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Gina
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Is the SWAMI user friendly?
I would like to know before purchasing it. If not, I won't use it & I will waste my money. Please advise.


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what i like about it is that the food list is oncimputer for you.. you can copy and with a little work make a good shopping list..

it has some other info but basically I see that as the biggest advantage..


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What is oncimputer???


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Once the SWAMI is filled out and run, it's very easy to follow. You get a PDF file that you can print out, which includes 3 charts of foods: beneficials, neutrals, and avoids. You also get a "wallet card" with beneficials on one side and avoids on the other (I printed that out, folded it in half, covered with clear packing tape, and keep it in my purse.) It also includes access to recipes and meal planning software online, but I don't personaly use that.

I find the SWAMI printout to be much easier to follow than the food lists in any of the books.

However, I'm not sure how hard it is to do the measuring and figure out how to set up SWAMI accurately. I got a SWAMI pro, which means that I went to a professional and she did all the measuring for me, and had her expert advice about which boxes to tick (we discussed my medical history and she entered the information in the program.)


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Quoted from Gina
What is oncimputer???


I think it was just a typo for "on the computer".  The list in swami is easier to visualize/anylize/utilize than the lists in the books, as Ruthie pointed out.


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If you are able to do all the measurements in the GenoType book,
running SWAMI is just a matter of typing all the measurements into
a form.

Filling out the SWAMI data entry form is much like filling out an online survey.

It takes a little time
to fill in all the fields,
but if you know all the information it is super easy.

You just fill in all the fields that you know and
at the bottom of the page click on the button to generate a diet plan.

If you do not know the values, the form is very difficult to complete.

Guessing does not work very well in SWAMI.

Th difficulty is not with running the software it is in accurately making the measurements and determining your family history.


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Gina
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I do not know my family history since I am adopted. Will I still be able to fill out the SWAMI and get the correct information. Also, as far as measurements, is this something my husband can help me with????  


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If you do not know family history just leave that section blank (Very easy!!)

The measurements are much easier with an assistant.  Spouse could be ideal for this role.


MIfHI                            I follow a SWAMI diet.
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Thank yo so much. I'm ready to order now! Woo Hoo!  


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The measurements are very simple - Hubs and I did ours and it took about half an hour for the both of us. I was a little intimidated at first too, but it's much easier than I was expecting it to be. Good luck - have fun with it!
     If you have any trouble, there are tutorials available on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....t=PL3CBB286B75CCBCF0



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....t=PL3CBB286B75CCBCF0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....t=PL3CBB286B75CCBCF0


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Several years ago I found the ER4YT book on a campsite and got interested.  I tried BTD for a while and definitely felt better - less indigestion and less aches and pains.  

I then got LR4YT and the cancer/arthritis/fatigue books - cancer is something everyone in my family gets, mum & gran had arthritis and I always seem to feel tired.  I wasn't sure the food changes between ER4YT and LR4YT/Typebase actually benefitted me when I tried them.

I also got the GTD book when it came out and got totally flummoxed, both by working out what type I am and by the differences in foods.  I'm still inclined to think ER4YT maybe worked best for me..............

However, between the extra confusion and the fact I am not good at sticking at anything long term, I lost interest and gave up for quite some time.......... and suffered for it!

I now have significant problems with digestion, which doctor thinks is probably IBS but still investigating..... I reckon wheat is part of the problem, but I struggle to eliminate foods one at a time to see which are causing issues and which aren't - coeliac blood test came back negative.  The other blood tests the doctor did came back within normal range except for ESR which was 38 which he said was slightly raised (no idea whether it is measured in same units in UK as elsewhere........)

I've put back on all the weight I lost about 9 years ago (about 55lbs or so)..........

I also have my aches and pains back with a vengeance - hip, knee, lower leg, hands, back, neck.

I am trying to get back to a way of eating which will help sort this digestive issue out as it isn't nice feeling like my insides are turning themselves inside out and appearing in company can be quite embarassing    

Losing a bit of weight wouldn't hurt either....

I'm just not sure how to tackle it....... Should I go back to where I started with ER4YT, use the updated LR4YT/Typebase which I wasn't sure about or go the whole hog and get SWAMI Express, which appeals but I have a number of reservations about it - cost, limited information to input, would I stick with it.......

So that leaves me with the following questions I think?
  • What sort of information would SWAMI like me to input?
  • What is the bare minimum of input information you need to get something useful out of SWAMI Express?
  • Would you recommend I go for it or go back to BTD?
  • Any suggestions to help me stick with what I end up doing?

Sorry for the long waffle  


  • Toyed with BTD from 2006
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I too had worried about some information which I didn't have. For one I haven't been to a doc. in over 10years, I do have some limited family history. I left the infor which most would have from their doc completely empty and only used the limited family info. I had.   If you have your personal information I thank that would be equal to or better than the family info.  I really feel like my swami is a good fit. I'm not very pc savy. The few question I had I got answered right away. I'm very pleased with it.


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Each of the diets has merit of it's own, but SWAMI is individualized for you alone (as you know). It asks for things such as height, gender, blood groups (ABO type, secretor, Rh) measurements, and such.

It also wants to know your family medical history along with your personal health history. It's all done with drop-down checklists, so it's very easy to use. There are probably many questions that you will not be able to answer, but don't worry about those, I think that unless you have extensive medical issues, those questions would not even come into play - honestly, I didn't even know what much of that stuff meant. But there will be a ton of information that you will be able to input. And you can go back and add to your individualization at any time.

