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Victoria
Thursday, December 15, 2011, 4:47pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Meat for breakfast is not something that I ever think about.  It's a hearty smoothie in the morning for me.  



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I agree with ABJoe about serving sizes.  If I paid attention to serving sizes, I'd probably still weigh 75 pounds.  Everyone is different - some people need more, some need less.  we have to listen to our bodies not to numbers made up by other people.


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I have to tell you all this.  I have been so blessed by the people on here.  Thank you all so much for taking the time to comment on my threads you guys.  Wholefoodie, thank you very much for sharing!!!!!!!!  And of course you briny.  All the sharing you have done has really warmed my heart.  And everyone's posts!!!  God is good.  Well, my belief says so.  And you guys are good!!!!!

I have yet to do some soups this year and I need to get into the practice of doing it.  I have a challenge in my household.  I do the cooking.  And my wife is very picky.  She will not eat things that are mixed together.  I LOVE LOVE LOVE things all mixed together.  But I typically cook everything as separate, so my wife can eat too.  I grew up eating hearty soups and goulashes and mixtures of all sorts and I miss them terribly.  My kids like them too, so, I have to figure out a way around this.  

Victoria, I don't do dairy right now, but I've thought about some smoothies.  I think it's a good idea and probably would fulfill my tummy.  But I'm not sure how to make one right now.  I either need to make some rice milk, or actually drink the stuff I bought.  It just tasted funny to me the last time I bought it.  And my daughter said the same thing, so.....  I've drank a little of it in the past and not thought so.  Either they changed their recipe, or it was a bad batch.  I'll have to try it again soon.


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I have to tell you. my last visit to the doctor was good she was going over my numbers. She said she could not really saything about cholesterol or blood pressure or triglycerides. She just more more patients were like me. I told her I probably eat more meat than would be recommended. But I also eat more veggies than most people. She was initially very suprised at my specialzed diet- BTD/GTD/Gluten-free/corn-free/white potato-free/ yeast and carb restricted- Basically a Bodybuilding diet, but no breaks for off season. When I am under a lot of stress I crave meat more. I typically ahve found that 2-3 eggs in the morning with veggies and/or maybe a small protion of oat bran, depending on how I feeling, is a good breakfast. lunch a big salad or veggies with some more meat. dinner is a repeat of lunch plus a small carb portion. i really believe in the philosophy of if my body us craving it I must need it. yes chocolate is a need. I know I need more exercise. But I know I feel better when I eat what my body requests.


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Did you read the thread by PattyH that discussed meat portions on SWAMI?  A lot of folks posted their protein allowances.  I'll try to find it.

Ahhh, here it is:

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1312384292/s-51/#num51

Okay, that's a link to my reply, but the whole thread might be worth reading.


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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But let me ask you O's this, am I really getting more meat frequency than you O's?  It must be a Nomad thing I guess.


Gosh what a concept. I guess it depends on your settings like you said.
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JJR perhaps is this one of the habits to skip... but we don't eat meats for breakfast ... but yep lamb is one of my preferest and makes me as well .....but de préference for lunch or dinner   


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I don't typically eat it for breakfast.  I haven't really been eating a lot of meat for breakfast.  Today I had 2 slices of turkey deli meat and an egg.  Yesterday it was 3 pieces of turkey bacon.  That's like not even 2 ounces.  Although the turkey bacon has a pretty good amount of calories for some reason.  Anyways....  

Any way I slice it, my SWAMI allows me quite a bit of meat it seems.  And I believe ever since I started eating more red meat, my immune system has worked better.  There was a long period where I wasn't eating it at all.


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Sometimes I think that Nomads would almost find it easy to be vegetarians, not that it would be good for us.  Many that I know, including myself, used to be vegetarians for long periods of time, and seem to be drawn to the vegetable sources of protein, such as nuts, etc.

My health is definitely better with some red meat, but I'm talking a pound a week of lamb, which isn't much on a daily basis. And dark turkey once or twice a week.  I have to remind myself to eat enough now that SWAMI has eliminated my food cravings.



