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Patty H
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I have never studied lectins in any kind of detail so I am not really qualified to say what kind of humoral response would occur after exposure to lectins.

I have worked as a blood bank technologist for several years at a large University and you really don't work with lectins that often. Not as you might think anyway.

As I said earlier, T cell reactions, the cellular immune response, may play a role as well even more so than our antibody responses toward food allergies or food sensitivities.

Sorry, I wish I could be more help here.


Please don't apologize.  You have been tremendously helpful and I am greatly appreciative of the time and effort you spent in explaining my results.  Thank you very much  


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Lola, thank you for sharing these links.  Fascinating!  I have to admit when I posted this thread, I did not know there was a difference between the IgG reactions and lectin reactions until Dr. D posted his first post.  I certainly have learned a lot  

Also, I realized you asked about my dental work and I did not respond.  I had an infection in a tooth that apparently died a slow, pain-free death.  I had to have that taken care of before I could start the amalgam removal.  I was supposed to start the amalgam removal this past Monday, but we had a freak snow storm and the dental clinic had no power as of Monday morning, so my appointment had to be cancelled.  I am now scheduled to start the amalgam removal on Nov 8th.  Unfortunately, I have so much dental work to be done that I might need to spread it out over three years because of the cost.    Although I have dental insurance, it only pays for so much.    I need several crowns as well and that is where most of the huge costs come in.  Dental insurance only covers 50%.


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This may be entirely off the wall, Patty, but have other members of your family been bothered with dental problems?


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I am not sure.  I know my brother told me yesterday that he has several fillings/crowns in his molars, but I don't know about my other two siblings.  My mother will be 93 on Friday and she has all her own teeth and they are in great shape.  I don't know if any of my other siblings are nonnies, either.

I DO know of the link between bad dental health and heart disease, if that is why you are asking?


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Lola, thank you for sharing these links.  Fascinating!  I have to admit when I posted this thread, I did not know there was a difference between the IgG reactions and lectin reactions until Dr. D posted his first post.  I certainly have learned a lot  

Also, I realized you asked about my dental work and I did not respond.  I had an infection in a tooth that apparently died a slow, pain-free death.  I had to have that taken care of before I could start the amalgam removal.  I was supposed to start the amalgam removal this past Monday, but we had a freak snow storm and the dental clinic had no power as of Monday morning, so my appointment had to be cancelled.  I am now scheduled to start the amalgam removal on Nov 8th.  Unfortunately, I have so much dental work to be done that I might need to spread it out over three years because of the cost.    Although I have dental insurance, it only pays for so much.    I need several crowns as well and that is where most of the huge costs come in.  Dental insurance only covers 50%.


I feel your pain. I got two new crowns and a new porcelain type filling last year and this year. After all that, I am greatful to have a lot of the amalgam removed from my mouth. But I still have a lot more amalgam than I  would like to have.  


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When you have the ability to break food down to the smallest molecules, very little gets into the blood that the body has to mount a clean up response to. If you have variety where you aren't eating the same food day in and day out, it's a good thing. When you are getting all your beneficials, it's a happy day because you have all the building blocks you need for good health. --- IF you have the ability to digest them. Many people have compromised digestion/assimilation issues with either fats, carbs, or proteins or any combination. This is where the right digestive enzyme can bridge the gap.

When you have a leaky gut (because of lectin damage, celiac, etc. -- think Dr. D said there are 100's of reasons), stuff gets through and it's no good. Avoiding lectins in this situation would be extra important.

Gluten isn't digestable by the human body. We're ok when it passes through and we don't have the bad gut critters having a feast. When it leaks into the bloodstream and travels to let's say, the brain, not a happy day.

Glad to not be a gluten head anymore.

There are other things related to WGA if you care to search this site.

And glad to learn about 'Vitamin G'-- grounding to the Earth. Improves digestion and bowel flora. A big AhHa moment. God brought man from the earth-- important that he is connected to it--great design. http:/www.earthing.com (this is my most recent and easiest soapbox).


This is my understanding at this point in brief of things somewhat related to this post-- thought I'd put the 2 cents in.  


