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faithandjoy4
Saturday, December 17, 2011, 9:21pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Hi, I have been told I have some food intolerances from a blood test I had done through a lab that runs IGg/IGa blood test. I am blessed to not have really allergies to any foods as I have been to an allerist to follow up the intolerances.

some of the intolerance foods are showing as beneficial on my swami...should I eat them as the swami suggest and help my gut heal or follow the food intolerance results? I am pretty sure the intolerance are shoing up from leaky gut and fungus /yeast overgrowth....I tested positive for yeast overgrowth too...

thanks I hope this question makes sense...lol
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It makes perfect sense - Short term don't eat them, but long term you should be able to.

short term go low carb, and get hold of some Intrinsia, eat the beneficials that you are okay with on your intolerance tests.

strictly avoid wheat, dairy, soya, corn, and probably nightshades too. keep sugar to an absolute minimum.

be aware of the initial negatives feeling which will get better and then see the benefits, but keep the diet low sugar for a long time. you may find other problems along the way as you heal that gut.

use your full quota of ghee and oils. ans have a salad every day. good luck


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write a log while you add the beneficials.....monitor......food will get you well, not the avoidance thereof


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Quoted from Lola
write a log while you add the beneficials.....monitor......food will get you well, not the avoidance thereof


I must appologize, I am confussed with what you are telling me....are you saying to follow the swami plan exact and keep track of any foods that seem to bother me and then avoid them. and ignore the intolerance testing?

Policychecker, funny the GTD matches the food intolerance test results almost perfect with what foods to avoid and what is beneficial....I have really been contimplating just following that (GTD) it seems so true to who I am and what foods I notice bother me, are some people just not meant to follow swami? what are your thoughts.  
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You said that "some foods shown as intolerances are beneficial on SWAMI" and then later you said " GTD matches the food intolerance test results almost perfect with what foods to avoid and what is beneficial". Just how many foods is SWAMI saying are good for you that the lab testing says to avoid? Are we talking about 2 foods or a dozen?

If it's just a handful of foods that SWAMI says "yes" but lab tests say "no" then I'd suggest simply avoiding those foods for a few months. Eat the other SWAMI beneficials and neutrals and follow SWAMI portion size and exercise reccomendations. You should beel stronger, healthier, and more energetic over time.

Once you're feeling better, carefully re-introduce those foods, one at a time, to test yourself for reactions. Food intolerances can and do go away with gut healing.


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Yes, the GTD almost matches the food intolerances as they are avoids on my GTD..the GTD and my swami for some reason are no where close to similar...go figure...there are a bunch of foods like 25 or so that showed up on my intolerance test....that is what is making me think it is more about the yeast over growth than the actual intolerances....
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Gut damage, flora imbalance or toxin overload in the bloodstream can all contribute to "false" intolerances.  Clean up the diet, allow the gut to heal and balance, and many of those intolerances are likely to go away.

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intolerance testing ends up not allowing you to eat anything

your gut needs to heal first......
unless you have a noticeable allergy to something specific.....go slow on the swami beneficials given to you and note your improvement


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I am not saying to do this. When you get SWAMI done from a practitioner, the practitioner can choose whether to emphasize blood type or GenoType food values more strongly. Most of my clients do better when I choose to emphasize blood type values more highly, but we are all individuals, so the settings that are best for someone else may not be best for you.

In general, I do not find that food intolerance tests are not very helpful to me in determining appropriate diets for people.


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I don't think it would do any harm at all to follow what is in effect the BTD or GTD for a few months and let your body rest and recover. in effect not eating the foods the intolerance test says you should not eat (normally for 60 days)

Then slowly introduce the beneficial on swami, like one a week even. How many are there?

so that you eventual target would be to end up back on swami. That has To be the way to go long term.

I would re check all your swami calculations in the mean time, as i think C sharp mentioned. I certainly made loads of mistakes early on with mine.

what is your history with the diets, how long were you on each, BT, GT & Swami?

were any of the foods listed on the intolerance tests black dots for example? perhaps you just need to do a wash out period.

were any neutrals? perhaps give some detail and get some further input form people on here.




Kind Regards PC. FIfHI Swami III Pro

Partner (F) is O+(Non) MN. Duffy Fy(a+b+),  Lewis (a+ b-) Fructose Malabsorber. Explorer.
DD (7) is O+(Non) Lewis (a+b-) (Fructose Malabsorption)54% Gatherer ?

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Food Intolerances?
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Yes, Jane?

They mean the body's intolerance of certain foods, the inability to process certain foods. This is a Health Forum.

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Why eat the foods if they show as something to which your body has a reaction?  Cut them out for now, and like others have said here, reintroduce them one at a time, after at least six months.  That is what my natural health care practitioner recommended.  This should give your gut time to heal.  Remember, while SWAMI is excellent, it is a computer program and the information is gives is only as good as the input given by you.  


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