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Spring,

Thanks and me too. 3  balanced though small and the rest are diamond snacks. Nuts, nut butters, homemade hummes or veggies. I have to keep my fat up for the sake of calories being low carb and 'adequate' protein. Most times it doesn't even seem worth cooking or using a plate. . I wish I could figure out a way to keep fish good after cooking. I like cold salmon and tuna but not cod or other white fish and fish is a very large part of my diet. I'll even throw cold ground/ beef on a salad or mix it with a little mayo. Fish isn't quite as good like that.


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No it's nearly impossible to maintain level blood sugar when you eat and snack all day long- the body continually experiences a surge of insulin simply from food itself.  So it makes sense that *eating too frequently* is the real cause of blood sugar crashes.  The super low carb diets try to address this but are more like a punishment imo.  You just need to learn to not eat between meals and when you do eat to eat food that isn't going to destabilize your blood sugar.  Either that or eat in a window..... and fast the rest of the time.

Watch this video to understand how insulin works:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coUlGtAqmNg
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I find it interesting that this topic is so polarizing.

We have such extremes in opinion.


Butter:  Is a neutral on my swami and the amounts I'm eating it would not be a problem.  Plus, I don't think it has anything to do with the blood sugar deal.  It's not something I recently changed.  So, the   face kind of irritated me.  But I'm not really sure how you meant that.  As Dr.D points out, individuality is Key.  Nomads get butter.  It's the only dairy I'm eating at present.

Sahara:  That would not work for me what you're suggesting.  And I've been recommended by the Mayo clinic doctors to eat smaller meals with more protein.  Now, having said that, I don't put stock in what ever doctor says, but even Dr.D recommends smaller meals for A's and AB's who don't have as much stomach acids as some other blood types.  You're an O.  Have you read his books?  That sounds like an offensive statement, but if you don't read about the other blood types, it makes it hard to recommend something to others.  I didn't even watch your video because of how strongly I feel about it.  If I didn't eat in between meals, I'd dry up and blow away.  I can't eat 700-800 calories at one sitting.  If you can, more power to you.  But I've been like this since I was a kid.  Now, I could be wrong, but again: individuality is key.  

DoS:  My only pause about blackstrap molasses is my doctor claims it many times is full of mold.  I have no clue about all that, but I haven't eaten it since he told me that.  But I'm assuming you're suggesting it for the minerals, which is a good suggestion.  But I'm like, ugh.


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Joyce, is your friend diabetic?


No, he was healing after being vegetarian for years and developing atrial fibrillation, and trying to work out how to keep his blood sugar as stable as possible.... probably to avoid any possibility of an adrenalin rush which could trigger the afib.

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  So, the   face kind of irritated me.  


That wasn't my intention - that smilie is used as an 'I'm not sure' on my own forum.... as in I wasn't sure when posting to you, simply making a suggestion.
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Even small amounts of black pepper severely irritate my stomach, giving false hunger sensations.



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Thanks and me too. 3  balanced though small and the rest are diamond snacks. Nuts, nut butters, homemade hummes or veggies. I have to keep my fat up for the sake of calories being low carb and 'adequate' protein. Most times it doesn't even seem worth cooking or using a plate. . I wish I could figure out a way to keep fish good after cooking. I like cold salmon and tuna but not cod or other white fish and fish is a very large part of my diet. I'll even throw cold ground/ beef on a salad or mix it with a little mayo. Fish isn't quite as good like that.


I wish I could learn how to cook cod that wasn't a tough, tasteless mess to begin with! I have even tried flaking it and making patties like salmon - yuk! I know it can be cooked right, but just not by me - yet! My sister simmers hers a little while and enjoys it that way. I, too, love a salad with various proteins thrown on top! Delish! I finally came up with a dressing that seems pretty good. Part almond and olive oils with lemon. Olive oil is just the pits to me by itself.   May have something to do with being a super taster. Yes, salmon tastes good on a salad if it is frozen soon after cooking and thawed a little in the microwave.


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That wasn't my intention - that smilie is used as an 'I'm not sure' on my own forum.... as in I wasn't sure when posting to you, simply making a suggestion.


