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I see it in my swami and I've found a source for some, but what is the difference between that and steel cut or rolled?  Should I try it?  I think it's a diamond.  Let me check.  Yeah, it's a diamond.

Anybody eat this stuff?  What's your experience.  I see that rice bran is also a diamond, but I don't know if I've ever seen it by itself.


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Oat bran is the bran part of the oats, separated from the whole grain. Rice bran is the same thing; what's left over when brown rice is turned into white rice.

I've seen both of these items in health food stores, and in the "natural foods" sections of supermarkets. Oat bran seems to be easier to find. Both types of bran are higher in protein and fiber, and lower in carbs, than the whole grains. If you're trying to gain weight, the whole  grain may be a better choice. For weight loss, the bran is a better choice.

For overall good health, my "gut instinct" is that whole foods are better than selecting one portion to eat in larger amounts than occurs naturally. But the bran does seem to concentrate "the good stuff" from the grains.


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Should I try it?  I think it's a diamond.  Let me check.  Yeah, it's a diamond.

Remember that the Diamond foods are helpful for weight loss.  In your case, I would focus on Superfoods that are NOT Diamonds.  You will get the healing without the weight loss focus.


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It's on my SWAMI as a neutral, but for me causes the most unbelievable gas!   That'll most likely be the gluten. Shame, I am quite sure it was doing me some good too.


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Quoted from ABJoe

Remember that the Diamond foods are helpful for weight loss.  In your case, I would focus on Superfoods that are NOT Diamonds.  You will get the healing without the weight loss focus.



That's an interesting theory, but I'm not sure I totally agree with it.  Because a very large percentage of my superfoods are Diamonds.  Or maybe that's why I am losing weight.  Hehehhee.  But rices of all kinds are diamonds.  Oats and the oat bran are both diamonds.  Same with meats.  Lamb is a Diamond and it's the highest in calories out of any of the meats I eat.  And it is oh so good.  Mmmmmmm....  In fact, I'd have to say that the highest calorie foods are diamonds, if I went down the list.  But regeardless of that theory, I think I'm better off eating the whole grain, as I'm pretty sure I need the carbs too right now.  For weight gain.  So, this has been an enlightening moment.  !!!!  I won't buy it then.  I'll just stick with the normal ole oats, steel cut, and different rices.  I just ate one of the lundbergs rice cakes for snack today, compared to the quaker state.  And they're twice the calories and fill me up just a hair more.  Not a whole lot more to where it's bad.  At one time, they used to be hard to digest, and the quaker state ones weren't.  I think when my stomach wasn't working so well, that's how I adopted those.  But I'm going back to the lundbergs now.  Because twice the calories.  And it's probably a better product anyways.  Although they're more expensive, but you get twice the food!  Nice.  And I don't think they're twice as expensive.


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That's an interesting theory, but I'm not sure I totally agree with it.

This quote is at the beginning of the food lists for each Genotype in The GTD book:
Superfoods that help "X Genotype" maintain ideal weight, increase muscle mass, and decrease body fat are identified by a diamond icon.  To gain the maximum benefit from the "X Genotype" diet, these foods should be routinely consumed.

As such, I stand corrected.  You definitely want to eat them to get back to ideal body weight and build muscle mass.  Although, I think I still agree that whole grains are not going to hurt to provide additional energy at the moment.

Thanks for challenging my statement.  It made me go refresh my memory.


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It's on my SWAMI as a neutral, but for me causes the most unbelievable gas!   That'll most likely be the gluten. Shame, I am quite sure it was doing me some good too.


Oats give me a large amount of muscle mass for some reason. Unfortunately, they contain gluten. They cause a lot of gas for me, too.

I think oat bran might be a better choice though.
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Well, I hope I did it respectfully.  But yeah, I would read that to mean whatever optimum weight is, less or more than what you are if you are not.  Eh?  I'm sorely underweight.  But I seem to be edging up, praise the LORD!!!  I'm so thankful my stomach is working well.  

I love oatmeal and rice.  They seem to really hit the spot right now for me.  I'm wanting to branch out into white rice.  I'm not sure if it's going to work or not, but I should try it.  It might be too high glycemic because I struggle with blood sugar issues at times.  But my kids could eat it.


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JJR, try white basmati if it is on your food list.  I always feel that my body loves it so much more than regular white rice, which feels empty next to basmati.

Yes, oat bran is less starchy, which in my case is a good thing.  Cooked oats always gives me a blood sugar crash a while after eating it.  But cooked oat bran makes a wonderful cooked cereal that sticks to my ribs a lot longer.



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Victoria, I use basmati too, it's lower GI than regular rice..I cook it with sea salt and a tablespoon of coconut oil..tastes really good. As for oat bran, its good for lowering cholesterol ..my friend trialed that over six weeks, she ate oats for breakfast every day, and did a blood test, her cholesterol levels went down to the normal range so proof it does work


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White Basmati, eh?  Hmmmmm.......  Or should I just stick with brown?  I guess I'm trying to give myself some more choices that work.


