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Are you sure that the trehalose you are getting is actually from mushrooms? That kind of trehalose is quite expensive.


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I am using Trehalose Complex from our Dadamo site via the NZ supplier



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it is doing what it is supposed to do

give it time
stay compliant

read up on autophagy.......that s what is happening inside you...cellular repair

http://metamodern.com/2010/07/24/autophagy-why-you-should-eat-yourself/


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Lola, are you saying that any conclusions I reach by elimination of food groups are irrelevant, and that I should just focus on seeing my condition as autophagy being facilitated by Trehalose?
(Because since yesterday the signs are that yeast products are causing my situation.)



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Hi Jenny, have you ever used 'edible' calcium montmorillonite clay? In addition to its long use as a gentle, safe means of helping eliminate environmental toxins from the body due to its absorption properties, its adsorption properties allow it to aid in removing gas from the GI tract.

Aside from clay's history of being used to help colitis, diarrhoea, piles and other intestinal issues, there is also some quite interesting research going on with clay showing how it could be intimately involved in the very creation of life on our planet (maybe it's more than merely an allegorical truth that we were fashioned from clay, after all):




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Here's what's happening to me re:flatulence.  I have gone 100% compliant in the last few days.  I am doing the washout in July/August with absolutely no cheating.  So far so good.  I have gone from lots of burping/belching to lots of flatulence.  It is strange.  This has never happened to me before.  I have eliminated wheat from my diet.  Increased flax.  Started adding lemon to my water.  Started taking a lot more Betaine HCL.  Various and sundry things.  

I'll go a day without beans (only a Tbsp of peanut butter from the vege pro list) and then suddenly in the evening here comes the flatulence.  I think it's a good thing actually.  I checked off a couple more things on my SWAMI (heart conditions, joint problems) and I like what I see now.  No wheat on my superfoods list for one thing.  I also have backed off on the amount of food that Dr. D has suggested.  It is just too much for my current lifestyle of simply taking walks for exercise.  Even if I adjust my exercise amount, he still suggests the same amount of food.  I don't understand that at all.
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Jenny I had definitely seen that information re mushrooms... as it made me cautious, since mushrooms are not on the explorer list... Might come up in a search


Commercially produced trehalose usually comes from starch, as far as I can find.
Some mushrooms contain high levels of trehalose, that's for sure; I don't know if they're the trehalose source in TC.
Maybe an email to the TC manufacturer could help?