Aaah, that makes sense.  I don't know what it's supposed to me but the face to me looks like a "what the heck were you thinking" face.  hehehehhee.  I'm so defensive!!!  Or sensitive.  Or whatever.  But it did also seem kind of "off topic".  But maybe not.  I wouldn't imagine that the difference in a 1/4 - 1/2 teaspoon of butter to ghee would make any difference in blood sugar.  I suppose it's possible, but not likely, IMHO.

Cooking fish is tough.  I usually overcook all my meats and cod does dry out.  I have boiled it.  Basically immersed it in a bunch of water and if you add a little oil, it kind of keeps it a little bit moist.  That's a good way of cooking it.  Poaching I guess you would call it.


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No it's nearly impossible to maintain level blood sugar when you eat and snack all day long- the body continually experiences a surge of insulin simply from food itself.  So it makes sense that *eating too frequently* is the real cause of blood sugar crashes.  The super low carb diets try to address this but are more like a punishment imo.  You just need to learn to not eat between meals and when you do eat to eat food that isn't going to destabilize your blood sugar.  Either that or eat in a window..... and fast the rest of the time.

Watch this video to understand how insulin works:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coUlGtAqmNg


It simply doesn't work that way with me. Period. I have worked out the best system for my body that took forty years to get it right. I don't have a hair trigger on my insulin. I have seen my sisters literally crash on the floor when they went too long without eating. And fasting would be insane for them! The solution for them in a crisis is a balance of fruit first immediately followed by protein. They are doing a lot better now because they do the same thing I do.


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No, he was healing after being vegetarian for years and developing atrial fibrillation, and trying to work out how to keep his blood sugar as stable as possible.... probably to avoid any possibility of an adrenalin rush which could trigger the afib.

The best thing for me if I ever have an adrenaline rush is to walk it off as quickly as I can. The very opposite of what a person would think would help! Once the adrenaline is used up, things calm down. The worst thing to do is try to sit quietly!  Only makes the problem scarier. Works for me every time. But someone else might come up with another way to shake it off. And the funny thing is, since I realized how effective this is for me, I don't have them anymore!


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Dr. D recommends blackstrap molasses for explorers... If the mold was an issue for anyone (if there is any) it would be an issue for them more than anyone so... I wouldn't worry about it at all!
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Sahara,
Though I respect your way of eating, IF simply doesn't work at all for me either. Like I stated earlier, I monitored my sugars every hour on the hour eating small meals and I never went over 111 and often below 90. I'll take that and run. When I ate larger meals it was all over the place with spikes and crashes. If you eat small, there is no large rush. If you eat big, you need a bigger rush. My system likes to fuel as it goes, obviously yours is different. I get very light headed, headachess etc and hypo and hyper when I don't eat or eat larger meals. MY system is not set up for IF, trust me, I've tried it. I'm glad you found what works for you but I have found what works for me as well. It's not always as cut and dried as to 'train' yourself. At least not in my case


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I have always been low in Vit D.  So....  You may be right.  I take cod liver oil with D in it for that, but that's it.  Anytime I've tried to supplement D3, I've felt awful.

We are a varied bunch, for sure. D3 makes me feel great!  


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Well, I'm 99.9989899999999999% sure it's the applegate farms beef slices.  I had stayed away from them for a over a week now.  With no "blood sugar crashes".  And I ran out of my turkey slices today and had some of the beef with breakfast.  Shownuff.  About snack time I was getting shaky and had the same feeling.  What a bummer.  I love the stuff too.  I guess I'll just have to try and stay away from them.  Organic Prairie makes some too, and I'd like to try it, but our store that carries them have been out of them for a couple of weeks now.


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The best thing for me if I ever have an adrenaline rush is to walk it off as quickly as I can. The very opposite of what a person would think would help! Once the adrenaline is used up, things calm down. The worst thing to do is try to sit quietly!  Only makes the problem scarier. Works for me every time. But someone else might come up with another way to shake it off. And the funny thing is, since I realized how effective this is for me, I don't have them anymore!
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Some alternative to beef should be better for you: turkey slices, mutton (even canned), lamb. Partridge and phesant if caught wild should elminate lots of potential problems.  The trick is that AB is a little A-like, a little B-like, and also a little O-like.  Meat and nightshades are where the O-like can be seen.