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Quoted from Captain_Janeway


I feel your pain. I got two new crowns and a new porcelain type filling last year and this year. After all that, I am greatful to have a lot of the amalgam removed from my mouth. But I still have a lot more amalgam than I  would like to have.  


I hear you!  I could probably add a small room onto my house with all the money I will spend on my teeth.  Given the heart disease in my family, however, and the fact that I am highly toxic in lead and mercury, I need to get it done.  I plan to manage the process depending upon my financial ability to pay.  I sure do wish I could get it all done right away, but it is really cost prohibitive  


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When you have the ability to break food down to the smallest molecules, very little gets into the blood that the body has to mount a clean up response to. If you have variety where you aren't eating the same food day in and day out, it's a good thing. When you are getting all your beneficials, it's a happy day because you have all the building blocks you need for good health. --- IF you have the ability to digest them. Many people have compromised digestion/assimilation issues with either fats, carbs, or proteins or any combination. This is where the right digestive enzyme can bridge the gap.

When you have a leaky gut (because of lectin damage, celiac, etc. -- think Dr. D said there are 100's of reasons), stuff gets through and it's no good. Avoiding lectins in this situation would be extra important.

Gluten isn't digestable by the human body. We're ok when it passes through and we don't have the bad gut critters having a feast. When it leaks into the bloodstream and travels to let's say, the brain, not a happy day.

Glad to not be a gluten head anymore.

There are other things related to WGA if you care to search this site.

And glad to learn about 'Vitamin G'-- grounding to the Earth. Improves digestion and bowel flora. A big AhHa moment. God brought man from the earth-- important that he is connected to it--great design. http:/www.earthing.com (this is my most recent and easiest soapbox).


This is my understanding at this point in brief of things somewhat related to this post-- thought I'd put the 2 cents in.  


Interesting!  I have difficulty breaking down dietary fat.  Could an enzyme be taken specifically for that purpose?  I know that most enzymes are broad spectrum.  Could I get one more specific to fat?

The reason I ask is that I have been advised to stop eating some of my diamond foods such as beef and beef products, due to my inability to break down dietary fat, I have been told I can consume lamb, but that may change.  I am not sure about the other red meats such as buffalo, veal, venison, etc.  I can no longer eat sardines, herring or oysters, as I had a reaction to them, so I am basically looking at fish and chicken, with lamb once in a while.  I would love to be able to consume beef if I can be sure to aid in the digestion of the fat.


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When you have the ability to break food down to the smallest molecules, very little gets into the blood that the body has to mount a clean up response to. If you have variety where you aren't eating the same food day in and day out, it's a good thing. When you are getting all your beneficials, it's a happy day because you have all the building blocks you need for good health. --- IF you have the ability to digest them. Many people have compromised digestion/assimilation issues with either fats, carbs, or proteins or any combination. This is where the right digestive enzyme can bridge the gap.

When you have a leaky gut (because of lectin damage, celiac, etc. -- think Dr. D said there are 100's of reasons), stuff gets through and it's no good. Avoiding lectins in this situation would be extra important.

Gluten isn't digestable by the human body. We're ok when it passes through and we don't have the bad gut critters having a feast. When it leaks into the bloodstream and travels to let's say, the brain, not a happy day.

Glad to not be a gluten head anymore.

There are other things related to WGA if you care to search this site.

And glad to learn about 'Vitamin G'-- grounding to the Earth. Improves digestion and bowel flora. A big AhHa moment. God brought man from the earth-- important that he is connected to it--great design. http:/www.earthing.com (this is my most recent and easiest soapbox).


This is my understanding at this point in brief of things somewhat related to this post-- thought I'd put the 2 cents in.  


Just to add to this, I had some very comprehensive testing that measures things like malabsorption markers, bacterial/fungal/yeast dysbiosis markers and digestive support, among many other things.  I don't have absorption or digestive issues.  I do, however, have some bacterial/fungal/yeast issues that need to be addressed.  I have to have some more testing (which I referenced earlier in this thread) but I need to wait until my finances allow for the testing.  Between all my dental work and the different testing I have been doing, I have stretched my pocketbook to the limit for now.  Hopefully within a month or two I can afford the final test.


