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I'm just saying that white rice is kind of high on the glycemic index and there are ways around it.  
If you eat enough, intermittent fasting isn't a problem.  It reduces insulin but won't make you thin so long as your calories remain high.

For you, this type of eating seems to work well...  I appreciate your input and compartmentalize it into the O Hunter space where it fits - at least for some of your type.

For JJ and I, we continue to eat like little pigs and struggle to keep the weight we have.  Our SWAMIs keep pushing us to eat hearty, including many carbs and we can't eat it all at one sitting.  We HAVE to eat multiple meals per day in order to keep the system even close to happy.

JJ, I don't have a favorite way to eat turkey, unless it is with a fork or spoon!   

I cook it with turkey / broth, maybe adding some veggies (onion early) or others later, depending on how done we want them...  

I make desserts out of it by cooking it plain and adding yogurt and fruit or a bit of honey and cinnamon...

I grind it and use it as a sauce thickener in place of some other starch because it is better for my Explorer DD than any other easily available starch...  

We even make peanut butter cookies with rice flour, peanut butter and a little sweetener (maybe some other ingredients)...


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Oh the irony (& unfairness) eh lol
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Yeah, I've been eating like you said, but I can't do it all in one sitting.  I am up to 220-2300 calories a day, give or take, and I still am only gaining about .5 pounds per week.  If that.  I'm up 10 pounds since November.  What is that almost 90 days for 10 pounds.  I'm thanking God for those 10 pounds, but I need at least another 10 and really 20 would probably put me more in the healthy range for me.  I could probably even get 30 and be still thin.  I'm 5'8".  124 is pretty darn skinny on me.  I am an ectomorph though.  

But anyways..  Yeah, gobble gobble.  I so have to try rice with some protein.  I've been so long not doing it I'm fearful of what might happen.  Although I did have a rice cake within a half hour of my egg one morning and it seemed ok.  Sometime I need to try an egg on top of a rice cake.  Eggs benedict.

One thing I need to learn how to do is make more sauces for my meals.  Incorporate that some.


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Oh the irony (& unfairness) eh lol

More like just the individuality...  We all have our needs - some of us "needs" more than others...


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No one really "needs" to eat multiple times a day, this is what the system programs people to believe.  But sure my genetics are special and help me to eat less frequently than most.
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O in V, my sister used to call White Castle hamburgers "belly bombers", so that brought back some funny memories.


Murder burgers is what a friend of mine used to call them.  We did eat those at around two in the morning on a few occasions.  DH saw a commercial on TV the other day, advertising White Castle now selling wine.  I thought that was funny.  As if we hadn't had enough at two in the morning!     But I guess not everyone is as awful as we were back then (a LONG time ago).  Maybe some people go to White Castle for dinner and order a glass of wine with their murder burgers.  
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No one really "needs" to eat multiple times a day, this is what the system programs people to believe.  But sure my genetics are special and help me to eat less frequently than most.
I am extremely grateful for your thoughts Sahara - I struggle to lose weight but with incorporating your ideas & "leptin restart", I have manged to lose nearly 5kgs (10lbs+) in the last (not quite) 2 weeks!!

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We even make peanut butter cookies with rice flour, peanut butter and a little sweetener (maybe some other ingredients)...


This sounds sooo good.  Except I think I would use Amaranth. I have always had a weakness for peanut butter cookies!! A peanut butter cookie and a piece of banana would make a luscious little dessert! I wish there were some kind of topping on the market that wasn't poisonous, because a shot of that would make it perfect.


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No one really "needs" to eat multiple times a day, this is what the system programs people to believe.  But sure my genetics are special and help me to eat less frequently than most.


That may be true and believe me, I'm not for doing what everyone else is doing just because they do it.  So I get your point, but I just don't think it applies to all of us when you say "no one needs to eat several times a day".  Again, you either trust Dr.D to a point or you don't.  He recommends frequent smaller meals for A's and AB's due to the fact that our stomach acids aren't as aggressive or in the same quantities of O's and B's.  Therefore, smaller meals might be necessary.  Furthermore, from my experience, if I'm not getting a certain amount of calories a day, I'm going backwards real quick.  No energy, losing weight faster than you can say Mississippi, and mental weakness.  Again, you keep lumping us all together and I guess you're just not going to get it.   From what I can tell, being duped by "the system" is a good thing for me.  Because I find Dr.D's advice pretty good.


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This sounds sooo good.  Except I think I would use Amaranth. I have always had a weakness for peanut butter cookies!! A peanut butter cookie and a piece of banana would make a luscious little dessert! I wish there were some kind of topping on the market that wasn't poisonous, because a shot of that would make it perfect.


