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Bibibabubi
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When I switched my handedness from right to left since I was born left handed but was trained to use my right hand by my parents, my Genotype was switched from Gatherer to a Explorer 40%.

While I know that it's common to switch Genotypes based on the quality and quantity of information we put in, I was left a bit puzzled when I read the Explorer profile.

I am sensitive to dust and animal fur and rather often, I do get a hive or two on my face, arms, body, etc. I have occasional asthma. These are the parts that resonate with me in the Explorer. I'm not sensitive to medicine however and neither do I have anemia or marrow issues.

On the other hand, I was told that I have a slow metabolic rate by personal trainers. My blood sugar is unstable hence eating dinner for breakfast actually helped in regulating it. I no longer have nausea, crankiness, dizziness when I partake my next meal too late. I have been overweight for most of my life. And I have borderline high blood pressure. Sigh.

I can give the Explorer SWAMI diet a go but will the Explorers out there tell me what defines an Explorer? I feel so torn between the 2!

I'm sure like everyone out there, I am a hybrid of two or more Genotypes. I just want some clarity because while I am nodding and agreeing with the Gatherer profile, the Explorer profile just leaves my head scratching.


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I"m pretty sure the Genotype book says you can only be one genotyoe but people do switch based on what SWAMI says.     
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I am a definite mix between both these GT's I have environmental sensitivies yet am also a slow metabolic type etc etc... My advice is to choose between what you know your body responds to between the two lists
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Thanks for your quick replies!

Possum, when I look through the Gatherer and Explorer's lists, I think there isn't much significant differences... except for some mushrooms and that most cheeses are out for me, even feta. *sniff* On the other hand, I get my sweet potatoes back.

One more question... as I am stuck with my weight loss, should I cut out fruits from my diet? The challenge was that when I was on O BTD, I was craving for sweet stuff like cakes, chocs. Or should I just follow SWAMI recommendations?


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& almonds?
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Unfortunately everything to do with almonds is an avoid except for almond oil which is a neutral.

In fact all nuts are avoids or black dot avoids except for Chinese chestnuts which is a neutral.


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One point to bear in mind is that in SWAMI the GenoType label is just something SWAMI starts from.  The diet recommended by SWAMI should not match that in the book.

In the early stage of SWAMI processing it looked at how well the Explorer profile matched you. About 40% of the profile matched you.  That means the majority of the standard Explorer profile does not apply to you.

Since only a piece of the Explorer profile applies, SWAMI made additional passes to determine what to do about the characteristics that did not match and foods that matched your actual profile were selected. While some food ratings will match the book explorer ratings others will not.





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Thanks! That is illuminating to know!

I do have a question though. Since switching to BTD then now SWAMI, I realised that I rarely feel hungry. Should I skip a meal when I don't feel hungry or as what my naturopath say, I should eat, regardless, 3 meals a day with protein the size of my palm?

Would skipping a meal affect my weight loss?


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Imo - Depends what you ate at the last meal & what typically happens to your blood sugar... & which meal you are skipping & why
Usually skipping a meal can effect a Gatherer's ability to lose weight because of their tendency & ability to slow their metabolism & easily store fat (feast or famine response)
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Ok typically I would not feel hungry for lunch. I would have a hearty breakfast of beef and vegs or a salad with tuna and my blood sugar is ok. I don't feel dizzy, nausea or cranky during lunchtime.

Lunch typically is a salad.

However I was told by my naturopath to stop taking a salad for breakfast and instead, use BTD O protein powder mixed with compliant fruit juice or rice milk.  


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Bibibabubi, I totally relate to how you feel.  I measured as a Gatherer in the advanced calculator even though I relate more to Explorer.  I have the caffeine sensitivity, environmental & medicine allergies, low WBC... you name it, I react to it.  Also, I am not "padded", even at my heaviest weight.  I followed the Gatherer diet & did well on the food choices, but now that I've done SWAMI, I'm 44% Explorer.  So, I'm back to where I figured I'd be in the first place!  