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I wasn't breaking down fat. Followed the pattern of craving it, then avoiding it. Lipase is my friend. I take a multiple plant based enzyme from Loomis. I was on Formula 2 for awhile, but am switching to 30. If there is a practioner in your area, they can do a personalized workup for you. The only thing I didn't care for about number 2 was the fenugreek was a black dot on SWAMI and I haven't been getting the variety during a period of transition and stress. Fenugreek is detoxifying. I'm thinking it was black dot on SWAMI for 30 days because I'm an Explorer and detoxing a toxic person too quick (and my lymph was congested) isn't a good thing. But that's a random guess. I was on one from Premier Research for about a month or so and seemed to do better with that in the meanwhile. Liking the basic 30 now. Loomis is the company that basically developed the digestive enzyme supplements. The other companies were started after in cahoots with former employees. Loomis ran them all through on real people with real issues and tweaked along the way to see what worked. Practical observation has validity in absence of double blind studies, as we know which are sometimes impractical.  

I took the first Loomis course. Completely sold on digestive plant based enzymes given in an individualized way.

A little lecithin with a fatty meal is also good. The bile has to degrease it so you can absorb it. If you have thick bile, sometimes an issue.The lecithin degreases it. This is why it is helpful for people who have had their gallbladder removed (a medical travesty IMO). They have a constant drip but no deposit to squeeze out in times of need.

Water and salt are important to making bile. I think I told you I had been inadvertently avoiding salt (the good kind-- not table salt) for a long time.  

Also need to support the liver (dandelion is lovely) and probably do a detox recommended for Explorers castor oil/lemon/olive oil thing. I haven't done the detoxes, because I haven't made time for them. I'm changing things up after this big project is finished and going to focus on getting things in line health wise before I move on to other things that are in the inbox, so to speak.

Which reminds me-- I need to ground (and my computer tolerance must be up because no finger tingles) and I need to get on with things. Love to you all.  

Also, go see Dr. Nash in person if possible. Or the Shift that Dr. D runs if it's a monetary issue. A phone call is a last resort.


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Yeast is protective against mercury. This is also an issue with cellulase in digestive enzymes. It kills yeast internally or externally on contact. There is then the possibility that the mercury the yeast is bound to becomes free floating. It is a good idea to do something about that simultaneously.

Dr. D mentioned cilantro in a capsule when I was observing the Shift.

I really like that idea, especially for someone with fillings.You might search "mercury chelation" on this site for ideas.

He also mentioned that the integrity of the fillings is more important and that the challenge test is extremely sensitive and there are other issues with it. He's not a big fan of the test. People can get too worked up about it.

I could tell the difference when I got my tiny intact one out. Though I tend to be a supersensitive type. My husband said he noticed I was less irritable after. That wasn't the word he used, but it isn't appropriate here.

Train of thought, I am wondering if mercury resonates with frequency from computers-- EMF connection and I was spending many hours on the computer then. Interesting.

Best to you Patty, I'll be popping in now and then, but not on nearly as much as in the past.


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Thanks for all the great info, AKArtlover!  Really appreciate it!


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http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/new/9steps.htm

I've heard this person's name before...

I noticed
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Lipids (made from fatty acids) make up 60–80% of the central nervous system and need to be constantly replenished. Deficiency makes the nervous system vulnerable to the fat soluble metals, such as metallic mercury constantly escaping as odorless and invisible vapor evaporating from the amalgam fillings.


another puzzle piece. At that time, I was also low on fat intake. I now realize I wasn't digesting fats properly so they could be utilized efficiently.

Time to support my CNS bigtime.  


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You're welcome. Learning in the process of sharing.


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Digestive enzymes, like "Lypo Gold" by enzymedica are made specifically to target digesting fats and proteins.  Probiotics will help you break down your foods and so will cultured vegetables.  

Lamb is really really good.  I wouldn't let the fact that you're not currently breaking down proteins and fats change your whole diet completely.  I'm not sure how much meat you were eating, but everyone needs protein and fat.  Especially O's.  So, you just need help digesting it.  You may not do better eating more grains.  But it sounds to me like you haven't been eating grains, other than wheat, that are healthy for you up til now.  Which kind of has my scratching my head.  