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The best thing for me if I ever have an adrenaline rush is to walk it off as quickly as I can. The very opposite of what a person would think would help! Once the adrenaline is used up, things calm down. The worst thing to do is try to sit quietly!  Only makes the problem scarier. Works for me every time. But someone else might come up with another way to shake it off. And the funny thing is, since I realized how effective this is for me, I don't have them anymore!


That is the biologically sound thing to do!  Not good to hold that heat, it will manifest in other ways eventually when boiling over.  People in ancient times did not sit and try to breath when facing a life or death threat that required running for your life or fighting for your life (unless hiding and trying to contain yourself)!  But people did not contain constant adrenaline rushes every day all day then as seems to be required today.  

To me, if i am healthy, this is barely a problem.  It used to be a real struggle though, when i did only qigong exercises and ate poorly for my type.

Exercising helps blood sugar to level out too i think.  For me as an explorer, i found coffee to really cause swings in blood sugar, with drops going down to like 50 or 60 i am guessing (drinking black coffee with nothing in it even).  I have no blood sugar issues i know of, but my dad, who is a nomad (AB), has blood sugar crashes when skipping meals. Not sure why this is.  My sister also gets this way (her BT is B).

Cutting all forms of java and coffee has really helped me to feel calmer and more stable, as well as using other recommendations for explorers.  

I feel the coffee caused blood sugar fluctuation resulting in mood swings in me.  This is from experiences i have had with black coffee, such as tingling, feeling very hungry, light headed, and a decrease of energy levels.



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Sahara:  That would not work for me what you're suggesting.  And I've been recommended by the Mayo clinic doctors to eat smaller meals with more protein.  Now, having said that, I don't put stock in what ever doctor says, but even Dr.D recommends smaller meals for A's and AB's who don't have as much stomach acids as some other blood types.  You're an O.  Have you read his books?  That sounds like an offensive statement, but if you don't read about the other blood types, it makes it hard to recommend something to others.  I didn't even watch your video because of how strongly I feel about it.  If I didn't eat in between meals, I'd dry up and blow away.  I can't eat 700-800 calories at one sitting.  If you can, more power to you.  But I've been like this since I was a kid.  Now, I could be wrong, but again: individuality is key.  



Stomach acid has nothing to do with it- anyone can fast.  If you don't want to, don't.  But don't say you can't do something you've never tried.  

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I am so weary of this argument. Some people struggle to have enough acid to digest even small meals, let along a five hour binge. I remember when the diet was popular - can't remember the name of it now - that you ate all your carbs in one hour for the day, along with other foods, of course, and the rest of the time you ate foods with NO carbs (or as close to none as you could get). Because of the urging of friends, I decided to try this crazy diet. All it did for me was create a BIG stomach!!! And I felt totally crazy the entire day because of looking forward to that carb hour!! NUTS to all that stuff! Or maybe I should have written A V O I D S   T O  A L L  T H A T  S T U F F!  


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^^ You don't have to binge during the 5 hours, just eat normal amounts of food- so long as your calorie intake is reasonable you should be fine.
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Some alternative to beef should be better for you: turkey slices, mutton (even canned), lamb. Partridge and phesant if caught wild should elminate lots of potential problems.  The trick is that AB is a little A-like, a little B-like, and also a little O-like.  Meat and nightshades are where the O-like can be seen.



It's not beef that is the problem.  It's that particular brand of deli meat beef.  I don't think it's grass fed.  Beef is neutral for me and I've enjoyed grass fed beef with no problems like this.  It's either the fact that it's not grassfed, or the pepper they put on it.  That I try to wash off but doesn't come completely off.  I do eat turkey slices and they are mMMMmmmmm  good.  I get a brand called organic prairie.  But some variety is good in ones diet.  I use the deli meat for breakfast and for when I'm eating a snack and I need a little protein with it.  Like if I eat a kiwi for snack, I might eat half or a whole slice with it.  But I've never seen lamb or mutton as quick meats like this.   Beef, chicken and turkey are the only ones. (And of course PORK)  And then there's canned fish.  But I eat that at lunch on my salad.  I used to save some and use it with my snacks, but I've been eating the whole can lately.