C_Sharp explained it well.  Not all of the Explorer profile fits me either, but the sensitivities, low WBC & fingerprints bumped me into Explorer.  If I change my leg space to andric instead of neutral, I become 45% Hunter!


Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again!
Goal weight acheived!!  Woo Hoo!!!!
DH of 18 yrs. O+, DS 17yo O, DS 5yo O, not sure on the boys' RH status.

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My Swamie Explorer diet has tons of foods and diversity. I focus on the diamonds with a few neutrals thrown in.

Explorer have trouble with Phase 1 & Phase 2 of liver detoxing. A few Explorers that I personally know have no gallbladders, myself included. Don't know what the percentage is on this blog though.
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How much do the actual food lists vary from the Explorer version of SWAMI and the Gatherer version of SWAMI? My guess is that they don't vary all that much, and  both SWAMI food lists vary greatly from the diets outlined in the GTD book.

I'd go ahead and follow SWAMI portion size reccomendations, at least for a couple of months. You can play around with cutting back on fruits if you don't lose weight following SWAMI "as is."

I also don't see what the  big deal is if you eat 3 meals a day or 2, or why it matters if you have a big breakfast and a small lunch rather than the opposite. I can understand the value of protien powders if you're "too busy to eat right" but it seems counter-intuitive to use protein powder to replace whole foods in your diet.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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Beachgirl, when I read the GTD book, I felt that I'm truly a Gatherer. I'm padded but am also larger boned and weigh more than I look. Hence my surprise when I'm now an Explorer! Though yes it's only a label and the food lists are more important.

Ruthiegirl, you hit the nail on the head for me! Actually it was because I have high blood pressure which my naturopath suspected is due to my adrenal glands not working well hence he didn't want me to skip a meal and eat more protein. And yeah I think the SWAMI Gatherer and Explorer diet don't differ much actually.

I'll probably balance between the protein powder and stir fries for breakfast and skip lunch only if I feel really stuffed.


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Quoted from Dianne
My Swamie Explorer diet has tons of foods and diversity. I focus on the diamonds with a few neutrals thrown in.

Explorer have trouble with Phase 1 & Phase 2 of liver detoxing. A few Explorers that I personally know have no gallbladders, myself included. Don't know what the percentage is on this blog though.


Oh could you elaborate more on Phase 1 and 2 of liver detoxing?



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Read the monographs!  Pay attention to the psychological/personality aspects.

Gatherer: http://www.4yourtype.com/gatherer.asp

Explorer: http://www.4yourtype.com/explorer.asp

I have urged some people on facebook to read the Explorer monograph, and the genius that is in the writing has conviced them that they are Explorers and confirmed them in the opinion that they should learn more about the diet.

You can lead an Explorer to water ....  


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Quoted from Bibibabubi
Thanks! That is illuminating to know!

I do have a question though. Since switching to BTD then now SWAMI, I realised that I rarely feel hungry. Should I skip a meal when I don't feel hungry or as what my naturopath say, I should eat, regardless, 3 meals a day with protein the size of my palm?

Would skipping a meal affect my weight loss?


I say eat when you are hungry. Just my opinion.

Melissa


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Nomad with Celiac. Just say, "No" to gluten. White lines, no more!
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paul, it was the first thing I read when I got my SWAMI and was tested as Gatherer then later Explorer. I'm actually looking for more first person accounts on how Explorer folks are like.


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as an explorer... with a large number of explorer family & friends... these are some of the traits that i see...

  • intelligent and "smart"... tends to be in either technical or creative fields... or a technically creative field... or a creatively technical field   needs to do both creative pursuits as well as intellectual pursuits. excellent problem solvers.

    definitely marches to their own drum

    tends to be a socially-adept introvert (needs their space, but likes to socialize too), does not have a huge social circle... explorers generally do not have 1000 FB friends, but can do very well in networking situations. Can connect with almost anyone if they want to.

