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MaggieMellaine
Saturday, February 18, 2012, 8:31pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Hello all,
I was diagnosed with Celiac Disease a couple years ago and have been following the Genotype Explorer diet for around 3 years (Gluten-free for the past two). I have always felt pretty good on the Explorer diet, especially after going gluten-free, but I'm thinking of giving SWAMI a try to see if it suits me even better than the Genotype Diet does.

Does SWAMI take Celiac Disease into account or do I just need to ignore any recommended foods that contain gluten? I am afraid to eat anything with gluten even if recommended.
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Hello all,
I was diagnosed with Celiac Disease a couple years ago and have been following the Genotype Explorer diet for around 3 years (Gluten-free for the past two). I have always felt pretty good on the Explorer diet, especially after going gluten-free, but I'm thinking of giving SWAMI a try to see if it suits me even better than the Genotype Diet does.

Does SWAMI take Celiac Disease into account or do I just need to ignore any recommended foods that contain gluten? I am afraid to eat anything with gluten even if recommended.


If you have true celiac disease then don't ever eat anything with gluten in it, ever ever. It is not like a sensitivity where you can become more tolerant in the same way.

SWAMI will give you a more refined list, but just because it diamonds spelt or something, don't eat it. And yes it does not account for celiac disease, you have to monitor that yourself.
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There are two versions of SWAMI: SWAMI GenoType and SWAMI Xpress


With SWAMI GenoType there is greater control on what foods are restricted in a diet.
If you have Celiac, then you should probably see a practitioner so that the Practitioner can make the appropriate settings for your health condition.


SWAMI Xpress is a product designed for general use and some of the switches used by practitioners has been eliminated.

With  SWAMI Xpress there is not a setting to fully eliminate Gluten, but there are settings that reduce the amount of gluten in the diet. If you choose to use SWAMI Xpress check:

Hx of bowel or digestive disease
White Lines, Left Fingers
White Lines, Right Fingers

To reduce the amount of gluten containing foods recommended.


If you have have celiac you should not eat gluten regardless of who or what recommends it.


MIfHI                            I follow a SWAMI diet.
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I cannot eat gluten so I stay away from it, no matter what my food lists say in Swami. Same with my other allergies. I am 51% Explorer but I cannot tolerate some of the things on the Explorer beneficial and neutral lists.
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On pro version printout I have, Dr. D set it for low gluten. It moved the food values, but I just use my brain to filter out what is a superavoid.

SWAMI is great.  


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i think many of us on the swami are either celiac, or intolerant of gluten, dairy etc., and as others have said I just avoid the foods that don't work for me.  
good luck, Lin


Gluten/Casein and Yeast sensitivity.
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Quoted from C_Sharp
There are two versions of SWAMI: SWAMI GenoType and SWAMI Xpress

With SWAMI GenoType there is greater control on what foods are restricted in a diet.
If you have Celiac, then you should probably see a practitioner so that the Practitioner can make the appropriate settings for your health condition.

SWAMI Xpress is a product designed for general use and some of the switches used by practitioners has been eliminated.

With  SWAMI Xpress there is not a setting to fully eliminate Gluten, but there are settings that reduce the amount of gluten in the diet. If you choose to use SWAMI Xpress check:

Hx of bowel or digestive disease
White Lines, Left Fingers
White Lines, Right Fingers


To reduce the amount of gluten containing foods recommended.
If you have have celiac you should not eat gluten regardless of who or what recommends it.


Can you explain what it means?
I have been wondering why my left hand breaks out in a red rash when I eat wheat but rarely do I get it on my right.
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I have been wondering why my left hand breaks out in a red rash when I eat wheat but rarely do I get it on my right.



Probably you have something else stressing the left side of your body.

Perhaps you wear a ring or bracelet on that side. But lots of other factors would influence as well.






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Could a wedding ring cause winter eczema (not sure if it's more atopic or psoriasis like, maybe the latter) or just hand washing habits combined with cold weather? I have the 3rd winter sequentially that my left hand (back, not palm?) is in certain points a little red, dry and has a little dandruff. And about 2,5 years without gluten grains (except traces). And yet my fingerprints seem as bad as when I was quite new in this diet. But I have to admit I haven't been too tight in avoiding absolutely all avoids.


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I am also Celiac and using Swami Express, all Gluten should be avoided even is swami says barley or wheat is ok, you should still avoid.

