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Spring
Thursday, October 27, 2011, 1:54am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Has anyone made Farmer's Cheese using this method:

"I think buttermilk works much better. Pour one-half gallon in a container and set it in a large pan of water. Let the water come to a boil and boil for ten minutes. Let sit until cooled. Maybe 2 hours. Drain in cheese cloth for several hours." Lola, do you think this would work?


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Well, now, since this Explorer is trying to get some legs under her, I think I am going to try the buttermilk method just to see what happens! Do I sound like an Explorer yet!?! I have to get the buttermilk first. I saved the other links just in case!


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http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Home-Made-Farmers-Cheese/Detail.aspx
difference between farmer's cheese and paneer

Farmers Cheese 1 gallon of milk, one lemon juiced and a pinch of salt
Paneer cheese 1 gallon of milk, one lemon juiced and no salt


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This is the cheese I regard as farmer's cheese. That's why I eat it, farmer's cheese should be neutral to me. It really is good, especially when sometimes I find unpasteurized cheese of goat's milk. And yes, cloudberry jelly with this - yummy!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leip%C3%A4juusto


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Quoted from Green Root
This is the cheese I regard as farmer's cheese. That's why I eat it, farmer's cheese should be neutral to me. It really is good, especially when sometimes I find unpasteurized cheese of goat's milk. And yes, cloudberry jelly with this - yummy!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leip%C3%A4juusto


It certainly looks good! What are cloudberries and where did they get their name?


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Black dots for me, I do not understand it :/ except they have some radiation from Tshernobyl.

Cloudberry is an orange, deep yellow or orange red berry, which grows in swamps. But they are becoming more and more rare, and that's why they are quite expensive.
Cloudberries have hard seeds like raspberries or blackberries - they are quite big. A marvellous aroma

I don't know the source of the name - many Finnish names of the cloudberry are not at all same. We use terms of "lakka", "hilla", "valokki", "suomuurain", never "pilvimarja"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubus_chamaemorus


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Well, it LOOKS like a cloud! What a beautiful berry! You're lucky to have these. What a shame that they are becoming rare.  


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Ok

I'm sorry, this thread should be about cheese but I led you to wrong track...

We have had also "arctic raspberry", "mesimarja" in Finnish, and the direct translation would be "nectarberry" (nectar here means nectar from flowers). It has become very rare already long time ago. I'm not sure whether I have ever tasted one fresh arctic raspberry... but its aroma is put in some sweet distilled liquors, like cloudberry's.

Yet I have to say that the seeds of cloudberry are big. The berry itself is usually not bigger than blackberry or a big raspberry.


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Well, lots of things go well with cheese! Say CHEESE and all sorts of other goodies come to mind!


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I love Farmers Cheese, one of my fav's... Since Mozzarella is the only cheese I can have, I stay away from Farmers cheese, but every once in a while I will sprinkle a little on my eggs.


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Spring ---- Did you try making Cheese from buttermilk?
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Spring ---- Did you try making Cheese from buttermilk?


No, the buttermilk was loaded with junk so I was not about to buy it!  Needless to say, I have not bought any buttermilk in MANY years. If a recipe called for it I simply used yogurt. I had no idea buttermilk had turned into basically a load of chemicals.  If we could get good, old-fashioned buttermilk I think it would work fine. Lola got that one right, for sure!! I got some organic milk that I haven't done anything with yet. On my plan now paneer cheese is the super duper - I didn't think there was all that much difference in that and farmer's cheese. I'll have to look at the recipe again. Anyway, I am definitely going to add some seasonings to this next batch because it has very little taste otherwise. I'm supposed to be able to eat mozzarella but the question as to whether I can remains to be seen. I love it though. I have eaten a little two days this week with lactase and haven't done too badly. So I have my fingers crossed!


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Quoted Text from Lola

http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Home-Made-Farmers-Cheese/Detail.aspx
difference between farmer's cheese and paneer

Farmers Cheese 1 gallon of milk, one lemon juiced and a pinch of salt
Paneer cheese 1 gallon of milk, one lemon juiced and no salt

Lola it is strange that SWAMI would make a difference between these two.  Makes me want to scratch my head!  


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yup, both make me scratch my head!!!!

frankly, I leave this molecular biology stuff entirely to Dr D and his expertise

once upon a time, when I tested as a gatherer, paneer and farmer were on my list, one beneficial, the other neutral.....I had inflammatory ear issues

now I know better......these are avoids

I am a believer!


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Most things I don't have a question about at all because of family history and my own idiosyncrasys - I just know they won't work for me, but I have found a way to "test" something if there is a question in my mind about it that has worked every time - so far. I just leave something off for a while and then try a little to see what happens. Being an Explorer may be one reason it works - simply because of the "reactionariness."  It might not for other types. Mostly, though, I spend my energy making sure that something that is beneficial for me won't make me sick! And the biggie, of course, is anything to do with a cow. Until I was around forty I never noticed any problem at all with beef, milk, etc.. But it all started catching up with me when I was forty-five. First to go was the milk and cheese. It was twelve years before the beef went just before I discovered the BTD. Yep, as you say, Lola, I am a believer! What throws me for a loop is the mess we are having to deal with in the commercial world of so-called "food." How many more ways are they going to figure out how to ruin it? I don't even need to get started on what passes for cottage cheese out there! Have some cheese with that salt, for instance!!!


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Lola, are you Hunter nowadays?

Yup, I don't test spelt anymore. It's neutral but I get very good without it. Although not tested coeliac, I'll leave gluten to those who dare to eat it.


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Quoted from Spring
Well, it LOOKS like a cloud! What a beautiful berry!


I agree! Really pretty!

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Quoted from Spring
Quoted Text from Lola

http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Home-Made-Farmers-Cheese/Detail.aspx
difference between farmer's cheese and paneer

Farmers Cheese 1 gallon of milk, one lemon juiced and a pinch of salt
Paneer cheese 1 gallon of milk, one lemon juiced and no salt

Lola it is strange that SWAMI would make a difference between these two.  Makes me want to scratch my head!  


The "farmer's cheese" I can find in local stores is made from cultured milk, no lemon, and is available both with and without salt. I tried to make farmer's cheese and ended up with quark (which I thought was a black dot, but is now listed as beneficial.) Then I found a recipe for "small curd cottage cheese" that involved cultured milk that was cooked before straining- and ended up with something very similar to the farmer's cheese at the store! I found it too fussy to make though, with the heating, then letting sit to culture, and THEN having to heat it again. Much easier to "warm up, culture 2 days, then strain without heating" method of quark or "heat, add lemon juice, strain, and be done with the whole project in an hour" method of making paneer. For now I'm doing better off all cheese.

All in all, I thought I could make my own cheese as an easy way to buy inexpensive milk at the store but follow SWAMI guidelines. It was a fun experiment,  but I didn't find it too practical for the long-term.


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Quoted from Lola

once upon a time, when I tested as a gatherer, paneer and farmer were on my list, one beneficial, the other neutral.....


Maybe the difference is because the cheese most people will use is what they buy in the store, so the ratings could be referring to those commercially made products.

I think that's true with some other foods, such as rice milk.



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Yeah, and I think we all know the quality of commercial products. I mean the usual quality of the "groceries" (they actually are often not FOOD in the real meaning).


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Not all ready-made products are "junk food." Here's the farmer's cheese I can get locally (and used to buy, until it became a black dot on SWAMI) http://www.friendshipdairies.com/products/farmer-cheese.html


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