    explorers generally do not like having people come into their space. for example... all of the explorers i know don't like to entertain in their homes... they would rather go somewhere else...whether it is someone else's home, a new restaurant, a pub, a park, w/e

    has more allergies and sensitivities than the average... whether it is to food or personal care items or environmental (like grass, dust etc) or to chemicals, etc...some would classify them as a hypochondriac, in tune with their bodies.

    is very in tune with the world and their people... very intuitive, almost psychic in a way... if something has happened to someone they care about, they almost always know it, among other things, sometimes its just general moments of knowing what the other person is thinking or wanting, etc

    abstract thinkers... less linear, more like a web (or like the radiating ripples in a pond when you toss a stone in)... makes uncommon leaps between ideas and concepts. Puts together pieces of information in an unusual way. has probably "invented" something at some point in their life

    very sensitive to being in balance...if something is "not right" in their world,... they no longer sleep well, eating becomes an issue, they become cranky and moody

    gallbladder/liver issues, or bladder/kidney(UTI) issues, or both... and a lot... can be chronic when out of balance.

    I know explorers who struggle with their weight and explorers who don't, but i have noticed that explorers, when out of balance, do gain some weight... and the weight gain tends to be evenly distributed, not so much localized. For example... some women gain a lot in their hips and thighs... not explorers, their weight gain seems to be every where, but they don't look padded (think Elvis when he was young...or Russell Crowe...they look padded even when slim)... there is still a vague gangliness about them.

    explorers like to experiment... whether it is with food, cooking, work, creative pursuits, sex, new hobbies or activities, and so on... they are pretty much always willing to try something at least once. They will have entertaining stories to tell you about the time the tried making nut loaf, or the first time they butchered a deer, or when they decided to buy a stick-shift vehicle even though they didn't know how to drive one, etc

    explorers are not very conventional, all the explorers i know have some kind of a "different" relationship... where the husband stays at home with the kids, or a cross border relationship, they decided not to have kids, a long distance relationship, some sort of family disownment, etc. Also -  i don't know if there are stats on this kind of thing, but i know a disproportionate of LGBTs who are explorers.

    explorers are terrible at keeping in touch with people - unless it is work related! Some of my non-explorer family members get mad at me sometimes when i go a couple of months without calling... but i lose track of the time.

    directionally challenged! my honey laughs at me all the time for this one... we'll be driving somewhere and he'll say, "the purple house on the right" and i am busy looking at the left side of the street saying "but love, there IS NO purple house here"

    looks younger than they really are.

    responds well to exercise.

    does not "go along" with the crowd very well. Tends to be a bit of a boat rocker. Bucks the system, tries to find new and better ways to do things. Very efficient. Very goal oriented.  Does not like to be managed. Is better off being a manager, self employed, or working alone or with a small group where they can come and go as needed.

    very independent...almost stubbornly so! lol

    has a tendency to live in their heads when things are not going well or not in balance.

    hypersensitivity - all the senses and the emotions too. Car headlights are always too bright, some city's water is too chloronated or too salty, the neighbours house smells like cabbage, what on earth is the piercing shriek!! etc (I always thought this was a nonnie thing, but one of my half brothers who is an explorer, but not a nonnie, is like this too, so it's gotta be an explorer thing)

    Every explorer i know gets migraines... and over stimulation of the senses can trigger one... in addition to food triggers and weather triggers, etc (human barometers)

    when they set their minds to something, it always gets done.

    can quote or recite various random items like passages from books, commercials, lines from movies, songs, etc... often at inopportune moments

    explorers like puzzles... and they like big words... and the outdoors and outdoor activities.


these are just some of the things i have noticed in my explorer people and myself. My guy thinks the directionally challenged thing is really funny. He has also noted that while i struggle with directions, i am almost always right with the time (i don't wear a watch). Although... i have a strange relationship with time. If you ask me, i know what the time is, but i often lose track of it, especially when it gets into the longer periods of time (ie, i am shocked to discover it has been over 6 weeks since i last emailed my best friend... i should take care of that!)

i hope this was helpful Bibi!