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Any way I slice it, my SWAMI allows me quite a bit of meat it seems.  And I believe ever since I started eating more red meat, my immune system has worked better.  There was a long period where I wasn't eating it at all.


Yes, JJR you sure are allowed a lot of meat and that is the beauty of Swami. Glad you are feeling better on red meat. It sure is an education on these boards understanding a Nomad could need more meat than a Gatherer or Explorer! You are up there with us Hunters! (we just keep having more things in common!)

Make yourself those soups and stews and enjoy! I ate my pot of beef soup over the last several days, mainly by myself. So comforting!

Do you eat veal? I made a delicious veal stew, easy and simple ingredients:

2 lbs veal, patted dry, salted and dredged in compliant flour and lightly browned in a dutch oven or ovenproof pot. Remove veal from pot (I use Le Creuset) and saute one large onion. Add veal back to pot, add 2 cups chopped veggies of your choice (I used turnips and rutabagas but potatoes and carrots would be good too), a can of white beans, 3/4 tsp. dried rosemary and about 2 cups of beef broth. Bring to a boil, cover and place in preheated 300 degree oven. Cook about 1 and 3/4 hours and add 8 oz. fresh spinach. Return to oven about 10 minutes until spinach is wilted. Makes 4-5 servings, gets better after flavors blend and is fine for a few days. I add a little extra broth each time I heat. Make once, then just heat and eat!

PS: I would check it after about 1 hour in the oven to make sure the liquid is not evaporating too rapidly. This will vary based on oven temp and type of pot. Make sure to cover when in the oven so it doesn't dry out.

Lisa


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Oh man, that sounds delicious.  But I don't know if I've ever had veal.  It is a neutral on my list.  Liver is a diamond and I need to incorporate that sometime also.

And yeah, I need to make some soups.  I could use some this morning I think.  It's coooooold in here.  I think it's cold outside.


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I eat one meal a day with 400 g raw beef meat, 100 g raw beef fat, 70 g raw hake and 1 egg. That's enough for my zerocarb.


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I eat one meal a day with 400 g raw beef meat, 100 g raw beef fat, 70 g raw hake and 1 egg. That's enough for my zerocarb.
Ummm - all mixed together?

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Ummm - all mixed together?



Yeap. When You eat raw, there is no affect for different protein's enzymes. Everything is digested without our enzymes. So for me there is no differces in teste. Everything is perfect.


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Like I've been real anal about making sure I don't really eat more than a 1/4 cup of nuts at once.  Just because it seems like it's the recommended amounts on all the packages and my calorie calculator.  Like somehow the packages know that if you eat more than 1/4 cup at one sitting, you're going to have a stroke


No, if you eat more than 1/4 cup of nuts at once, you'll get fat. For a good portion of the American and Canadian population, getting fatter is a bad thing. For you, it's a good thing.

1/4 cup is "one serving." That's just how you calculate these things, so you can compare how much nut butter is equivilent to how many nuts. But it's perfectly okay to eat more than one serving at a time! I mean, 4oz of ice cream is supposed to be "one serving" but most people eat at least double that! (Not that you should be eating ice cream,  but that was a convenient example of something that's often eaten in much larger portions than reccomended on the label.)


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Oh sure, rub the ice cream in!!!!  Just kidding.  I've almost thought about getting some rice dream ice cream for a treat.  I don't know.  I might stick to my dark chocolate once in a while.  I'm up to about 2200 every day.  I think I need to be maybe a hair more.  Maybe 2400 or so.  I don't know.  I hit over 2300 one day and it felt good.  But I'm not putting on weight by the second.  I was going up, but the last couple days it's been more like maintaining.  Briny said she had to eat 3k in order to gain, and she's smaller than I.  

And thank you for the encouragement Ruthie.  It's funny, the calorie program I'm using, when I put in my weight and it goes up, it says "UH OH, you've gained such and such".  Even though my target weight is higher than what I am, the program doesn't have a mode for people that are underweight, needing to gain.   It makes out like gaining is a bad thing.  "Uh oh".  I mean cmon.  How about, GREAT!!!  


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"Finally brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things." - Phillipians 4:8
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There should be a place to email the people who run the software. Complain about the "uh oh" thing.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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