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Green Root
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I just tried different checks in my SWAMI. If I understood right, otherwise avocado is an avoid except
1. BOTH joint problems history is checked
2. AND environmental sensivities history is NOT checked.

So if you check joint problems, how severe they have to be that you check right?
[of course you lose tomatoes (but not tomato juice, why?? ) in that case]

And if you check environmental sensivities, have severe they have to be? I just wonder why strawberries are an avoid is environmental sensivities are checked and a black dot when not? If you anyway eat pure organic strawberries without herbicides and pesticides (you can taste the big difference)?

And why does this point affect on avocados that usually haven't so much poisons (according to dirty dozen list
http://www.organic.org/articles/showarticle/article-214
), moreover if you eat fruits of good quality?

I would like to see some good arguments because I'm interested in this topic. I once earlier accidentally found this neutral status for avocado and wondered how this is possible as I have got used to avoid status for O secretor individuals


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Well, for what it's worth, I have environmental sensitivities checked on my SWAMI and strawberries are a diamond superfood for me.   So, it's all individually worked out.

I love avocados.  And they've been off and on for me, depending on my lists.  But for some reason I notice when I eat them, I get tingles in my wrists and hands.  I've been trying not to tie too much pain and inflammation to foods mentally, because I have a tenancy to make food the enemy from all the problems I've had.  But for some reason that particular symptom is hard to overlook.  I'm not sure what it means, but I figured I'd throw it out there for discussion.  

But it seems to me you're applying general knowledge about food to your diet.  Which is fine, but SWAMI is programmed to take into individual status, reaction, whatever you want to call it, to a certain food.  Which is good.  I don't necessarily think it's a perfect program, but I think it's a whole lot better than swinging in the dark.  Or it's a whole lot better than a "generalized" plan that doesn't take into account everyone's individual needs.  Which is what most other diets do.  It's good to understand foods and what they have and offer, but some foods are just better than others for certain people.  

Take oranges, every list I've ever had has said it's an avoid.  Why? I don't know.  They are great.  They taste great, they have lots of vitamin C, fiber and other stuff.  But I just don't eat them because there's problem something in them that might not be the best for me.  I doubt it would really hurt me if I did.  But in the case of an orange, they can be acidic, and even my Dad notices if he eats them too much, his stomach gets upset.  And he doesn't even follow the diet.  (He's an A).  So......


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Lola, I get a software error and my mail hasn't been yet answered to. I haven't money to investigate on the textbook at this time. I bought The GenoType Diet book and after that many SWAMI oriented products... I think that's enough for now. You don't know what happens later...

JJR, thank you for your message! Good to know that strawberries can be so good despite env. sens.'s

It seems to me that your analysis is quite correct and the quality of foods matters very much indeed, not only what's the recommendation of SWAMI. I also think SWAMI is good at finding individual needs for your diet... and also think that especially in the US it's working, but the qualities of different foods can differ in our countries. Easily it comes to my mind that they have some meaning, too. Oranges are a good example - I have left them totally away. Except outside our home I sometimes drink some compliant tea with orange aroma. But how about grapefruits? They can be a little acidic, too, and upset some people's stomachs although they are much more allowed fruits than oranges. Well, maybe they lack some lectin and that's why they usually are not "best avoided".

It's very good to listen to your body. If you get some reaction nearly always after eating avocados, it's wise to replace them with something better. If you don't get, why to avoid?
http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?41

From the link above you cannot find information of why O secretors should avoid avocados.


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here is what I get about avocado being an avoid for me in my swami

so again, weather you like it or not, to each their own

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    GT1 Epigenotoxin (Tyramine Phenolics)
    GT1 Epigenotoxin (Lectin)
    GT1 Epigenotoxin (Chitinase allergens)
    GT1 Epigenotoxin (Malvin Phenolics)
    Blood Group O Non secretor Blood Group O Non secretor Metabolotoxin (anti-metabolite)
    GT1 Epigenotoxin (Glycotoxin)

take it or leave it.....
guess for you if running a swami, it might have other variables and will compute those algorithms


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personalized is what it is all about

here is what I get about avocado being an avoid for me in my swami

so again, weather you like it or not, to each their own


take it or leave it.....
guess for you if running a swami, it might have other variables and will compute those algorithms


Where do you get that information, Lola?
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Yeah, I've never seen that!

Green Root.  Grapefruit is a Diamond for me, and I eat it regularly.  It doesn't seem to mess with my stomach at all.  Strangely, a few fruits that are really good for me have been making me feel icky.  Lemons and Cranberries.  I think they've just been too acidic for me lately.  But they're both diamonds also.


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