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Patty H |
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I have been contemplating my Hunter genotype lately and wondering if it is accurate. The reason I am wondering is that after having 23andme testing, my genes show that I am someone who does not clear toxins well. This is certainly confirmed by my toxic levels of lead and mercury along with a few other heavy metals. It also showed that I do not clear alcohol or most drugs well either.
Despite having changed data to incorporate my haplogroup and that I am coffee sensitive, my genotype continues to come up Hunter. I am sensitive to certain perfumes, but not all scents.
This is puzzling to me. Can my Hunter genotype be so strong as to override my inability to clear toxins? |
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Lloyd |
| Saturday, April 21, 2012, 7:09pm |
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You are a Hunter who has trouble clearing toxins.  |
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| Kibble |
| Saturday, April 21, 2012, 7:19pm |
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I haven't had all the testing you have but just on the genotype markers from the books I have a strong mix of hunter and explorer. I think the inflamation factor of hunters might override the toxin sensitivity of explorers since both diets are supposed to be organic and grass fed and would remove most toxins anyway. That's just me guessing though.  |
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| Saturday, April 21, 2012, 7:29pm |
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C_sharp |
| Saturday, April 21, 2012, 7:33pm |
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Patty: AS I recall your hunter status was determined by Dr. Nash using the SWAMI GenoType software. In this software the labels are unimportant and for the most part can be ignored.
Dr. Nash should have configured the software to meet your needs.
If a practitioner thinks that software incorrectly determined a person epigenetic superfamily (the software uses Epigenetic Superfamilies because that better describes how the categories are used in the software than GenoType does. ) The practitioner can override the epigenetic superfamily determined by the software if an explorer superfamily would better meet a clients need.
If I thought a client need different settings for detoxing, I would not change the epigenetic superfamily results, but instead change other settings, such as the Epigenetic Worldview.
If you do not think you are getting the right results with the SWAMI diet, talk to Dr. Nash and she can adjust the settings to emphasis detoxing if that is what you need. |
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Mark |
| Sunday, April 22, 2012, 12:12am |
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I have been contemplating my Hunter genotype lately and wondering if it is accurate. The reason I am wondering is that after having 23andme testing, my genes show that I am someone who does not clear toxins well. This is certainly confirmed by my toxic levels of lead and mercury along with a few other heavy metals. It also showed that I do not clear alcohol or most drugs well either.
Despite having changed data to incorporate my haplogroup and that I am coffee sensitive, my genotype continues to come up Hunter. I am sensitive to certain perfumes, but not all scents.
This is puzzling to me. Can my Hunter genotype be so strong as to override my inability to clear toxins?
I am the same. I have qualities of both. |
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Seraffa |
| Sunday, April 22, 2012, 3:57am |
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Patty: AS I recall your hunter status was determined by Dr. Nash using the SWAMI GenoType software. In this software the labels are unimportant and for the most part can be ignored.
Dr. Nash should have configured the software to meet your needs.
If a practitioner thinks that software incorrectly determined a person epigenetic superfamily (the software uses Epigenetic Superfamilies because that better describes how the categories are used in the software than GenoType does. ) The practitioner can override the epigenetic superfamily determined by the software if an explorer superfamily would better meet a clients need.
If I thought a client need different settings for detoxing, I would not change the epigenetic superfamily results, but instead change other settings, such as the Epigenetic Worldview.
If you do not think you are getting the right results with the SWAMI diet, talk to Dr. Nash and she can adjust the settings to emphasis detoxing if that is what you need.
Oh - you mean SWAMI does not run on autopilot, and still needs configuring by professionals? *eye-opener*  |
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C_sharp |
| Sunday, April 22, 2012, 4:49am |
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Oh - you mean SWAMI does not run on autopilot, and still needs configuring by professionals? *eye-opener*
There are two SWAMI versions: SWAMI Xpress where Dr. D. is the autopilot flipping the switches for you and SWAMI GenoType where you visit a practitioner who configures SWAMI and adjusts the settings in SWAMI GenoType to meet the needs of a particular client. |
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Dianne |
| Sunday, April 22, 2012, 12:10pm |
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I have been contemplating my Hunter genotype lately and wondering if it is accurate. The reason I am wondering is that after having 23andme testing, my genes show that I am someone who does not clear toxins well. This is certainly confirmed by my toxic levels of lead and mercury along with a few other heavy metals. It also showed that I do not clear alcohol or most drugs well either.