And by the way, if you're not breaking down your fats and proteins, it IS a gut thing.  It may be genetic, but it still has to do with your gut.  What test showed you that, if you don't mind me asking, and by whom was it done?  I've had that done before too.  Mine was by Genova Diagnostics.


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Here is an article that gives information on lectins. It is given in a very simple way and from what I get out of it, you can't test if you are intolerant to lectins, well, you can but it's you doing your own work, trial and wait and see.
Hope it helps you out. For me, lectins are terrible, even though my IgG testing says they are fine. I sound "worse" off than you health wise so I see the damage immediately but less and less as I stay away from offending foods meaning, that they seem okay but if I over do it, watch out.
http://www.krispin.com/lectin.html


Thanks for the link, gardengirl.  I read it and noticed that he is not a fan of the Blood Type Diet or the idea that lectins are blood-type specific.  He states that the Blood Type Diet contains the second highest amount of food lectins of all the high protein diets  


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I am not sure.  I know my brother told me yesterday that he has several fillings/crowns in his molars, but I don't know about my other two siblings.  My mother will be 93 on Friday and she has all her own teeth and they are in great shape.  I don't know if any of my other siblings are nonnies, either.

I DO know of the link between bad dental health and heart disease, if that is why you are asking?


Yes, that is why I asked. There just seems to be a link somewhere, I just wish it was not costing you so much to find it.    However, maybe you're more like your mother than the others and will escape the heart problems they suffer. That is certainly my wish for you.


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Digestive enzymes, like "Lypo Gold" by enzymedica are made specifically to target digesting fats and proteins.  Probiotics will help you break down your foods and so will cultured vegetables.  

Lamb is really really good.  I wouldn't let the fact that you're not currently breaking down proteins and fats change your whole diet completely.  I'm not sure how much meat you were eating, but everyone needs protein and fat.  Especially O's.  So, you just need help digesting it.  You may not do better eating more grains.  But it sounds to me like you haven't been eating grains, other than wheat, that are healthy for you up til now.  Which kind of has my scratching my head.  

And by the way, if you're not breaking down your fats and proteins, it IS a gut thing.  It may be genetic, but it still has to do with your gut.  What test showed you that, if you don't mind me asking, and by whom was it done?  I've had that done before too.  Mine was by Genova Diagnostics.


First off, JJR, I wanted to say again that I have NOT been eating wheat, other than to add it back into my diet for two weeks prior to the IgG, IgE and IgA testing.  I did post that in this thread, but maybe you missed it.  All I said what that, according to the testing, I CAN eat wheat as I did not react to it.  Nor did I react to gluten.  I am not Celiac or gluten intolerant, but I have NOT beein eating wheat.  I do eat brown rice, rice cakes and quinoa.  I have some millet bread but I bought the loaf six months ago and have probably eaten two slices, so I don't eat a lot of grains, ESPECIALLY WHEAT!!!

I believe cultured veggies are out for O nonnies, although someone might say I am wrong on that.  I am basing that information on the fact that I cannot eat pickles or other similar foods.

I do take a probiotic daily.  According to the testing I had, my probiotic levels are excellent.

I have an SNP on one of the genes that controls cholesterol, which is why I have difficulty breaking down dietary fat.  Given my family history of heart disease, this makes total sense to me, so I DO need to change my diet to compensate for my genetic inability to break down fat or I may end up with heart disease, like the rest of my family members.  My testing was genetic testing, also done by Genova Diagnostics.


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I've never heard that cultured veggies were bad for O nonnies. I consume beet kvass regularly, and have been doing so for years. It doesn't make intuitive sense to me that I should get probiotics from a pill rather than from food, and if yogurt and kefir are avoids, that leaves cultured vegetables. I've gotten lazy and forgotten to drink the beet kvass, and my digestion defintiely suffers when that happens. It's clear that a source of probiotics is essential for continued good health.

Pickles are an avoid, but the rating for pickles in  BTD/GTD/SWAMI is for cucumber pickles, and  cucumbers are also an avoid. In the past few weeks, I've  been using polyflora O to start my beet kvass ferments; for years I was using wild strains of bacteria in my ferments rather than paying money for cultures.


