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Energizing
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First let me preface this by saying it is shared with the best of heartfelt intentions.  

I used to be very sensitive to all kinds of foods, chemicals, smells, etc. I found it extremely limiting and I too, was quite a bit underweight from it. I was afraid to eat anything I *might* have a reaction to. One day, after living this way for many years, I realized that it was no way to live. I also realized that I had trained my mind into hyper-vigilance of any sensation that fell out of my prescribed view of 'normal'. So part of my healing involved forcing myself to eat foods that I was afraid of and then distracting myself away from searching for weird sensations as a result. I soon discovered that many of my unpleasant reactions were mostly created in my mind and were not actually my body's experience at all. If I looked for weirdness or anticipated it, it was there. So I am sharing this here in response to the quote I copied into the post. From that quote, I infer there is some awareness that your beliefs around food may be impacting your experience. Again... shared with the best of intentions and from my own experience with a similar issue....  



WOW, I feel the exact same way! Maybe its a nomad or a B thing Our minds must be pretty powerfull
As I cracked down on my diet .. I actually started becoming more sensitive. Now I'm trying to become less stressed about eating avoids and not thinking its going to kill me, although i try my best to eat as best as possible.






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Is the deli meat turkey 100% turkey?
Most deli meats have wheat, modified starches and those nasty nitrates & mineral salts... not judging or anything, once in a while would not hurt - but if you are eating deli meats everyday maybe swap it for something else high calorie - chocolate even?  

(I am a gatherer trying to pad out a little myself, I just had 2 slices of rice bread with butter, macadamia butter and melted chocolate on top - decadent but it hit the spot lol.)

As suggested, I also hide stuff in smoothies - oils, powders etc...


I buy this brand called organic prairie.  It's expensive, and it's the best there is.  No wheat.  Let me see if I can get the ingredients up for you.

http://www.organicprairie.com/product/organic_turkey_breast_slices/overstock
For some reason they have the picture of the chicken in there, but it's just turkey breast, water and sea salt.



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WOW, I feel the exact same way! Maybe its a nomad or a B thing Our minds must be pretty powerfull
As I cracked down on my diet .. I actually started becoming more sensitive. Now I'm trying to become less stressed about eating avoids and not thinking its going to kill me, although i try my best to eat as best as possible.







I think this attitude has been helping me also.  Although I'm not really eating anything crazy.  I'm trying to be flexible, but I have a long way to go.  I had a piece of pumpkin pie from the store that I wanted to eat from Thanksgiving, but I just couldn't bring myself to do it.  I'm having a hard enough time being flexible with just the good foods.  Because half the time I'm skeptical of all foods.  Which I'm trying to change.  For example.  We bought some rice milk, and I'd been adding it over my rice cakes in a bowl from time to time.  I was buying the small little organic ones and just pouring out of them, because I didn't want to waste the.  It says it needs to be drunk up in 11 days.  Well, we bought the bigger size and I swear it tastes different than the smaller sized ones, even though it's the same ingredients and formula.  I didn't know if it was me, but I just had my daughter taste it and she said the same thing.  It has a weird aftertaste.  Not like the other ones.  So, I'm like thinking, it's bad.  It doesn't taste like it normally does.  That just makes me a little uneasy.  And that's frustrating.  This happens with nuts sometimes too.  They just taste, off.  And it's like, am I being anal for being concerned?  Sometimes I think yes, and sometimes I think no.  Either way, I'm not drinking that milk.  Maybe it's anal.  But I was hoping to add rice milk in because it's a diamond superfood, and it has lots of calories.  Even if just a little at a time.


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Some kind of protein shake might help. This doesn't actually sound very good sorry

yogurt
brown rice protein powder
almonds
almond milk
blueberries

You can also have dates though those are very high in carbs.  

About the nut butter-- it should be OK so long as you wait 3-4 hours between meals.  This allows insulin to drop back down.  So eating a few tablespoons of almond butter isn't going to hurt you but eating all day and grazing will.
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It sounds good!!  I don't do yoghurt right now though.  

I don't understand the problem with eating some nut butter here and there.  My doctors tole me to eat a little bit of protein with every meal, to even out blood sugar.  And it seems to help.  I don't get crashes any longer.  I used to get them if I ate grains without protein or fruits.  So now sometimes I eat a little nuts with my fruit.  Or some meat.  Or a small amount of nut butter.  That's probably why I don't go nuts with the portion with them, as I do use it throughout the day.  But it's not always nut butters.  Or nuts for that matter.  Meats are my main staple for breakfast, lunch and dinner though.  With veggies.  Except fruit with breakfast.


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.. it's just turkey breast, water and sea salt.



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Yeah, except for I really need the dark meat more, I think.    


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About the nut butter-- it should be OK so long as you wait 3-4 hours between meals.  This allows insulin to drop back down.  So eating a few tablespoons of almond butter isn't going to hurt you but eating all day and grazing will.


How will "eating all day and grazing" hurt him if he needs to gain weight?


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right now I'm eating 6 meals.  But even some of them are interrupted by some time.  So, yeah, I'm grazing.  I've never been a eat a 1000 calories at one meal kind of person.  Even before I had problems.  There were times I packed it away.  But for the most part, I ate slowly all day long.  And if I did eat a big meal at once, I'd be tired from it.  I remember going to restaurants as a kid and my Dad could never get over how I couldn't finish this giant hot dog with a huge bun and a bunch of fries.  Talk about carb and protein overload. I should've been eating more veggies and fruits back then.


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I've been stuck around 2000 calories.  I need to figure out how to get regularly between 2200 and 2500, I think.  But I'm not sure how right now.  