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goggled it: in Wiki..

`````In plants, the presence of trehalose is seen in sunflower seeds, moonwort, Selaginella plants,[8] and sea algae. Within the fungi, it is prevalent in some mushrooms, such as shiitake (Lentinula edodes), maitake (Grifola fondosa), nameko (Pholiota nameko), and Judas's ear (Auricularia auricula-judae), which can contain 1% to 17% percent of trehalose in dry weight form (thus it is also referred to as mushroom sugar). Trehalose can also be found in such microorganisms as baker's yeast and wine yeast, and it is metabolized by a number of bacteria, including Streptococcus mutans, the common oral bacterium responsible for dental plaque.````

.... Actually half of that I did not wish to analize, to complicated for my lazy brain, but I got much out of reading other sights.. kind of fun.. seems it is protecting us from drying out, ergo the face looking less wrinkled? ha ..  and we might revitalize years after we died, if someone will just give us some water??? ha-ha

Go look around, it has many applications, like the Vit C of this millenia? ! just because they have figured out how to manufacture it.   it will be placed in all foods.. scary as well as exiting..  


Jenny.. it is always in the foods.. no doubt about that.. the K is my issue.. so not all is the same.. I for myself get tired of sups I would rather eat.. or eliminate.. until some other substance/info crawls out from under a rock..

You might look at this.. I just posted there..

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1341232043/s-0/#num7  



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I am definitely restricted when it comes to mushrooms, but I certainly haven't had any problems with Trehalose Complex. Here is part of the history of Trehalose!  
Trehalose was previously being manufactured through an extraction process from cultured yeast, but, since production costs were prohibitive, use was limited to only certain cosmetics and chemicals.
In 1994, Hayashibara, a saccharified starch maker in Okayama prefecture, Japan, discovered a method of inexpensively mass-producing trehalose from starch. The following year, Hayashibara started manufacturing trehalose by activating two enzymes, the glucosyltrehalose-producing enzyme that changes the reducing terminal of starch into a trehalose structure, and the trehalose free enzyme that detaches this trehalose structure. As a result, a high-purity trehalose from starch can be mass produced for a very low price.


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I think when we start having flatulence it is a good thing to make sure we are compliant and no unusual traumata going on. If those things are okay, the next thing is to look at detox etc.. I wonder how many hours most of us have spent trying to figure out the first two when it actually had to do with the last! Finally, after a lot of years of detoxing and reading ABJoe's many posts about it, I tend to start thinking about detox right off the bat!! Saves a whole lot of unnecessary hassle! A post-it on the fridge might help to remember - DETOX!!


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there is enough information in the past few days for me to go into deep research mode which is rather intimidating at the moment... and I can't believe that I really am detoxing at such a level now after 10 years of pretty good adherence to one or other of the Dadamo programs. My gut feeling (heh heh) is to continue watching my foods (and keeping daily records) to see if a pattern emerges.
Today my big food theory is peanut butter which I sometimes use in excess.  (see Adam above)



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Jenny, I have been on first one and then the other of Dr. D.'s diets for approaching thirteen years, and I still detox! Not severely, of course, but it happens! Anyway, I consider it rather interesting figuring out what is going on with my body. I hope you get your answer soon!!


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avoid the yeast

were you not all excited about marmite the other day?

the product has many additives, no?


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I didn't see anything about marmite, but it is definitely off my menu now.



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I am definitely restricted when it comes to mushrooms, but I certainly haven't had any problems with Trehalose Complex. Here is part of the history of Trehalose!  
Trehalose was previously being manufactured through an extraction process from cultured yeast, but, since production costs were prohibitive, use was limited to only certain cosmetics and chemicals.
In 1994, Hayashibara, a saccharified starch maker in Okayama prefecture, Japan, discovered a method of inexpensively mass-producing trehalose from starch. The following year, Hayashibara started manufacturing trehalose by activating two enzymes, the glucosyltrehalose-producing enzyme that changes the reducing terminal of starch into a trehalose structure, and the trehalose free enzyme that detaches this trehalose structure. As a result, a high-purity trehalose from starch can be mass produced for a very low price.


Do we know how our Dadamo Trehalose is manufactured?




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were you not all excited about marmite the other day?

the product has many additives, no?
Lola, has it? It is neutral in my SWAMI.   and I am excited about it...  



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Jenny, I have been on first one and then the other of Dr. D.'s diets for approaching thirteen years, and I still detox! Not severely, of course, but it happens! Anyway, I consider it rather interesting figuring out what is going on with my body. I hope you get your answer soon!!


Toxins enter us just by going out our front doors. We all breathe car fumes etc...so in this day and age, it is no wonder that we are in need of keeping on top of our cleanses. Also...peanuts are usually associated with mold issues. Apparently one can buy 'jungle peanuts' and they don't have the mold issue. You can google 'jungle peanuts', there are a few companies that sell them. We bought some but are not suppose to have peanuts.  
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Do we know how our Dadamo Trehalose is manufactured?

I'm sure it is the more recent method or there is no way under the sun we could afford it!!


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make your own without the additives if you can t find a clean source


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Make our own? How please?



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We needed this weeks ago in the TC thread, Conor!! Thanks for posting it!!


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make your own without the additives if you can t find a clean source


I've just realised that you may be talking about marmite/vegemite here, and not Trehalose?



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TC is on issue with flat.. yes! Time to figure out when to take it.. at night ? I have been able to sleep with it ..  so the evening might be on option..?  


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I am not surprised if you take Trehalose, at first it creates gas..

I made a post in the Magnesium thread, please read it. It might apply to you also.


I zipped through the Mag. entries, and am taking that advice to heart too....more pumpkin seeds and spinach coming up in my diet this week. Thanks Goldie




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