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As for those with gluten issues, I have not found any source of oat bran from certified gluten free oats.  

As for me, I can't have even gluten free oats without paying for it in my joints.


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Huh.  I've just eaten some of the gluten free and I think I actually prefer the regular.  Although I like both.  


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White Basmati, eh?  Hmmmmm.......  Or should I just stick with brown?  I guess I'm trying to give myself some more choices that work.


I like whole grains better for the nutrition - brown basmati is great!  I mentioned white basmati only because you had said you were considering branching out into white rice and I think white basmati is the better option there.  



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White Basmati, eh?  Hmmmmm.......  Or should I just stick with brown?  I guess I'm trying to give myself some more choices that work.

The only reason I would consider white rice (basmati or regular) is if I was repeatedly running into a time issue when trying to cook brown rice...  I much prefer the fiber and nutritional benefits of brown rice over white.


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You could use half white and half brown? Personally I cant stand brown rice or pasta  


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The only reason I would consider white rice (basmati or regular) is if I was repeatedly running into a time issue when trying to cook brown rice...  I much prefer the fiber and nutritional benefits of brown rice over white.


Well that's interesting.  I didn't notice that it cooked quicker.  hehhehehe.  That is good to know.  Because that's one of the upsides to oatmeal.  It cooks up so much quicker.  So, thank you.  I'll keep that in mind if I need something quicker.  

BtypeAus, I've never met a rice I didn't like.  But having said that, I've eaten it with very little additional flavoring to understand why someone might not like that flavor.  I get a hankerin for it plain at times, but I also like to add things other times.  I add carob powder or cinnamon.  And I always add nuts.  So, you may like Brown rice more if you spice it up a little.  I used to add a lot of stevia, and that was like really really good to me.  Like eating ice cream or something.  But I stopped doing stevia, as I just wasn't sure if it was good for me.  Plus now it's a black dot.  But I do add some salt pretty much every time.    A little butter or olive oil.  Whatever you're in the mood for.  


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I also like to do oatmeal or quinoa due to them both cooking very quickly.  There are times when I really want rice, so just have to wait for the brown rice to cook.  

I really like to cook brown rice in a broth so it is flavored well.  I can still put some ghee or other "condiments" on my rice if desired.  


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I ate oat bran for breakfast before I got the SWAMI.  If I soak it before cooking, I don't have much of a problem with gas.


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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I love brown basmati!!

If you soak it for about 30 mins in spring water, then rinse, rinse, rinse - at least 10 changes of water or until the water runs clear it helps.  Put in a pot with just a little less than 1.5 times water to rice ratio (I also add a sliver of raw ginger) and bring to the boil, once it boils put a very tight fitting lid on ( I use a tea towel over the pot and then on with the lid to really seal it up tight), and put it on a fairly low heat for 15 mins then off the heat altogether for another 10 mins (no lifting the lid at all or checking here).  Then you're good to go.  I always have fluffy and delicious brown basmati every single time!!  Give it a burl, it's so good!!

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I add a tiny bit of olive oil after it boils, before I put the lid on, and I find that even the tiniest bit of oil makes a HUGE difference in the finished product.  I don't know why.  But I'm talking 1/4 tsp or less will make it much more fluffy.  


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Thanks I'll give that a try next time!


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I add a tiny bit of olive oil after it boils, before I put the lid on, and I find that even the tiniest bit of oil makes a HUGE difference in the finished product.  I don't know why.  But I'm talking 1/4 tsp or less will make it much more fluffy.  
Makes sense - the grains can't stick together...

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My understanding is that diamond foods promote healing. Part of being healthy is being at a healthy weight. For the vast majority of us, "approaching a healthy weight" means losing weight. For a few individuals, such as JJR, that means gaining weight.

So enjoy those diamond foods!


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Yeah, we all deal with something different.  I happen to be opposite of many others, but it's all the same thing.  Some kind of struggle to overcome.  And I can relate to either side of the fence and have learned not to judge.  That's all part of the lesson I'm learning.  Pride is dumb, and not helpful to anyone, including myself.  

I will enjoy them!!  I'm learning to at least.  Hehehehe.  I do have to say, I think I'm blessed in that I do have a lot of choices of foods that are supposed to be good for me.  Others might have much more restrictions than I.  But strangely enough, even though I'm picky about if something is going to hurt me, I'm not picky in the tastebuds.  In my adult life I have loved food of every kind.  And this diet has helped me eat veggies I never used to.  I was terribly picky as a child.  But my tastebuds are the opposite an adult.  I want to eat everything, taste wise.  Spicy, not spicy, bitter, sweet, earthy, whatever.  I suppose there are a few foods I don't like the flavor, but I haven't eaten anything lately that resembles that.  So now I just have to get my mind of the worry part about food hurting me.     


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