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long time.  I was concerned about it being too High Glycemic.  I have yet to figure that out.  But, I will tell you this, when I woke up this morning, I had a bunch of energy.  Moreso than other days.  That might be completely coincidental.  Or, it could've been the yummy venison and peas and lettuce I had for dinner.  Or the yummy peaches after that.  Or none of the above.

But they good thing is it seemed to not hurt me.  I will say this, it wasn't as filling as brown rice of the same amount.  I would've had to eat more to get the same filling.  And maybe I will next time.  But it still was "fulfilling".  Meaning I wasn't hungry right away.  It tasted good too.  It was white basmati from Lundbergs.  I buy a lot of their rice.  It seems like it's good quality.  I have some other long grain white I'll try some other time too.  Just some run of the mill organic stuff.  Nature's promise.  

What's my point?  I don't know.  I like sharing my experiences.  Some of the healthy people will say white isn't as good for you.  My chiro told me this.  My swami says it's a diamond.  And then my sister's son's autism doctor says white digests easier.  

What's the truth?  I don't know.  But it seemed OK for me.  At least from the first blush.  

How does it do for you all?  Thank you for listening.


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SWAMI is smarter than chiropractors and your chiro probably isn't thinking about your SWAMI
and probably doesn't know about the GTD....Glad a diamond food gave you energy, JJR...The glycemic index isn't discussed in the GTD book, so I never thought about diamonds being bad for anyone nor would I override my SWAMI with information Dr. D wasn't using..--- It's portions for each food group that matters most!  If white rice was truly bad for everyone, Asians would have never survived the human race.

I guess your point is that you benefitted from eating a diamond food. That's the experience we
all should be having.


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Quoted from JJR

Some of the healthy people will say white isn't as good for you.  My chiro told me this.  My swami says it's a diamond.  And then my sister's son's autism doctor says white digests easier.  

What's the truth?  I don't know.  But it seemed OK for me.  At least from the first blush.  

How does it do for you all?  


The healthy people are right.
What does the SWAMI say about brown rice? If only white is a diamond, I'd eat that (because I trust SWAMI) but stick strictly to the lower end of the portion side, because the healthy people are right
Your sister's son's autism doctor is right if you define 'easy' as 'faster and hence less work for the body'. If you have no digestive or stomach issues I'd choose the brown over the white if it is rated the same in SWAMI.

White also seems ok for me (but I do eat very little and only sometimes), but I know it's not as good for me.
White basmati is the Queen of all the rices, maybe that is why you felt so good!

Just for the fun of it, try this (it worked for me): Assuming you'll want to cook 1 cup of rice (dry)...take 1/3 cup of brown basmati and boil up with 2 and 1/2 cups of water (enough water for 1 cup of rice), let simmer on really really low heat, After 10 min add 2/3 cup of white basmati and let simmer until all the water has been absorbed.

The idea is to have a 1/3 to 2/3 mix of rice, both cooked to perfection.  And because the brown takes longer, you start cooking it first. That way you have enough of the niceness of the white with some (which is better than nothing) goodness of the brown!  
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JJ,

I think the operative phrase in what you wrote is: "good for you"...  Most advice is stated as one size fits all, so is to be taken with a grain of salt.  I understand the logic behind "Brown rice is better - as it is more whole, has the fiber and nutrients that are stripped away to make the white rice, etc...

Whether that is good for you depends on many things, though.  One of which is, "How much digestive energy do you have?".  It is possible that right now, it is more important for you to have a very good source of beneficial carbohydrates that are more easily accessible than having to digest the brown rice...  As long as the white rice is a diamond food, I'd have no hesitation in eating it.

I'm glad you felt better this morning.


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Well, I've eaten plenty of brown rice over the last, well, long time and I can tell it's good for me also.  And some mornings I wake up with a good amount of energy after eating oats or rice or whatever.  I was just more or less noticing that it did seem to be fine.  And yeah, in fact it may have even been good to the point that it gave me some energy in a source my body liked and has not gotten in the recent past.  Whether it was "better" than brown, I know not.  My plan is to incorporate white on my rotation of grains.  I've been eating brown rices and basmati's and then oatmeal every day.  You know, going back between the two.  So, I'll throw white in there on a regular basis and see how it does.  I'm just glad it didn't make me feel awful.  I do think it's possible it gave me some more useable energy quicker than the brown.  But I also know there are nutrients in brown that aren't in white.  

It's more about having more choices of good foods for me.  I had gotten to the point where I avoided so many things thinking they mess with me.   White rice really wasn't one of them, but I had gotten in the habit of sticking with brown.  And maybe I bought into the "brown is better" mantra.  And maybe it is.  But for me, maybe it isn't.  I agree with Joe, it's all individuality.