Despite having changed data to incorporate my haplogroup and that I am coffee sensitive, my genotype continues to come up Hunter. I am sensitive to certain perfumes, but not all scents.
This is puzzling to me. Can my Hunter genotype be so strong as to override my inability to clear toxins?
Patty - I am an Explorer and my husband a Hunter, there is not a lot of difference in our foods. He gets red meat 1X more than me & a little less grain. Compare for yourself by doing an Explorer Swami to see the difference. And also, choose detox for genoharmonics.  |
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Wholefoodie |
| Sunday, April 22, 2012, 2:40pm |
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I score pretty high as a Hunter, but am (very) caffeine sensitive, am bothered by perfumes and other smells that some people don't even pick up on, can feel tipsy from a glass of wine, and don't suspect I clear toxins all that well. |
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Patty H |
| Sunday, April 22, 2012, 5:25pm |
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Patty: AS I recall your hunter status was determined by Dr. Nash using the SWAMI GenoType software. In this software the labels are unimportant and for the most part can be ignored.
Dr. Nash should have configured the software to meet your needs.
If a practitioner thinks that software incorrectly determined a person epigenetic superfamily (the software uses Epigenetic Superfamilies because that better describes how the categories are used in the software than GenoType does. ) The practitioner can override the epigenetic superfamily determined by the software if an explorer superfamily would better meet a clients need.
If I thought a client need different settings for detoxing, I would not change the epigenetic superfamily results, but instead change other settings, such as the Epigenetic Worldview.
If you do not think you are getting the right results with the SWAMI diet, talk to Dr. Nash and she can adjust the settings to emphasis detoxing if that is what you need.
Hi C Sharp - the funny thing is, Dr. Nash was sure I would type as an Explorer because of my rare blood antigen and my unique fingerprint - a radial loop - on my left index finger. At the time of my visit, we did not know about my metals toxicity or my issues with methylation. |
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Patty H |
| Sunday, April 22, 2012, 5:29pm |
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Patty - I am an Explorer and my husband a Hunter, there is not a lot of difference in our foods. He gets red meat 1X more than me & a little less grain. Compare for yourself by doing an Explorer Swami to see the difference. And also, choose detox for genoharmonics. 
Hi Dianne, Good idea! Maybe it is time for another visit to Dr. Nash or at least a phone appointment. |
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Patty H |
| Sunday, April 22, 2012, 5:32pm |
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I score pretty high as a Hunter, but am (very) caffeine sensitive, am bothered by perfumes and other smells that some people don't even pick up on, can feel tipsy from a glass of wine, and don't suspect I clear toxins all that well.
I am not really sensitive to caffeine or wine, but I certainly can relate to the other things. I have a very strong sense of smell. Many perfumes don't bother me, but some I cannot tolerate at all. |
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| Sahara |
| Sunday, April 22, 2012, 8:52pm |
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I am not sure but I thought Explorers have a different torso to leg length ratio. If your waist is high and your legs are long you are a Hunter. |
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Patty H |
| Sunday, April 22, 2012, 11:26pm |
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I am not sure but I thought Explorers have a different torso to leg length ratio. If your waist is high and your legs are long you are a Hunter.
That makes sense, Sahara, but like I said, Dr. Nash did my measurements and she was sure I would be an explorer . . . puzzling . . . |
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ABJoe |
| Sunday, April 22, 2012, 11:31pm |
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I am not sure but I thought Explorers have a different torso to leg length ratio. If your waist is high and your legs are long you are a Hunter.
Finding Genotype per the book is different than SWAMI... The book uses only 3 parameters, while SWAMI incorporates all of the information entered... If the amount of information corresponding to 1 genotype outweighs another - even 1 of the three used in the book, SWAMI can switch you to the other... |
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Patty H |
| Monday, April 23, 2012, 2:28pm |
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Patty - I am an Explorer and my husband a Hunter, there is not a lot of difference in our foods. He gets red meat 1X more than me & a little less grain. Compare for yourself by doing an Explorer Swami to see the difference. And also, choose detox for genoharmonics. 