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Could you add more oil to your meals? Drink oil as a beverage? Add in another meal or snack during a time of day you're not currently eating? Drink some kind of high-calorie beverage in place of plain water?


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Yeah, the high calorie beverage is a thought I've been having but not figured out what.  I don't want more sugar.  

I'm basically eating all day long right now. And I'm upping my quantities at each meal so I'm not hungry 30 minutes after.  But it's kind of a figuring out game as to how much to eat at one sitting.  My stomach needs to stretch some probably, but I don't want to overdo it.  My grain meal, it sticks to my bones for a couple hours.  That's in the evening.


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I was on a 3000 calorie diet for awhile.  With lots of oils, non-lean meats, nuts, and nut butters (and sometimes cheese), I was able to reach 3000.  What really helped me (but might not work for everyone) was making sure I had at least 3 to 4 hours between meals with absolutely nothing but water in between.  If you have a mental block toward eating a lot of oil or nut butter at one sitting, try to get over that, but if it's actually physical and your body really doesn't want all that fat at once then listen to your body.


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...and I also drank shakes.  For me it was kefir, macadamia or walnut oil, and hemp protein.  Sometimes I'd add other stuff like peanut butter, alfalfa, and/or cocoa


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What made you choose 3k?


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What made you choose 3k?


I was trying to gain weight and, according to calculations, I should have needed about 2400 calories, but I wasn't making any progress so I upped it to 3000.  After years of weight loss (bottoming out at 75lbs ) I finally gained weight!  But I also started going to a wellness chiropractor and that definitely improved my digestion so I'm sure it was a combo of the diet and the chiropractic adjustments.


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75 lbs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  You must not be tall. And you were eating 3k a day!!!!  OH MY!!!!!!!  I hit 116 last night for the first time in a while.  Praise the LORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I'm assuming you must have been very active, no?  I'm not so active right now.  I am home a lot, do part time CAD work on my laptop.  I've been doing the dishes and cooking and that feels like a full time job right now.  With me and my family.  Even just for me I'm eating so many times in the day.  But I've been more active these past few weeks than I have all year.  I think it's a mental thing but also I think the extra calories are helping.

But you're still blowing my mind.  75 pounds!!!!!!!!  Can I ask how tall you are?  Can I ask if you were having some kind of mental struggle with food?


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Well, I once weighed as little as 7 pounds and 7 ounces, but I was a lot shorter back then.


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You funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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75 lbs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  You must not be tall. And you were eating 3k a day!!!!  OH MY!!!!!!!  I hit 116 last night for the first time in a while.  Praise the LORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I'm assuming you must have been very active, no?  I'm not so active right now.  I am home a lot, do part time CAD work on my laptop.  I've been doing the dishes and cooking and that feels like a full time job right now.  With me and my family.  Even just for me I'm eating so many times in the day.  But I've been more active these past few weeks than I have all year.  I think it's a mental thing but also I think the extra calories are helping.

But you're still blowing my mind.  75 pounds!!!!!!!!  Can I ask how tall you are?  Can I ask if you were having some kind of mental struggle with food?


I'm 5'4".  It blows my mind too.  I figured out yesterday that (at my current weight) if I were to remove both of my legs and one of my arms, what would be left would weigh about 75lbs.  When I weighed 75lbs I wasn't very active; I would take a walk everyday, but at a weight that low I didn't have the energy to do anything more than that.  It was all digestive problems.  I was originally eating 2000-2500 calories but kept losing weight.  Then I discovered I don't produce enough stomach acid and started taking HCl and eventually made it up to 90lbs but plateaued there for at least a year.  That's when I started the 3k diet; I saw a little weight gain, but it wasn't until I started going to the wellness chiropractor that I really gained weight (15lbs in a little less than 3 months).  I could fill a book with all the improvements I've seen since I started going there.  It has been an absolute miracle, and it's not just me - miracles walk out of his office every day.  If you have the opportunity to experience wellness chiropractic, definitely go for it.

Congrats on making up to 116!  (I treated every pound gained like a major milestone )  It's also great that you've been more active.  The more active you are, the more you'll rev up your metabolism, and, likely, the more hungry you'll be.  Plus I think it just makes you feel better - happier and more peaceful.


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Yes.  Thank you for sharing!!!  I go to a chiro about once a month.  Well, we try to go every 3 weeks, it seems to work better on our backs.  But I'm not sure there is a difference between a "wellness" chiro and a normal one.  Our chiro is pretty good.  He does some pressure point works on me that is supposed to help digestion get moving and it seems to help.  I presses on my shoulders, my guts, that piece of meat between my thumb and pointer finger.  He does some regiment that he looks at a piece of paper and says it's a real "old" technique.  But the points he massage are always a little sensitive, and it seems to make my gut gurgle every time.  Hehehhehee.  That's along with the spinal minupilation of course.  My wife and son are wound as tight as a drum and they always need an adjustment to keep everything in place.  There muscles are always rock solid.  Like they can't relax.  I think it might just be how their muscles are.  

Anyways, thanks for the encouragement.  I don't know if I need to be at 3k, because I seem to be gaining weight.  I'll be keeping a check on it.  I've been just over 2k the last few days.  Although I think shooting for 2200 or so is a better goal.  Last night I just had 2080.  But it was late and I didn't want anything else and I figured it's good enough.  But like I said, I think 2200 would be a better place to be, but I don't think I've quite hit it yet.


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That's a great sign that you're gaining weight - it means it's possible.  It's better to just need more calories than to have some sort of problem that actually prevents weight gain.

The chiropractor I go to doesn't use manual manipulations.  He uses a machine thing (I don't know what's it called), and he does some other things too.


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