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Victoria
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And same with me!



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I'm sensing a trend...


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You guys!!!!  HOW DARE YOU!!!


No no I'm just kidding.  I am starting to learn this I think.  And your words are very encouraging!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Thank you.  When my pastor gave me this challenge about eating 2k calories a day, it got me thinking.  My mind thought:  "You know, I may have problems or pain eating food, and I may not, but I WILL have problems not eating enough.  So, isn't the first one the better choice?  I mean, even if some foods do mess with me, I'd rather eat than starve to death.  So....  I think it helped my mind shift a little.  Or a lot.  And I think the thought process is helping.  And then there is the whole if you eat too much fat you'll have a heart attack thinking that I think is deep in my mind somewhere.  But I'm like doing the opposite.  Which isn't good for your heart either.  Starving it.  Then there is the whole thing, will eating too much stop me up.  Well, it's probably better to go every 2 days and figure out some enzymes to help or probioitics.  Instead of just not eating to keep it all cleared up.  So yeah, much of this is in my mind.

But I will say this, it is still not easy to find real high calorie foods that aren't completely lousy for you.  Junk food.  Which is why I need help figuring it out.  But, I just had an apple and a little less than a quarter cup of macadamia nuts.  Those suckers are so good and pack a punch, calorie wise.  I also might need to buy some of Dr.D's bars again.  And I need a good source of dates.  The dates I've been buying smell fermented right when I open them, probably from sitting so long.  They haven't always been like that.  Figs are good too.


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I've always eaten because I get headaches from not eating.  I just make sure that I have enough good things around so I don't have to choose avoids.

Quoted from JJR
Thank you Joe.  It's about what I do but I need to increase my portions.
From looking at your post of food portions, I concur...  I sometimes feel like I am starving myself, and I eat much larger portions than you have posted...  I often have two cups of vegetables at a meal, as SWAMI says 6 per day.
I know I way more eggs per week than recommended, but I eat at the top of all of the other proteins as well.



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I have to try eggs again.  They were messing with my guts, I thought.  Lower GI.  Someone said to try just the yolks.  


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We Nomads seem to have the opposite challenge from Gatherers.  

When I'm stressed, I lose my appetite.
When my health gets imbalanced, I can (used to) start suspecting everything I eat, getting paranoid.
It would be easy in many ways for me to just not eat, so that food was not an issue.

etc., etc!

Once I really "got it" that it's just my genotype talking to me, I started preparing robust meals and making sure I sit down and eat a well-balanced assortment of food groups at every meal.  It's much better.  



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You know, that really hits the nail on the head.  Because that's what I do.  If I don't feel good, I'm suspecting food.  It's probably all wrong!!!  You're right.  Geez.  And food makes you feel better when you aren't feeling well.  Well, for the most part I think.


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Seraffa, too funny!  Everyone's struggles are different I guess.  What makes us all unique.  I don't know how to zone out and eat right now.  I was thinking that same thing the other day how in the old days I could watch a movie, and eat a ton of buttered popcorn and not think twice about it.  Popcorn doesn't sit well with me any more, and it probably shouldn't as an AB.  But whatever.  

This is what I ate yesterday and it totalled 1400:

