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C_Sharp
Thursday, January 26, 2012, 5:33am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Okay, the carton lists carrageenan, which is an avoid for me.  But it appears like 4th in the ingredient list.

You are welcome to do what you want but many people find they are adverserly affected by tiny amounts of carrageenan
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Have you ever made almond milk?  


I make it regularly so that I do not consume carrageenan. Last batch was two days ago.



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Tomato = Avoid. Tomato Juice = Neutral... The meat of the food = More Bad Stuff. The liquid from the food = Diluted, less Bad Stuff.


Cheryl, I don't think the logic follows as simply as that, because in my SWAMI, tomato is a Superfood whereas the juice is an avoid!




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C_sharp, if I understand you correctly then, if there are no other avoids in the ingredient listing on the V8 label, it should be okay to drink. And no matter how far down the list an avoid is posted it is not to be consumed. Is this correct?  
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C_sharp, if I understand you correctly then, if there are no other avoids in the ingredient listing on the V8 label, it should be okay to drink. And no matter how far down the list an avoid is posted it is not to be consumed. Is this correct?  


Yes


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Balletomane, I guess I'm looking for a logical way to look at all of these good vs. bad foods. Because if it correlated to all of the forms of the food, ie, solid/liquid/oil, then it would make it easier to go to the grocery store and shop for the 'good' foods without having to refer to a list. If I know a food is 'bad' for me, I would then remove any form of that food group from my shopping list!  
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Most foods have one rating, regardless of form. But there are a few foods whose values change when they're processed. Apples have a separate rating from apple juice, for example. The juicing process changes how your body uses the food. For some people, the whole apple is better, while others do better on the juice. Of course, for some people, the ratings for both apples and apple juice are the same, which simplifies things.

It's not so much a matter of making something "better" or "worse." The processing changes the foods, making them act differently in the body, and these changes are good for some people and bad for others.

Something about the process of turning almonds into almond milk changes it; the fiber is removed and the proteins and fats are diluted. For some individuals, this means taking out the "fiber nutrients" they need and concentrating other elements of the almond that aren't so good for them. For other individuals, the fiber is hard on their systems, so removing the fiber makes the nutrients in the rest of the almond more bio-available.

I made both almond milk and rice milk this morning, because almond milk is neutral for DD1 and an avoid for me, while rice milk is a superfood for me and a "black dot" for DD1.

Almond milk: 8oz of raw blanched slivered almonds, 2 cups filtered water. Combine all ingredients in blender. Blend for a few minutes, then pour into strainer lined with thin cloth napkin and gently squeeze the milk through, leaving the pulp behind in the napkin. Then carefully transfer to a storage container.

Rice milk: put 2 tablespoons of white rice in a pot with a dash of salt, 1 teaspoon olive oil, and 2 cups water. Simmer about 2 hours. Put in blender with some ice cubes, blend until smooth, then strain as described for almond milk above.

I made a double batch of rice milk and it didnt' quite all fit in my container, so I made myself some hot cocoa (cocoa powder, molasses, hot water) and added the rest of the rice milk to the mug.


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Thanks so much for your explanation.  I realized that the difference was probably absorption via the different forms of the food...I guess I was just wanting my trips to the grocery a little less laborious! Just venting!  The recipes are much appreciated.  I'm sure as it usually is for most made-from-scratch foods those will taste much better than store bought.
I'm new to this forum {and any other one for that matter} so please clue me in on the "DD1". Who might that be?
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I guess I'm looking for a logical way to look at all of these good vs. bad foods.


There is a logical way. Unfortunately the logic is in the coding that SWAMI uses to parse and weigh the data available to it.

If it were simple, we would not need SWAMI. If you pick and choose based on your own logic your results may vary.  

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My guess is I would skip all tomato products until summer then use judiciously.
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Thanks so much for your explanation.  I realized that the difference was probably absorption via the different forms of the food...I guess I was just wanting my trips to the grocery a little less laborious! Just venting!  The recipes are much appreciated.  I'm sure as it usually is for most made-from-scratch foods those will taste much better than store bought.
I'm new to this forum {and any other one for that matter} so please clue me in on the "DD1". Who might that be?


Cheryl, we've all been new to forums in the past - we have to start somewhere right!

DD1 is Darling Daugher One - You'll be grand and get used to the 'lingo' in no time!

Andy  


Listen to all, plucking a feather from every passing goose, but follow no one absolutely. CHINESE PROVERB

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Ok here is a tomato product I found.

So admittedly, I am much more inclined to buy something already made than making it myself. Case in point: instant yerba mate. love the stuff. The lazy person's way to BTD...

Anyway, so while at the store I finally found a totally compliant Ketchup for me! YEAH

It's called Krazy Ketchup and it has no vinegar or yucky refined sugar. It's actually pretty good. It has pureed sweet potato and carrot and agave n' good stuff in it. Even the citric acid in it isn't derived from corn.

Google it, you'll see.
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StarPine, it sounds too good to be true!!! Thanks for the tips on the ketchup. How does it taste? Does it taste anything like Heinz?




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StarPine, it sounds too good to be true!!! Thanks for the tips on the ketchup. How does it taste? Does it taste anything like Heinz?


Taste like Heinz? Nope and I wish! BUT it is really good for what it is.
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I see. Not even close? The reason I asked is because my husband is a fan of Heinz, so if this tastes anything like it, it might just be the way of introducing more veggies to his diet, just like how the moms in the testimonial section do to their non-veggie eating kids, ! I might try making it myself then.




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I'm new to this forum {and any other one for that matter} so please clue me in on the "DD1". Who might that be?


DD= dear daughter. DS= dear son. Since I have two daughters, DD1 is my older one and DD2 is the younger one.


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Thanks Ruth...I've got lots to learn!
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StarPine, when I looked into the ingredient list for Krazy Ketchup, it says "critic acid." Oh-oh! I'm not going to touch that  .




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StarPine, when I looked into the ingredient list for Krazy Ketchup, it says "critic acid." Oh-oh! I'm not going to touch that  .


What's wrong with citric acid? I thought it was ok for O's as long as it isn't derived from corn. And this one isn't from corn. Look on the site, it tells you how they get it. It looked compliant to me.
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Oh, so it's not derived from corn? Thanks for pointing it out, StarPine. I have missed that point.




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Oh, so it's not derived from corn? Thanks for pointing it out, StarPine. I have missed that point.


When I saw that I was excited No corn- yay!
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