And yeah, Brown is a diamond also.  But white is a diamond.  So, it leads me to believe that there is no reason why I should always choose brown over white.  What's nice is white cooks up quicker and if I'm on some kind of time constraint, white will be another quicker option, other than oats.  Also, the white basmati I have actually has more calories than the short grain and long grain brown I get.  Which for me is good.  I probably could've eaten more and gotten more calories last night, but I didn't want to overdue it the first time I ate it.   But I ate 1/2 cup dry.  It wasn't as filling as when I eat a 1/2 cup dry of brown.  


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My father, an O+ hunter, has serious digestion problems. He is not 100% compliant but finds that sweet rice (glutinous rice) digests even better than white rice. He can't do brown rice at all because it is so tough on his stomach. Glutinous rice (aka mochiko) is available at most American chain grocery stores. It has a gummy texture and quite flavorless. You can bake breads and dessert squares with them. I am going to see if I can mix it up with an egg and make a crepe/wrap for my sandwich.

I wish you well on getting to know your rice better! I prefer brown rice because I never liked the taste of "boring, plain, white rice" (which is how it is typically served in Asian households). . My "White" friends taught me how to pour salad dressing over my plain rice. These days, lemon juice and olive oil with a bit of salt on white rice is good. Brown rice, I can eat it plain... I stayed away from white rice because of the glycemic index... esp. when I was trying to keep the candida under control.


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Perhaps you could try soaking the white rice to aid digestion even more. This might also be a strategy you could consider for brown rice too.


rinse to infinity and beyond;) then soak in cool filtered water for 24 hours or more, changing the water every 8- 12 hours.

then either just use it as you normally would or let in germinate by draining it and leaving for further sets of 8-12 hours rinsing thoroughly in between to ensure no mould.


results shorter cooking times, easier digestion and much more nutrients into the bargain.
works a treat for M.


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My father, an O+ hunter, has serious digestion problems. He is not 100% compliant but finds that sweet rice (glutinous rice) digests even better than white rice. He can't do brown rice at all because it is so tough on his stomach.
Would that be sushi rice? Apparently it is low oxalate which could be why it digests better  JJR the low oxalate factor is also why autistics do better on it too...

I grew upon brown rice & just love the taste (one of my fave desserts/breakfsts - hec any meal, could easily be brown rice with a knob of butter) but I find with any rice I gain...but haven't tried sushi rice yet...

Good tip PC about the rinsing & soaking...
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That's great that you felt good the next morning and that tells a lot!  

I think white basmati is an awesome food.  As a person with a delicate digestion, I do much better with white basmati than any kind of brown rice, even if brown contains more nutrients.  I don't eat rice often anymore, but if and when I do, I rinse it very well in a strainer under cold running water.

Someone shared on the forum once upon a time that basmati is a slightly different grain than 'regular' rice and is easier on the blood sugar.  Anyone remember what that was about?



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I get white rice as a diamond and eat it a couple of times per week, ,more if my tummy feels delicate. Great with a ton of steamed veggies and ghee. Does not affect my blood sugar at all if eaten as per my SWAMI recommendations.
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I haven't read through all these posts but I would like to add that the fiber in brown rice may inhibit some absorption of minerals, whereas white rice will not do this.  I love to make risotto, and find that the little bit of fiber in arborio rice still makes things "move" for me.  White rice is also a diamond for me.  My gut seems sensitive to many fibrous grains, like quinoa, which I love, but white rice seems more soothing and filling in a good way.  I dont bloat up from it at all after eating it.  Now quinoa for me is a superfood, but not a diamond as is white rice.  I am glad it made you feel good!
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I eat white rice every meal.


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White rice is a diamond for me, too, and I was shocked to see that. But there is no doubt in my mind that Dr. D. is onto something here. I have not eaten any in a long time, but I might feel better than I do eating brown rice. For some reason I just don't love brown rice like I used to even though I have eaten a LOT of it in my lifetime. I might not enjoy white rice any better, but I might try it simply to see... Basmati is the best of them to me too.


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Policy Checker, I used to soak all of my grains. And nuts too.  For over 2 years I did this.  I'm taking a break from doing it.  I understand it's supposed to be better.  But this year really gave me a catalyst for change in how lousy I was feeling.  And even though it goes against what SHOULD be, I stopped doing it to see if it is really making any difference.  At this point it's hard for me to know.  Because ever since I stopped soaking and eating fermented foods, I've gotten better.  Now, I think it has to do more with my body being in a building mode and is just taking a break from killing things.  I'd gotten so light, and so weak, I think I need this.  And I think soaking has a tenancy to introduce bacteria, albeit good bacteria hopefully, that was overwhelming my detox system from killing bad stuff.  I had eaten quinoa for a long time, and then I just couldn't do it any longer. It made me feel awful.  I hadn't tried quinoa yet lately without soaking.  

This much I know, my stomach is working better now than it has in years.  But I think it's because I DID do the soaking and fermented foods and lots of killing for the couple of years that I did.  