I have found giving up nightshades and most daily has helped with my gut issues.  its funny they majority of foods on my avoid lists are foods I don't tolerate well. Which is why the BTD appeals so much to me.

Good luck


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Can you explain what it means?
I have been wondering why my left hand breaks out in a red rash when I eat wheat but rarely do I get it on my right.


Two sides of your colon---



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Green Root, You may have other allergens or sensitivities.

Wedding ring-- perhaps the metal is irritating you.


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Could a wedding ring cause winter eczema (not sure if it's more atopic or psoriasis like, maybe the latter) or just hand washing habits combined with cold weather? I have the 3rd winter sequentially that my left hand (back, not palm?) is in certain points a little red, dry and has a little dandruff. And about 2,5 years without gluten grains (except traces). And yet my fingerprints seem as bad as when I was quite new in this diet. But I have to admit I haven't been too tight in avoiding absolutely all avoids.

It sounds like a combination of a number of things...  
It is possible that you have a sensitivity to something external in contact with one side.  
It is also possible that those avoids that you aren't too tight on are affecting the left side more than the right.
It is also possible that you use the left hand either more or less, so it gets more exposure or less blood flow - whichever is appropriate...
It is possible that you had an injury to the left shoulder/arm/hand that is stressing the left a bit more than the right...
This is but a few of the many possibilities to consider to determine what the real issue(s) is/are.


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There are only 4  gluten-containing foods in the world, 5 if you include oats, and maybe more if you include each variety of "heirloom wheat" separately. I don't think it's all that hard to "not eat" wheat, spelt, barley, or rye even if it appears on your "beneficial" or "neutral" list by mistake.  If you get oats as neutral or better, select the gluten-free variety- or skip it anyway if you're uncomfortable with the idea. There are always plenty of other grains to choose from.

I get rye as a black dot, and spelt, oats, wheat, and barley as outright avoids. I'm not averse to eating rye occasionally (a couple of times a year) but it's not something I can  consume regularly and still feel good. I'm not sure if I have celiac or not, but I certainly do better on a gluten-free diet.


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Ruthie, it's in so much more than just those foods.  Many factories that produce corn meal, or rice, might process wheat also.  For example, Bob's Red Mill has "Gluten Free Oats".  Now, they have regular old fashioned oats also.  But they process their regular oats in the same factory as they process some of their wheat products.  Rice too.  So, you might get some cross contamination.  Their "Gluten Free" oats have a separate processing facility and are grown where they won't cross contaminate somehow also.  Up in Canada.  I'm not celiac and I eat their regular oats also, but my point is it's not as easy as just staying away from those foods.  Yes, when looking at the lists, that's what you need to do.  But I think it is also wise to understand where your food is coming from.  

So I'm not disagreeing with you ruthie, I'm just bringing to light the complexity of the issue.  Which the OP might already know all that.  But yeah, if you have certain conditions that SWAMI doesn't recognize, you just have to stay away from those foods, regardless of their swami ratings.  It's a computer program.  It's not God.  

And by the way, their gluten free oats are sooooo good.  For some reason I just really like the flavor and texture.  It might be that pure Canadian flavors.  hehehhee.  Also, ruthie is correct about oats.  They have a gluten of their own. At least from a book I read.  So, you have to take that into account also.  


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I find it very easy to avoid gluten, I have not had a cross contamination or accidentally eaten gluten in +3 years.  My daughter has accidentally used the wrong toaster which was contaminated and vomited all night...

It really does not affect Swami, if wheat is a beneficial you know you cant eat it, so put it on your avoids list.   I don't really even think about Gluten anymore you just get so used to not eating it.


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Actually anything that carries the gluten-free symbols from Bob's is processed in their special gluten-free room. That includes rice flour. I can't really use many of their products because of the corn they process in that area. Yes I am that sensitive. I can't take meds with corn in them either. they make me sick.

I use Mccans Irish cut oats grown in scotland.

I had the same problem with my wedding bands. I now wear 18kt gold only. and stainless surgical steel otherwise. I used to be much more sensitive until I got my thyroid treated. I am allergic to nickel and chrome, they use minute amounts in lower karat gold pieces. I tols my husband 18 kt gold and pearls work for me.


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I have celiac and was diagnosed in 2002. Absolutely, do not eat anything that might have gluten in it.

Swami is awesome, however, I just avoid any grain that is not gluten free. In general, I avoid most grains.

For sure, there are many options, you just have to be mindful and be aware of what you are eating.
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