I pulled out the cook right for your type book about a week ago and there is a recipe for a couple of different nut butter toppings.  I'll have to get them, but it was like taking some peanut butter and some honey and I think just water and mixing them all together for a sweet dressing.  It sounded really good and I have to try it.


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Another rice comment.  I just made some more white basmati tonight.  YUM!!  I mixed some carob powder, pecans, 1/3 teaspoon of honey, teaspoon of butter and some sea salt.  It was SO GOOD!!!  

Now here's the thing about the consistency.  The first night I made it, I followed the directions.  It said to use 1-1/2 cups to 1 cup of rice.  Well, all the brown rice I have calls for a 2:1 ration.  And I was like, hmmmmmm..  And in fact, the first night I felt like it was a little crunchy and added more water at the end and cooked it a little longer.  Well, the second time I made it I left it just under a 2:1 ratio and that was better.  Then tonight I just went the all out 2:1 ratio and I personally liked it so much more!!!  No chewiness or crunchiness and just nice ploppy, sticky rice.  Much more satisfying then some small grain that is dainty and doesn't stick to your ribs.  Hehhehehehe


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I've just come by this thread for the first time, and wish to add that a friend of mine whom I trust told me, that with Basmati rice in particular there is no difference in nutritional values between the white and the brown.

Basmati rice is the only superfood rice in my swami.


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That might be completely coincidental.  Or, it could've been the yummy venison and peas and lettuce I had for dinner.  Or the yummy peaches after that.  Or none of the above.

A dream dinner!!! Nothing coincidental, I'll bet!



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Now, back to loving rice.  

I have another question, I typically treat my rice like a dessert.  I put cinnamon or carob powder, some nuts and a little bit of honey.  I've been wanting to do more savory sometime, but I never seem to get around to it.  What is your favorite way to eat rice???


Rice pudding with compliant ingredients. I love savoury foods more than sweet ones so rice cooked in homemade broth with some sage in it and top it off with ghee is heavenly! Serve this alongside steamed onions, bok-choy and a few carrots and it's a meal fit for a queen or king!
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I love sweets, but they don't love me.  So I don't eat cookies, cake, ice cream.  Even ones I make myself if there is a good amount of honey or maple syrup or anything overly sweet, will make me feel pretty lousy after eating it.  Racing heart, weak voice, fatigue.  So, my rice and oatmeal are about the only "dessert" I get.  Which is why I probably just keep eating it that way.  And even that I use such little honey I can't even tell practically.  A few bites hear and there I'll taste it.  I use less than 1/2 teaspoon at this point.  I may increase that as I feel it's OK to.  I've said this a million times but I do eat a little bit of dark chocolate every 3 days or so.  But it's not much either.  One square.  Any more and again, heart racing etc etc.  So.....  

I love sweets, but they don't love me.  Waaaaahaaaaaaaaaa.  I've gotten used to really liking savory foods though.


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JJR, I kept thinking about the parsnips you enjoyed so much several days ago. So today I had pan-roasted parsnips (just lightly), lightly stir-fried bok choy  and a turkey burger. Wow! It was so delicious! The parsnips and bok choy were absolutely perfect together!! My mouth is still singing! I only used sea salt to season everything, and it couldn't possibly have tasted any better! Thanks for reminding me about parsnips!


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They're awesome.  Glad you are enjoying them also.  I have to put them on the shopping list.  Thanks for reminding me!!!!


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My favorite way to eat rice, brown, white, or green (huh?), is with ghee, sea salt, garlic powder, and nutritional yeast. Yum!


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Sounds good!

I don't know what it is, but lately I've just been super hungry all day.  I'll eat well and the only time I "FEEL" satisfied is after I eat my grain meal.  I know some of you might say it's yeast, calling out for sugars.  But I don't think it's that.  I suppose it could be partly that, but I'm not eating any more than my swami recommends.  I have a feeling it's got more to do with needing the calories and gaining weight.  

I take it back, I feel satisfied if I eat a big ole helping of potatoes, sweet potatoes, parsnips or some kind of squash with my meals.  I need the types of food that "sticks to your ribs".  It used to be if I ate a salad at panera, I'd be stuffed.  Now, I eat the whole salad and I'm like, I could eat another one.  I don't do dressings and croutons on them and I eat the potato chips they give you.  But their portion of lettuce is pretty generous.  It used to stuff me.  Well, now I'm like, where's the beef?  I really think I need to start trying some grains with my meals.  Even if it's just a little.  At least at the meals I'm not having some kind of heavy vegetable.  

Like today I was famished all day.  I even ate 3 oz of lamb for dinner with 14 brussel sprouts and a red potato.  And I was hungry within 1-1/2 of eating that.  Which I'm thanking God for.  Because for so long I wasn't.  But my point is I just finished my big bowl of oatmeal, and I'm like, aaaaaaah, now I can rest.