As far as the white rice goes, I actually had no idea that it might actually be better.  Or that it could make my body react better.  But it does make sense that it would be easier to digest.  For what it's worth, long grain brown seems to go down real easy too.  But that's in the upper GI.  I really don't know what these things do in the lower GI, other than the fact that I've been regular lately and all that has been fine. But long grain brown seems to invoke some kind of hungriness a lot quicker than when I eat any other grain.  Short grain brown is more heavy.  But has been going down well too as of lately.  I also had this Texmati and the last time I ate it, I couldn't believe how strong of a flavor it had and it was like nothing else.  It kind of weirded me out because I wasn't sure if I did something wrong with it.  It had such a bold flavor.  It was much different than the basmati I've had in the past.  Either that or my tastebuds were just strange that night.  Which can happen too.

Marc, what's your favorite kind of white rice?  And are you serious?  Every meal?  


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Glutinous or sweet rice is sticky white rice. It is commonly seen as mango rice dessert at Thai restaurants. Koreans make a crepeish pancakeish thing with it. They fill it with red bean and other stuff. I prefer green tea butter cream or chocolate. Or, I just like it plain with a tiny bit of agave. If I do not want it sweetened, I prefer to have a bit of sea salt on it.

It has a gummy, chewy consistency. You can buy plain ones at Whole Foods known as "mochi wrappers". I prefer to make my own dough with sweet rice flour (mochiko), sea salt, and water.

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Would that be sushi rice? Apparently it is low oxalate which could be why it digests better  JJR the low oxalate factor is also why autistics do better on it too...

I grew upon brown rice & just love the taste (one of my fave desserts/breakfsts - hec any meal, could easily be brown rice with a knob of butter) but I find with any rice I gain...but haven't tried sushi rice yet...

Good tip PC about the rinsing & soaking...




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Basmati rice is the lowest in glyx... .....I love it.....


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I like brown basmati too.  Isa, I mean Amazone, do you eat the white basmati?


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I only know about white basmati... brown rice here is so called*full-corn-rice and too heavy for me as being a nonnie...(can't stand it coz of too high glyx)..... ...meep-meep....

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I mostly eat white basmati rice and I do fine on it.  I don't eat it at every meal like Marc but fairly often.  I like it because it cooks in 20 minutes and it has a nice fluffy texture.  But now I want to explore sweet/sticky rice because PassionPrincess makes it sound so yummy.    

JJR, I'm interested in what you said about feeling that you had extra energy from eating white rice.  I have been wondering whether I should eat some rice on mornings I go to the gym.  Yesterday, I crashed half way through my cardio part of my workout.  I had eaten a good breakfast but maybe not enough starchy carbs to sustain a cardio workout.  I haven't worked out the right mix yet.  An egg/rice pancake or crepe with some fresh berries throwin in might be just the right mix.  

Any kind of rice is a diamond on my swami.  Cream of rice (like rice grits) hot cereal is not listed on my swami.  I bought some and have tried it a couple of times with a dab of ghee and some agave syrup, but it gives me indigestion later the same way oatmeal used to do.  Maybe it is not processed in a gluten-free environment.     That is the first time since btd/swami that rice has not agreed with me.
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I bought some of that Creamy Rice from Bob's red mill and I haven't tried it yet either.  But I'm looking forward to it.  But now you've got me SCARED!!!     Indigestion?  I don't get that with oats though.  In fact, I feel like I've come home when I eat oats.  They are like, aaaaaaaaaahhhhh for me.  Calming.  But as far as the energy goes.  In my swami, the grain portion talks about it giving you energy.  And I have noticed the times I tried to not eat any grains, I had no energy.  I'm thankful I can eat some.  


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I noticed sushi rice in the supermarket tonight - it has quite round & fat grains... SO wanted to buy some to try but am still unsure if it is the sticky rice mentioned earlier
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not sure if i've missd something , but sushi rice is very stiky -


anyway a link for you http://www.justhungry.com/2003/11/japanese_basics_1.html


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I'm amazed at how many different types of rice there are!


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  Indigestion?  I don't get that with oats though.  In fact, I feel like I've come home when I eat oats.  They are like, aaaaaaaaaahhhhh for me.  Calming.  But as far as the energy goes.  In my swami, the grain portion talks about it giving you energy.  And I have noticed the times I tried to not eat any grains, I had no energy.  I'm thankful I can eat some.  


JJR - I'm with you on the oats and grains in general. No energy without a bit. As an Explorer I get 1 1/2 cups daily. Don't always have that much but I need at least one cup daily.

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Cream of rice (like rice grits) hot cereal is not listed on my swami.  I bought some and have tried it a couple of times with a dab of ghee and some agave syrup, but it gives me indigestion later the same way oatmeal used to do.  Maybe it is not processed in a gluten-free environment.     That is the first time since btd/swami that rice has not agreed with me.


Try it without the agave.  



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