Dianne, aren't the meat choices really different for an Explorer? As I recall it was stuff like goat and mutton rather than beef, etc. |
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Maus |
| Tuesday, April 24, 2012, 1:02pm |
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I thought so, too that the meat choices are different between Hunter and Explorer. Are Explorers high in red meat? |
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| Sahara |
| Tuesday, April 24, 2012, 3:26pm |
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Wow to change genotypes, how exciting. |
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ABJoe |
| Tuesday, April 24, 2012, 4:20pm |
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aren't the meat choices really different for an Explorer? As I recall it was stuff like goat and mutton rather than beef, etc.
Per the book it changes some, but this doesn't mean that it would (or wouldn't) change significantly when a change occurs in SWAMIXpress... Remember that to change genotypes in the book, you may have to change 1 of 3 or 4 values. In SWAMIExpress, there are many more values affecting the results, so even though the Genotype family changes, the food lists may not change that much. |
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Easy E |
| Tuesday, April 24, 2012, 9:41pm |
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I thought so, too that the meat choices are different between Hunter and Explorer. Are Explorers high in red meat?
Not as essential as for hunters, but still helpful. Helps with anemia and gives explorers good energy. Beef is a diamond for hunters and neutral for explorers. Lamb is a diamond for explorers. Fat is not so much an issue for hunters, but is a big strain on explorer liver function. |
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Patty H |
| Tuesday, April 24, 2012, 11:34pm |
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Not as essential as for hunters, but still helpful. Helps with anemia and gives explorers good energy.
Beef is a diamond for hunters and neutral for explorers. Lamb is a diamond for explorers. Fat is not so much an issue for hunters, but is a big strain on explorer liver function.
Wow, Easy E, that's really interesting about the fat. I am an APO E4/3, which means I have a difficult time breaking down dietary fat. Can you give me some more info on explorers? |
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| Wednesday, April 25, 2012, 2:34am |
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Dianne, aren't the meat choices really different for an Explorer? As I recall it was stuff like goat and mutton rather than beef, etc.
My husband & I get the same types of meats (beef, goat, lamb, vennison), poulty (turkey, ostrich, chicken & more) & a few fish the same... The Explorer diet as per the GenoType Book is pretty darn grim. SWAMI takes into consideration all that ABJoe spoke of, as well it incorporates the BloodType and Geno Type diets. I'd be hard pressed to eat from the GTD book...that is unfortunate that of all the Geno Types in that book, the diet in it would discourage anyone from following it. Where on earth would you get quail eggs from!?  When SWAMI pronounce me an Explorer, I was in total shock and almost burst into tears,  . Then I thought, well let's take a look at the report and diet and it kept getting better and better. I was so relieved and it fits well with my husband, the Hunter which makes life easier. |
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Easy E |
| Wednesday, April 25, 2012, 5:34pm |
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Wow, Easy E, that's really interesting about the fat. I am an APO E4/3, which means I have a difficult time breaking down dietary fat.
Can you give me some more info on explorers?
Explorers can be slow with breaking down toxins, chemicals, and fats. I just remember from reading the GTD book that Hunters and Nomads tend to not have problems with breaking down fats, whereas Explorers and Gatherers should eat leaner meats, and the liver can be strained with too much fats to break down (esp explorer). If the liver is strained and overwhelmed, then allergies, and other things can set in easier. What is APO E4/3? Is it an enzyme thing? |
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The Explorer diet in the Genotype book is a massive compromise designed to be suitable for the great variety of Explorers. Explorers are inherently weird in a number of different ways, so sensible rules that cover most Explorers are difficult to say the least.
Explorers seem to have the exercise and protein requirements of Hunters, but because of the liver/anemia susceptibility need to maximise the diversity of protein sources. If I ever get to the point where my metabolism is great, I plan to experiment with strictly rotating protein sources to see what that does for the metabolism.
Type O Explorers can expect to be eating beef on a regular, but lower, frequency than Hunters, with no detriment. Remember this is not a practitioner recommendation - I am just an amature with an opinion. |
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