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Mickey
Saturday, December 31, 2011, 4:33pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I just took the plunge and ordered the swami express.

I'm wondering if anyone who has gone from the regular GTD to the Swami has lost weight and if so, how much?.  


"Let food be thy medicine"

Dr. D has said many times that it's not about what you don't eat but what you do eat that makes the difference.  "Quoted by Jane"
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MIFHI

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"Healthy people have the least overt symptoms from eating avoid foods." Dr. D'Adamo
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Cheryl
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Dear Friends,  This is my very-first-post to the site!  I downloaded the Swami in December after starting the BTD earlier in the fall.  I believe I lost weight initially on the BTD because it restricted my intake of available breads.  I only ate Ezekiel bread.  I am a bread/pastry/biscuit/cake/anything-with-flour-in-it lover. Because all of those aforementioned types of food were eliminated..I believe I lost some weight.  Since the holidays are over, I plan to get back to the diet which Swami came up with, but with great difficulty!  I'm afraid the bulk of the food suggested on the list is not very accessible. In my markets here buffalo, goat,mutton, ostrich, pheasant & squab [all diamonds]are not easily found. [I did find rabbit] I do have loads of seafood available.  But my main disappointment is in the carbohydrates.  As mentioned before I LOVE some type of bread at a meal. Well the Swami Diet came up with very exotic types of carbs that I have not been able to locate locally in the form of bread - amaranth, artichoke flour (pasta), Essene bread, and flaxseed bread.  Our health food stores do not carry these breads. If they do carry something like flaxseed, it contains one or more of my avoids.  And lo and behold, rice flour, buckwheat, oat flour, rye flour, sprouted wheat - all traditional flours for bread making are avoids!  If I understand it correctly, it means Ezekiel bread is out because it is a sprouted wheat bread.  Wish me luck!

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Lola
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welcome!  

try this basic recipe combining a mix of your allowed flours

focaccia
http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/breads/r/flaxbasicfoc.htm
video
http://video.about.com/lowcarbdiets/Focaccia-Style-Flax-Bread.htm


sprouted wheat is fine, unless swami says otherwise, according to you


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Cherryl, talk to Peppermint Twist. She is an O nonnie in the Tampa area and might be able to hook you up with some sources. With a heavy Cuban influence goat is probably around somewhere also. I know a goat farmer in my area and I've found buffalo in the grocery store though not everyday.
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Welcome & congrats on the weight loss so far...
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Oh, Lola, thanks for that recipe for the flaxseed bread.  Now that's a type of "bread" I can bake.  The time-consuming-yeast thing I do not do! My Mom only baked biscuits and cornbread!  I am one of those sandwich lovers and that recipe will make a great one. And GC-guy, I would love to talk with your friend Peppermint T, but I am not very agile on this site.  How would I go about doing that??   Thanks loads to you Possum for your encouragement.  I appreciate all of your comments and look forward to moving on to a better me!  Happy New Year to everybody...may your paths be Blessed!
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Lola, yes, SDiet suggested that every single possible wheat was an avoid..bran, germ, bulgur, durum, semolina, couscous, puffed, sprouted, whole grain,whole gr. emmer, whole gr. kamut, whole gr. spelt!  With that list I can't see Ezekiel bread as being available to me...and I really developed a great liking to it! oh, tell me it isn't so!
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Ezekiel bread unfortunately changed their ingredient list to include wheat gluten I believe

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Actually I have a loaf in the freezer...the ingredient list includes - organic sprouted wheat, org. spr. barley, org. spr. millet, org. malted barley, org. spr. lentils, org. spr. soybeans, org. spr. spelt, fresh yeast, org. WHEAT GLUTEN -- is that the culprit??  
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According to your Swami, sprouted wheat is an avoid.  This plus the wheat gluten are both going to do you no good...  You should do fine with the flax bread, though...

Much success to you!


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Cheryl, this is the hard part, but also the life-changing part for many of us. My health changed so much after eliminating wheat that I just wouldn't go there anymore.
There are muffins you can make with rice flour that you will love, so go on the internet and look up glutenfree baking. Best of luck.
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Jayneeo,
  It's really going to be hard considering that both brown and white rice flours are Avoids for me!  I see no options!
ABJoe,
  I thought it was explained that the process of the sprouting of the wheat made it an acceptable product.  Now, I'm totally confused and a little distraught as to what I am going to be able to eat...
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Bread is not a good choice for you.

I love chocolate cake and could eat it three times a day but I know that is not good for me so i chose to eat foods that promote my health.

I hope you begin to see the difference in what food does for us.

I see O's come to the forums all the time and they are always distraught over the bread tells me something about how their brains are effected by the bread.    Get off the bread and eat the hundreds of other foods on your list.

I know you can do this.

I am married to an O and when he smells bread he can't keep himself from it. The wheat goes into the air and into his blood stream, I know this sounds very weird.



MIFHI

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paul clucas
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Swami with a mix of regular and DPN supplements helped me lose 80 lbs, Mickey.  That with almost no exercise possible.

Swami with the Genotyping kit will be the best tools to defitively peg your Genotype.  Why is it that you do not think you are an Explorer?


My weight loss goal: 220 lbs.  A 6'4" dyslexic oddball: the size of a line-backer, the silhouette of Winnie-the-Pooh.
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ABJoe,
  I thought it was explained that the process of the sprouting of the wheat made it an acceptable product.

Sprouting wheat renders the wheat germ agglutinin lectin ineffective.  Another problem in wheat is the gluten content.  Gluten bothers many people, and since all of the wheat is a problem, I assume that gluten at almost any level must bother you.

Look into what Carbohydrates or Carb-heavy live foods are good for you to replace the bread in your diet.


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Thanks to everyone for their input.  I know I have to make a major paradigm shift when it comes to my eating!  
By the way Mickey I lost about 8 lbs during an 8 week period.  Just as Paul did, I didn't do any exercise, just didn't eat the usual breads/pastas/or fried foods. (I did saute in olive oil)  I believe also that cutting back on the sweetened drinks really helped. I usually add a little agave nectar or demerara sugar to my tea.  I've cut out totally the high fructose drinks. Also I try to avoid anything that includes high fructose.  I really thinks hf corn syrup is a real spoiler when it comes to weight reduction.  Good luck in the venture!
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