Breakfast (3 Items)
     Calories
Deli Meat, Turkey Breast, Low Salt
Deli Meat, Turkey Breast, Low Salt Add Deli Meat, Turkey Breast, Low Salt to Favorites
1.5 slice(s)
edit | copy | delete
     42
Prunes, Dried
Prunes, Dried Add Prunes, Dried to Favorites
3 item(s)
edit | copy | delete
     68
Watermelon, Diced
Melon, Watermelon, Diced Add Melon, Watermelon, Diced to Favorites
1 cup(s)
edit | copy | delete
     46
Add Food copy meal      
156
Lunch (4 Items)
     Calories
Lettuce, Romaine, Shredded
Romaine Lettuce, Shredded Add Romaine Lettuce, Shredded to Favorites
1 cup(s)
edit | copy | delete
     8
Potatoes, Sweet, Baked, Peeled
Potatoes, Sweet, Baked, Peeled Add Potatoes, Sweet, Baked, Peeled to Favorites
0.3 item(s)
edit | copy | delete
     31
Olive Oil, Extra Virgin
Olive Oil, Extra Virgin Add Olive Oil, Extra Virgin to Favorites
0.2 tablespoon(s)
edit | copy | delete
     24
Salmon, Pink, with Bone and Liquid, Canned, No Salt
Salmon, Pink, with Bone and Liquid, Canned, No Salt Add Salmon, Pink, with Bone and Liquid, Canned, No Salt to Favorites
0.2 item(s)
edit | copy | delete
     126
Add Food copy meal      
189
Snack (2 Items)
     Calories
Kiwi Fruit
Kiwi Fruit Add Kiwi Fruit to Favorites
2 item(s)
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     93
Peanut Butter, Organic
Peanut Butter, Organic Add Peanut Butter, Organic to Favorites
0.3 tablespoon(s)
edit | copy | delete
     30
Add Food copy meal      
123
Dinner (14 Items)
     Calories
Honey
Honey Add Honey to Favorites
0.1 tablespoon(s)
edit | copy | delete
     6
Deli Meat, Turkey Breast, Low Salt
Deli Meat, Turkey Breast, Low Salt Add Deli Meat, Turkey Breast, Low Salt to Favorites
1.5 slice(s)
edit | copy | delete
     42
Lamb, Australian, Shoulder, Whole, Separable Lean and Fat, 1/8'' Fat, Cooked
Lamb Shoulder, Whole, Australian, Separable Lean and Fat, 1/8'' Fat, Cooked Add Lamb Shoulder, Whole, Australian, Separable Lean and Fat, 1/8'' Fat, Cooked to Favorites
1 ounce(s)
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     84
Potatoes, Sweet, Baked, Peeled
Potatoes, Sweet, Baked, Peeled Add Potatoes, Sweet, Baked, Peeled to Favorites
0.7 item(s)
edit | copy | delete
     72
Olive Oil, Extra Virgin
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0.1 tablespoon(s)
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     12
Prunes, Dried
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3 item(s)
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     68
Oil, Cod Liver
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0.3 tablespoon(s)
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     37
Rice Cake, Brown, Plain
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1.5 item(s)
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     52
Milk, Rice, Original
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1 fluid ounce(s)
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     15
Salmon, Pink, with Bone and Liquid, Canned, No Salt
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0.1 item(s)
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     63
Peanut Butter, Organic
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0.3 tablespoon(s)
edit | copy | delete
     30
Peanut Butter, Organic
Peanut Butter, Organic Add Peanut Butter, Organic to Favorites
3 tablespoon(s)
edit | copy | delete
     300
DOLE Raspberries, Frozen
DOLE Raspberries, Frozen Add DOLE Raspberries, Frozen to Favorites
1 cup(s)
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     70
BIRDS EYE Baby Sweet Peas, Bag
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0.75 cup(s)
edit | copy | delete
     78


JJ.....I think it's all the Edit-Copy-Deletes that you are eating....look at them.....they fill you up without any calories....lol

No but seriously....yes you would have trouble with nuts anyway being part B. I appreciate the patience it must take to sort things out as an AB. I am still sorting as well due to being an Explorer with a slow liver, and many family members having a history of mental illness. And I do not Swami.

I think a big smoothie twice a day could sneak in what you wanted to add.

Do you think your thyroid is in balance? Do you think your metabolism could be too high?

Do you exercise a lot or too much?


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No no I'm just kidding.  I am starting to learn this I think.  And your words are very encouraging!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Thank you.  When my pastor gave me this challenge about eating 2k calories a day, it got me thinking.  My mind thought:  "You know, I may have problems or pain eating food, and I may not, but I WILL have problems not eating enough.  So, isn't the first one the better choice?  I mean, even if some foods do mess with me, I'd rather eat than starve to death.  So....  I think it helped my mind shift a little.  Or a lot.  And I think the thought process is helping.  And then there is the whole if you eat too much fat you'll have a heart attack thinking that I think is deep in my mind somewhere.  But I'm like doing the opposite.  Which isn't good for your heart either.  Starving it.  Then there is the whole thing, will eating too much stop me up.  Well, it's probably better to go every 2 days and figure out some enzymes to help or probioitics.  Instead of just not eating to keep it all cleared up.  So yeah, much of this is in my mind.


Awesome attitude!  Changing your thinking can be a powerful tool - difficult, but powerful.  If a thought pattern doesn't produce benefits, ditch it.  The one that is chosen to replace it may not always be right either, but that's life; it's a process.  If what you think you need to do is something that you're afraid of, you just have to ask yourself what the worst outcome could be.  And that's exactly what you've already done.


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Thank you briny.  You're right.  And for me at this point, I could go down more, but I'm so low the only way I want to look is up.  Meaning, my weight is really low enough that I just have to start thinking about ways to go up.  Passionately.  Or aggressively.  

Seraffa, I don't really have a problem with nuts.  I love them.  It's easier for me to down a cup of walnuts or almonds or something.  But for some reason a nut butter is just to rich to me in large amounts.   And yeah, those edit deletes are really just fillers.  I'll have to bypass them.     Is there a connection to mental illness and sluggish livers?  I'm a Nomad with many explorer traits and I wonder if that isn't why I've been kind of crazy in the head lately.  Well, actually for a long time.  Heh!  


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Ugh.  I'm averaging around 1500 calories.  I need a few items to shoot me up some.


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Don't fear the fat!   As long as they're "healthy fats", they're good for you, good for your heart, and contain over twice as many calories per gram as carbs or protein (although you'd still also need the protein and especially carbs for weight gain).

does the calorie counter your using also calculate macronutrients?


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I don't think so.  What are macronutrients?   Yeah, I've been trying to up my fats.  Today I'm actually going to try some butter in my oatmeal I think.  It's a neutral, but whatever.  I have been trying to up my olive oil intake, as it was like nil.  I didn't even like cooking much with it.  But I think I need to rethink all that for sure.  


