the situation i'm in i realize i can't produce miracles but i can do the best i can do!.


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Mickey if you have SWAMI, don't forget the genoharmonic foods to help with your health and weight loss goals

Dianne,
I have swami and i have checked the portion size guidelines for weight loss so that has been figured into my swami.  I don't see where to check for weight loss under genoharmonic foods?.  I checked "compute best", i think that takes your overall health into consideration?.


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Eating "avoid" foods can trigger cravings, which may end up making you spend even more money on food if you end up eating more. I would make that your next big priority. Don't worry about eating beneficials vs neutrals, but get those avoids out of your diet! Raw brown rice is pretty cheap; comparable in price to wheat pasta and breads. You may need to sacrifice variety, but I don't see why you can't completely cut out the avoids.

I'm still confused as to how you think eating more diamonds and ignoring portions will help you save money. In many cases, diamond foods are more expensive than other foods in the same category. If you cut back portions too much (buy less food-save money) then you'll be hungry. If you ignore portions by over-doing them, then you're buying more food and spending more money.

You may be able to cut back on meat portions without going hungry by stretching the meat in various meals. Adding beans to the dish means you can fill up on a smaller portion of meat- in dishes such as chili or soups, or serve beans as a side dish and have a smaller portion of meat. You can make meatballs or meatloaf by "diluting" ground meat with grated veggies and raw eggs. I like grated carrots and ginger (fresh or dried) in meatballs.


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Quoted from Lloyd
Do the best you can with what you have available. If you find you need more to eat you may have to compromise on the diet.


Hi Lloyd, I was wondering on my Swami that my portion size for Dairy:

Milk: 8 Ounces; Cheeses: 3-4 Ounces; Ghee and Butter tablespoon
Frequency: 6 servings weekly.

Cheeses seem too salty to me though. I don't know I can handle in 1 ounce or not. Do you have any advice ? should I mix with the rice ? I  can have Grains half cup; 1 muffin; 2 slices bread for 6 servings daily.

Butter I am sure I can find unsalty in the HFS.

Also, I concern about the Cheese and Ghee and Butter have high cholesterol. Is this okay for me since I already have high cholesterol which is 221

Thank you very much for your help in advance.  


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Our bodies make cholesterol if we don't eat enough. There has never been proof that eating a lot of cholesterol has any effect on blood cholesterol levels. Cholesterol in  blood seems to be more of a reaction to inflammation in the body, and inflammation comes from eating the wrong foods for our bodies. For O's, high carbohydrate diets lead to high cholesterol, while moderate meat, high veggie, low grain diets tend to lead to healthy cholesterol levels.

As an A, you do need to make sure you don't eat too much total fat or too much saturated fat, but if you follow SWAMI portion sizes, you won't be eating "too much."

Do you personally react badly to salt in the diet? Not everybody has a problem with it. If too much salt is a problem for you, then look for salt-free dairy products. I've never seen yogurt with added salt. I've seen some soft cheeses without added salt, often on the shelf next to salted varieties of the same thing. Just be certain to select dairy products from your neutral or beneficial list, and make sure there are no "avoid" additives listed in the ingredients.


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Hi Lloyd, I was wondering on my Swami that my portion size for Dairy:

Also, I concern about the Cheese and Ghee and Butter have high cholesterol. Is this okay for me since I already have high cholesterol which is 221

Thank you very much for your help in advance.  


Hi,

Do I remember correctly that your HDL is very high (over 100)? If you were an O then I would not have any concern at all. Since type A has a higher correlation of heart related issues than O, I'm not sure what advice I might give. The very high HDL is a big positive that allows for a higher level of safe total cholesterol in general.

You are allowed that many portions, it is a suggestion for total weekly servings of dairy. You could choose to get most or all of it from nonfat milk products such as yogurt or cottage cheese, as an example. Or have fewer total servings. Ghee has short chain fatty acids that are otherwise only available easily from coconut or by supplement.

Hope that helps. You will have to make your own decisions on that. I do like the taste of cheese in rice, but that is just me.  

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Our bodies make cholesterol if we don't eat enough. There has never been proof that eating a lot of cholesterol has any effect on blood cholesterol levels. Cholesterol in  blood seems to be more of a reaction to inflammation in the body, and inflammation comes from eating the wrong foods for our bodies. For O's, high carbohydrate diets lead to high cholesterol, while moderate meat, high veggie, low grain diets tend to lead to healthy cholesterol levels.

As an A, you do need to make sure you don't eat too much total fat or too much saturated fat, but if you follow SWAMI portion sizes, you won't be eating "too much."

Do you personally react badly to salt in the diet? Not everybody has a problem with it. If too much salt is a problem for you, then look for salt-free dairy products. I've never seen yogurt with  added  :salt. I've seen some soft cheeses without added salt, often on the shelf next to salted varieties of the same thing. Just be certain to select dairy products from your neutral or beneficial list, and make sure there are no "avoid" additives listed in the ingredients.


Hi ruthiegirl, thank you. I really don't know how our body work.    

No, I do not react badly to salt but I just don't like it because it makes me thirsty. In the past about my diet I never pay attention with the food so it was imbalanced. (oil, walnut, fish, egg, sodium, water) Now my body try to catch up.

I will follow my swami though but the problem is I can not eat all the portion size that recommended in 1 day because I get too full and when I work I get only 30 minutes for my dinner.  


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Hi,

Do I remember correctly that your HDL is very high (over 100)? If you were an O then I would not have any concern at all. Since type A has a higher correlation of heart related issues than O, I'm not sure what advice I might give. The very high HDL is a big positive that allows for a higher level of safe total cholesterol in general.

You are allowed that many portions, it is a suggestion for total weekly servings of dairy. You could choose to get most or all of it from nonfat milk products such as yogurt or cottage cheese, as an example. Or have fewer total servings. Ghee has short chain fatty acids that are otherwise only available easily from coconut or by supplement.

Hope that helps. You will have to make your own decisions on that. I do like the taste of cheese in rice, but that is just me.  


Hi Lloyd, thank you so much  

Yes, my HDL-Cholesterol is 116 and Non-HDL Cholesterol is 105

WOW WOW   Yesterday my first time in my life that I ate Manchego Cheese with Brown rice. I never eat that cheese before. The taste was so yummy. ( while I eat I still think about food combine, Is this okay for digest or not ? Ah..Worry worry that is just me)

Sometime I worry for not thing nah  


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I'm still confused as to how you think eating more diamonds and ignoring portions will help you save money. In many cases, diamond foods are more expensive than other foods in the same category. If you cut back portions too much (buy less food-save money) then you'll be hungry.

Ruthiegirl,
I usually only buy the less expensive diamonds and also use alot of superfoods.  I have more superfood choices and can find many that are inexpensive.  

I feel overwhelmed in my life right now and i don't want to be stressed about getting all my portions in, i already have enough stress in my life.  I have noticed that the better the quality of food and less carb's i eat the less hungry i am, i also think proteins are the most sustaining food for me.  I rarely have cravings, but do tend to stress eat at times.


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