Anyways, enough complaining about that.  I love my rice and oatmeal.  I have to try a new kind soon.  I have some long grain white I'm going to try next.  And I haven't had steel cut oats in a long time, so I have to cook some of those up.  I had just regular oats tonight.  But this thread is about rice.

What is everybodies favorite brand of rice?


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Basmati here, all the time!


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I don't know what it is, but lately I've just been super hungry all day.  I'll eat well and the only time I "FEEL" satisfied is after I eat my grain meal.

I think you need more carbs earlier in the day...  It may be some starchy vegetable or some grain, but it just sounds like if that is what is satisfying you, bring some into your earlier meal, rather than beings hungry all day...


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I know I probably sound like a broken record.  I need to just try it.  I had a rice cake ONE time after breakfast so far.  And it seemed fine.  But those don't really do much.  

I have noticed someething about the white rice.  I think it has slowed my digestion down.  Since I've been eating it I'm not QUITE as regular.  Although I don't necessarily want to blame the white rice right away.  I haven't had figs and kiwi in the amounts that I usually do and that could be having an impact too.  I just had both this morning though.  And the kiwi was so good.  Mmmmmm....  But, I did seem to notice that after I made brown rice the last time.  Which was about mid week last week, I think it cleaned me out the next day.  So, it's possible that the fiber in the brown rice might keep things moving better, whereas white rice might not as well.  I'm not freaking, but it's just something to make a mental note of.  But when my morning constitution routine is upset, I get a little concerned.  And that happened two times now.  


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...when my morning constitution routine is upset, I get a little concerned.  And that happened two times now.  
I fully understand this & I don't see you as a broken record - just someone trying to search for answers - as most of us are I understand exactly how you feel Only thing is if you are trying to gain weight, maybe you don't want your food to move through at such a pace? I read something recently re how the human body needed to actually slow the digestion process down, in order to absorb nutrients better?!
Reminded me of my FatherinLaw's situation & how he was always so frail & wiry - Having had diveruticulitus he was afraid of a repeat episode & took a metamucil very regularly & often suffered from diarrhea at the same time...In his 80's he is now unable to re cover from infections & has had his leg amputated as a result Not sure if any of this is related
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Well thankfully, I haven't had that issue in a while.  But you make a good point.  For me it's probably more mental than anything.  But they also say you want to go regularly if you don't want the toxins to build up in your system.  So....  I'm not sure where the perfect balance is.  I usually go once a day.  Sometimes a little more.  And not usually less.  I did go yesterday in the afternoon.  And then I went like I normally do this morning.  I'm pretty sure it was the white rice, but then again, it might not be.  I did two things differently.  I usually eat some dried fruit with some nut butter right before bed.  I sometimes put it in canned pumpkin or butternut squash.  And that morning I didn't go, the night before I was so tired, I skipped that last meal of dried fruit.  And I know figs can keep things moving too.  So......  Who knows.  Either way it didn't come grinding to a halt, so I probably shouldn't worry about it. And keep enjoying my white rice in the rotation.  Plus, if I keep eating it, I'll see if there is patterns.  I've had oatmeal the last two nights, and that doesn't seem to stop me up.  And then I'm going to make brown rice tonight, Lord willing.  

Cheese seems to do the same thing in me also and I've avoided it for months now.  I'm debating on if and when I should add it back in.  But it has a tenancy to really stop me up.  Donna gates claims you should be going 3 times a day.  Or after every meal.  I'm kind of like, if I went after every meal, there is no way I'd get out of the house.  I spend so much time cooking, eating and doing dishes, if I added going on the potty that much, I might as well lock the front doors.  hehehhehe


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Last night I prepared brown rice in a new way:

I put the raw rice in the pan, added olive oil, sea salt,, onion powder, a dash of garlic powder, and then some dill. I stirred this all together. Then I added hot water (2.5 cups per cup of rice so it's nice and mushy) and then it just looked like it was missing something, so I added a handful of frozen peas.

It was absolutely delicious! I'll definitely do that again! But only on a day when I'm making plain white rice or potatoes for DS, because he won't eat rice with "things" in it.   Last night I also made another pan of rice (1 cup white rice, 2 cups water, nothing else added.)

I use the store brand non-organic rice because that's the cheapest, and I need to cut my food budget somewhere. I just can't justify spending extra money on "fancy" rices when the taste differences are subtle, and I can get creative with spices and whatnot in the kitchen. If money wasn't so tight, I'd have a variety of different kinds of rices in my pantry, along with other compliant grains and compliant pastas.


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