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Wow zenphoenix that describes me almost absolutely to a tee!!! All except the migraines...I have never had one in my life - in fact have been able to just about to count on one hand the number of headaches I have had in my entire life...
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Very good, zenphoenix!  That's me, too, except for migraines.  Guess I know what the rest of my SWAMI genotype is!  



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Man, the more I read about Explorers, the more I wonder why I'm not one! I'm guessing it's the diabetes in my family (including my own bout with GD) that's keeping the "gatherer" label on my SWAMI. Yeah, I also have trouble losing weight, but frankly the weight isn't really a problem compared to the numerous sensitivities that rule my life. I can deal with being a size 16; it's much harder to deal with getting headaches whenever I smell synthetic perfumes and feeling incredibly ill whenever I walk too close to a chlorinated swimming pool, etc.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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Yeah I agree ruthiegirl, although my reactions aren't usually getting headaches I just resurrected an old thread on "Gatherer & perfume fragrance" as I was reflecting on the 2 years+ of exposure at work to essential oils...especially re the foggy head & recurring hives, which become boils!! These are now scars  , as they rarely got a chance to completely heal (delicate post menopausal skin)

Since I am currently off work (but still at home) I am totally amazed at the "coincidental" recovery I have experienced inside a week, as every other time I have been off work I have also been on holidays & usually out of the country...so had often thought I was just allergic to my house or NZ lol
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Zenphoenix - well done! I got migraines for a while in my late teens through into my twenties and then it dwindled and disappeared in my thirties. But for a while when going through a huge cleansing crisis not long ago they resurfaced and I thought - "Oh God no!"
Now they are gone!

My eyes have always been sensitive to lights; when I had a job for a few years and would walk home on a busy street I would have to wear my sunglasses even after sunset because the car headlights felt like they were going right through me. That is an awful feeling; the one good thing about me is that I don't care what people think of me when I have to do what I have to do to survive...so if I walk around with my sunglasses at night if on busy streets, I really don't feel self-conscious. It's our survival skills kicking in.
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Anyway it is a movie star thing to do
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Zenphoenix, amazingly detailed description! A lot of the personality characteristics sound like the INFJ showing through. INFJ's also have a streak of social activism and are known to stand-up in life changing and purposeful ways to injustice as creative humanitarians. Do explorer's have that sensitivity or re-activity?


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Quoted from David
INFJ's also have a streak of social activism and are known to stand-up in life changing and purposeful ways to injustice as creative humanitarians. Do explorer's have that sensitivity or re-activity?
This one does Well to injustice dealt to me...

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  thanks everyone. it was fun to write up and think about my explorer peeps!

I can't believe i forgot to include survival skills!! thanks Dianne! I think that and "adapting to change" is another common explorer trait.

as for David's question... that is a really good one. I know for me i do have that social activism streak. It was super strong when i was younger...it's in better balance now that i am older. I'm not sure about my other explorer family and friends though...yes on at least one of them...beyond that i don't know. That's a really good question.

It's interesting about the cross over traits. I know for me a lot of Nomad rings true, but when i tried following that diet, it did not work!! I guess it's all about proportions, at 50% explorer (SWAMI calculated, just based on my known traits) my nomadness just doesn't stand a chance!

makes me wonder though, when someone is expressing say 35 - 40% of one type, what is the other 60-65% percent? and how does it affect things over all?


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Hi, I would like to say that I have realy enjoyed reading all these comments,,, I am a b+ blood type with traits toward nomad  but i do niot handle the diet well... I have landed in all sorts of trouble ,, I also lean in great lengths toward the explora and have tryed that diet , which seems to agree alot more ,,,,Im so confused and I believe I should try swamie but ! reading all these comments i think that I might stick to explora for a while ,,, I wish you all well! there is one thing forshore ,,,  Im alot happier on this diet than off it....
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Lindaanne - Hello! The diet SWAMI report will give you much more variety of foods. It will also take into account your blood type. This Explorer O and her Hunter husband both get chicken whereas B's are to avoid it.

SWAMI for Explorer is great and the diet in the GTD is very limiting, so if you are pleased with the GTD book food choices, you'll be thrilled with was SWAMI gives you.  
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