So Sahara, you are suggesting I follow your advice over Dr.D's.  Why should I do that?  From many of your posts, it seems evident to me that you are not familiar with the recommendations of other types.  Like you comment about apples.  As I said in the other thread, apples are highly detoxifying in Explorers.  The do me well and are superfoods.  Diamonds.  So, what makes you think I should listen to you over Dr.D's programs and books?  And I disagree that it doesn't have anything to do with stomach acids.  If you eat once a day, are you eating 2000 calories in one meal?  I have tried to eat a good amount of calories at one meal and it causes severe problems.  (seems like 500-600 is my limit).  Especially when mixing meats and grains.  Which is another recommendation for AB's to minimize.  

I'm not sure really where you're coming from with all of your advice.  And I question it because much of it goes smack dab against what I've been taught through this system.  You are entitled to your way and opinion.  And I'm not faulting you for that.  But I've asked you a couple of times and haven't really gotten an answer.  And I'm calling you out.  Either you agree with Dr.D's teachings or you don't.  And if not, I'm not sure why you're here.  To try and get us all to do things your way?  And what qualifications do you have for us to do that?  I'm not saying we're going to think he's 100% right about everything.  But like I said, it seems like that many of your suggestions are practically opposite to what I've learned here.  That's why you are hearing so much grief from me over it.  

Plus, there is a dynamic that I have to admit.  For some reason I find that many of the people I have the hardest time getting along with are O's.  And I have noticed that I relate to most of the O's in my life like Oil and water.  It takes a lot of work to even be in the same room with them for me.  So...  I'm sure there is some of that going on here and it's not personal.  For what it's worth.  So...  I'm trying to be respectful, but it may not come across so well.  Yet your posts seem very contradictory to what I've been taught here, and I keep wondering if it's because you either don't care about what us AB's are taught, or if you just don't know.


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But honey, I've told you.  I DON'T NEED TO LOSE WEIGHT.  I think for the most part, it doesn't apply.  I weigh 125 pounds as of last night and I am 5'8".  

I'm glad you found something that works for you.  It sounds like there might be others that could benefit.  But yes, it really is sort of the opposite of what we're being taught here.  At least us A's and AB's.  So maybe you could possibly take that into account when talking with us.  It does cause a little strife for me, because it is opposite of what I've been taught here, what seems to work for me and the fact that I need to gain weight.  Not lose. We all have our challenges and whatever works for you is great.  Maybe the system would work for me.  But I don't think it would at present because like I've said, I really don't feel well after eating a good amount at one sitting.  My system goes haywire.  Again, I'm not sure a one size fits all approach is always the wisest approach.  I'm glad it works for you though.  

I guess I just want to be a blood sugar drama king.  Hehhehehehe.  I do wish I didn't have to eat nearly as many times in a day, and I've been trying to increase the amount at one meal.  And some days I'll go 3 hours or maybe even a hair more and not have a blood sugar crash.  I think some foods might trigger that.  But it's rare that I would go past 3 hours.  That's cool that you can.  It does make things simpler in life.  That's for sure.


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Hey, I went 3-1/2 hours today without having a blood sugar crash!!!!  I got busy with visiting with some cousins at my Mom's and that's just the way it went.  But I haven't had those beef slices, so what do you know.  And for what it's worth, I had white potatoes at lunch time.  But I don't notice those to affect me that way.  Although some would say that's not possible.


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JJR, I think your post shows how much bearing good family/friend relationships can have on our health in a positive way! As for the white potatoes, the only way they affect me, that I notice, is that I used to ache all over for a while after eating them.


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That's an interesting theory.  I know it felt good to be with them.  They were eating some goodies after their dinner, like chocolate and stuff.  And I would've loved to join in, but I probably would've payed for it.  So I just waited until I got home and cooked up some frozen strawberries with some almond butter on them.  Mmmmmmmm..  And then some rice with pecans later.  Mmmmmmmm..


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