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If you have any of the health book series, you might have noticed that what are normally considered neutral foods (maybe even some avoids) become beneficial under certain heath conditions. I think it might be helpful to view all fats as beneficial for you now.

Years ago, when my cholesterol was very low, my naturopath said to me, "Well... you  know how to remedy this, don't you? Eat eggs and bacon." I said, "WHAT!!! Eat bacon??? Are ya kidding me???" I hadn't eaten any kind of fatty meat like that for years and was sure I would get violently ill from it. Well, guess what - not only did I not have any reaction to eating bacon and sausage... I actually started to feel better. It wasn't that the bacon and sausage were necessarily good for me... but they did help to raise my cholesterol, and that was very good for my health.

Now I'm not saying to eat bacon and sausage... but perhaps begin to start thinking of fats as medicine - it's what you need now, in the short term, and after you gain some weight, have more energy and feel better, you can re-evaluate what fats are best to keep in your diet.


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I don't think so.  What are macronutrients?   Yeah, I've been trying to up my fats.  Today I'm actually going to try some butter in my oatmeal I think.  It's a neutral, but whatever.  I have been trying to up my olive oil intake, as it was like nil.  I didn't even like cooking much with it.  But I think I need to rethink all that for sure.  


Awesome   What about ghee instead of butter?  Is it rated higher?

Macronutrients are just fats, carbs, and protein.  I just thought it might be useful for you to see how much of each you're getting each day.


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Well, ghee is rated higher and I had made a bunch of it up.  But I'm having a mental problem with it.  It was a little softer than the other times, and I'm not real crazy about the fact that it's been sitting out on my countertop.  It's been how we've always done it, but I'm going through this phase of questioning all kinds of germy type things and I'm not sure how I feel about leaving it out like that.   Next time I make some I'll put it in the fridge.


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I got 1844 calories yesterday!!!! All good, healthy foods.  

I still need to try some more high calorie stuff.  I need to drink more juice instead of all water I think.  Or rice milk.  But some say that you can't count them as water.  But I would think the liquid in them counts for something.  What do you guys think about that?  Maybe I'll start another thread about that.


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Awesome!

Drinking stuff is an easy way to get calories because it doesn't feel like eating.  Add some smoothies maybe?


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Saturday I went over 2000 slightly and last night was 1934.  It's getting better.  I'm not sure where I should stop.  Maybe 2500?  I need to gain.


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I'm still not knowing how to break 2000 regularly.  I've dipped down to 1800 something last night and I'll probably be somewhere around there today.  If I eat a little bit of chocolate it helps.  But I don't plan on doing that every day.  Eh?  

Yesterday I tried to eat a little bit of this Date bar that is made locally.  It's super delicious, but it's like eating pure sugar and I only ate a quarter of it.  And it's not that big.  

Maybe drinking some rice milk or juices.  I've yet to try that.  But upping the portion of my grains is helping.  I was eating a measly amount at one time.  Well, tonight I ate a 1/2 cup or maybe just a hair less of dry rice, cooked of course.  But that's got quite a calorie punch.  I used to do this a couple of years ago.  And then I started eating these measly little portions.  I'm not sure why.  And now I'm getting it up to where it should be again.  I'm not going over my swami either.


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It's a good idea not to eat anything "plain"; always add stuff - oil or ghee to veggies, nut butters to breads/crackers, etc.

I havn't yet read this thread to the end, so I have no idea if this makes any sense here, but I'd like to share what "happened" to me yesterday morning.

Usually I have for breakfast 2 scrambled eggs in olive oil + a lot of supps, and I am very pleased. If still hungry, I add rice cakes, nut butter etc., sometimes veggies and an apple.

Yesterday, after finishing the scrambled egg procedure, I suddenly made up my mind and prepared, for the first time, a pancake of 1egg and quinoa flour, no additions, in almond oil - the excess of oil I remove from the almond butter jar and keep aside. Suddenly, I realized how hungry I'd been! This complementary dish fixed me for the rest of the morning.



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Is the deli meat turkey 100% turkey?
Most deli meats have wheat, modified starches and those nasty nitrates & mineral salts... not judging or anything, once in a while would not hurt - but if you are eating deli meats everyday maybe swap it for something else high calorie - chocolate even?  

(I am a gatherer trying to pad out a little myself, I just had 2 slices of rice bread with butter, macadamia butter and melted chocolate on top - decadent but it hit the spot lol.)

As suggested, I also hide stuff in smoothies - oils, powders etc...
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I just had 2 slices of rice bread with butter, macadamia butter and melted chocolate on top - decadent
Mmmmm.... Yummi! Decadent? Never!   Just fully compliant and a tremendous source of pleasure. Bless Him who made me a Gatherer.  



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I'm still not knowing how to break 2000 regularly
If you take natural dates instead, up to 2-3 daily, some kinds are not so sweet, but they'll do the work.

Some organic fruit juices are diamonds and harmless in the right quantity and will help a lot.



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Ee Dan
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1.5 rice cakes is very very little.... I buy them in packs of 12 and they disappear quickly enough.... That's how I gained 2 kg recently.



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