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I've never heard that cultured veggies were bad for O nonnies. I consume beet kvass regularly, and have been doing so for years. It doesn't make intuitive sense to me that I should get probiotics from a pill rather than from food, and if yogurt and kefir are avoids, that leaves cultured vegetables. I've gotten lazy and forgotten to drink the beet kvass, and my digestion defintiely suffers when that happens. It's clear that a source of probiotics is essential for continued good health.

Pickles are an avoid, but the rating for pickles in  BTD/GTD/SWAMI is for cucumber pickles, and  cucumbers are also an avoid. In the past few weeks, I've  been using polyflora O to start my beet kvass ferments; for years I was using wild strains of bacteria in my ferments rather than paying money for cultures.


Thanks for sharing that.  It wasn't just pickles, but saurkraut, too, but obviously cabbage is an avoid, too.


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just learn to ferment your beneficial veggies and you ll all be fine!

use sea salt only.....it works!

we all know vinegar is a no no and veggies have been tested
so to each their own.....the more personalized the plan, the better


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I sent you a response on PM.  And fwiw, I didn't react to wheat on my IGg tests nor did they say I was celiac when or gluten sensitive when I was at mayo.  But my swami says no, except for sprouted wheat, so I just don't eat it.  I believe I'm better off for not.  At least all the yucky processed stuff.  I think if I could sprout my own wheat berries and learn to make bread out of it, it would be cool, but it's only neutrals.  So, I try to stick to the beneficials.  


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I sent you a response on PM.  And fwiw, I didn't react to wheat on my IGg tests nor did they say I was celiac when or gluten sensitive when I was at mayo.  But my swami says no, except for sprouted wheat, so I just don't eat it.  I believe I'm better off for not.  At least all the yucky processed stuff.  I think if I could sprout my own wheat berries and learn to make bread out of it, it would be cool, but it's only neutrals.  So, I try to stick to the beneficials.  


Yes - I agree.  I certainly don't plan to consume it often, but like I said, if I go to a restaurant and they have amazing bread, I may just try a slice.  I have no intention of making it a habit.  I have very good self-discipline, so I don't worry about not being able to stop eating it.  I rarely consumed wheat before the diet, except in the form of wheat beer, which I LOVE!!!  Maybe drinking your wheat doesn't count?  Just kidding  


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Hey, if you feel like it doesn't mess with you, I can totally understand it.  I believe I've heard Dr.D say it's more about eating the right stuff than avoiding the wrong stuff.  And if I wasn't dealing with health problems, I'd be much more apt to eat anything.  I'm hoping that eating well has helped me fight my problems to a better degree, than if I was gumming up my system with food that isn't good for me.  But even then it's hard to know.  I just know what stuff makes me feel lousy after eating it.  And most of that has to do with sugar.  But especially sugar and wheat together.  It just seems like a bad combo for me.  But then again, so is Ice Cream.  Bummer for me.  Hehhehehe.  Maybe someday I'll feel good enough to give in once in a while.


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Hey, if you feel like it doesn't mess with you, I can totally understand it.  I believe I've heard Dr.D say it's more about eating the right stuff than avoiding the wrong stuff.  And if I wasn't dealing with health problems, I'd be much more apt to eat anything.  I'm hoping that eating well has helped me fight my problems to a better degree, than if I was gumming up my system with food that isn't good for me.  But even then it's hard to know.  I just know what stuff makes me feel lousy after eating it.  And most of that has to do with sugar.  But especially sugar and wheat together.  It just seems like a bad combo for me.  But then again, so is Ice Cream.  Bummer for me.  Hehhehehe.  Maybe someday I'll feel good enough to give in once in a while.


JJR, I feel for you and for the many folks on this forum who are in a constant state of pain or discomfort.  I am fortunate that I do feel really good in general and when I do cheat, it does not bother me at all.  I do keep my cheating to a bare minimum.  I might cheat once a week, sometimes as little as once a month.  I eat no sugar or sweet stuff during the week, except for acceptable fruit.  I don't sweeten anything, even with compliant sweetener, so when I do cheat it is usually with ice cream, beer, white wine or cheese.  Once in a while I will eat some chocolate, but I even keep that to a minimum now.


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