It's actually really fun, and from what I've been able to decipher, it sounds like probably the least restrictive of the diet plan choices, so that makes sticking with it less difficult. Plus you will feel the difference in a matter of days. Most definitely worthwhile  


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Required fields for SWAMI

Name
Height
Weight
Year of birth
Gender
Activity level

Blood group
Rh
Whether your are sensitive to caffeine
Whether your are lactose intolerant
Whether you want SWAMI to calculate a GenoType or your preferred GenoType
Whether your are right handed
Waist measurement
hip measurements
Space between legs
Somatotype
Ratio of your measurement of upper leg length and lower leg length
Ratio of your measurement of leg length to length of torso
Whether your can fully circle wrist
Length of index and ring finger
finger print patterns
Whether you see white line in finger prints



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If you have other data you can add it but it is not necessary to put anything in the optional fields.

SWAMI works whether or not you put data in these fields.

I will select some of the optional fields as examples:

Your PROP Taster Status
Mitochondrial DNA Haplogroups
Y Chromosome DNA Haplogroups
Do you have a history of cancer or neoplasia:      
Do you have a history of heart or artery problems:      
Do you have a history of bowel or digestive problems:      
Do you have a history of urinary or renal problems:      
Do you have a history of skin problems:      
Do you have a history of allergy or autoimmune problems:      
Do you have a history of chronic fatigue:      
Do you have a history of low grade infections:      
Do you have a history of depression mood problems:      
Do you have a history of liver problems:      
Do you have a history of thyroid problems:      
Do you have a history of blood sugar problems:      
Do you have a history of joint problems:      
Do you have a history of environmental sensitivities:      
Do you have a history of heavy menses/ menorrhagia:      
Do you have a history of premenstrual syndrome:      
Are you in peri-menopause/ menopause:      
Do you have a history of prostatic enlargement:
Do you have a history of erectile dysfunction


Have you been told that you have anemia or low ferritin:      
Have you been told that you have elevated C-Reactive Protein (CRP):      
Have you been told that you have a low platelet count:      
Have you been told that you have a high platelet count:      
Have you been told that you have a low white blood count:      
Have you been told that you have elevated liver enzymes:      
Have you been told that you have elevated glucose or HgbA1C:      
Have you been told that you have a high creatinine or BUN:      
Have you been told that you have a high sed rate or Oxystress :      
Have you been told that you have elevated cholesterol or LDL:      
Have you been told that you have low HDL or high homocysteine:


MIfHI                            I follow a SWAMI diet.
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My 2 cents is that it is better to pick any one of Dr. D's food plans and stick with it for at least a few months at a high level of compliance, than to waffle back and forth and not gain the benefits of any of them.

At the very least, LR4YT is a very sound place to start, or one of the health series. It's important to get the secretor status in order to really know that you're following the correct diet.

The Genotype diet is an improvement for many, if not most people, although some just stick with the blood type diet. It can take a while to do all the measurements but when you're sure about it, you will generally know fairly soon if the diet is working.  If not, re-measuring may be in order.  Some things, like a transparent ruler, measuring on the palm side of the fingers, can aid in accuracy.  Also having an assistant can make all the difference.  

The SWAMI has been a great addition to my life and enabled me to lose the remaining 10 pounds or so that the blood type diet didn't budge.  It is a blend of my old BTD and GTD diets and it's easy for me to follow.  There were a few things I couldn't answer, such as really pinpointing where my ancestors came from and also a few of my fingerprints are still unreadable.  The helpful people at DPN patiently walked me through my questions by phone.  It worked out fine.  My health has improved greatly on the SWAMI, even after 10 years on the BTD and 3 on the Genotype.



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I'm just not sure how to tackle it....... Should I go back to where I started with ER4YT, use the updated LR4YT/Typebase which I wasn't sure about or go the whole hog and get SWAMI Express, which appeals but I have a number of reservations about it - cost, limited information to input, would I stick with it.......

[*] Would you recommend I go for it or go back to BTD?
[*] Any suggestions to help me stick with what I end up doing?

I definitely recommend SWAMI...  Even though BTD and GTD by the book are great compared to a standard "eat everything" diet, I had some issues with both.  SWAMI has been very easy to stick with as I don't get cravings for "avoid" foods.  If I need something, there are plenty of good foods to choose from to provide what I need.



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I find the SWAMI printout to be much easier to follow than the food lists in any of the books.


So do I! Much much easier.

It also gives you a Geno Harmonic section: Diamond and Superfoods combinations which will enhance your most important metabolic process. SWAMI may calculate and choose this process for you, and it also give you options for you to choose from, and gives you the lists accordingly.
I cannot exaggerate the importance of this personal tool for my nutrition. I've actually printed it out and stuck it on my fridge for daily consultation.



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Thanks for the responses.  General verdict here and elsewhere on the board seems to be that you tend to get more foods and therefore it is easier to follow so I have taken the plunge and ordered it............ I need all the help I can get!

C_sharp, thanks for all those examples - that definitely helped with the decision making - I get the impression I may well be able to fill in more than I expected!  I don't know my secretor status, taster status or anything else that requires further testing.  


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Kipperkid, I love SWAMI after I got through the first few weeks. I was sick with allergies or a very bad cold during those weeks, so I decided it was 'way past time for me to get SWAMI out and give it a try. I had been on the other D'Adamo diets for about twelve years already. Running a high fever and feeling terrible wasn't the best time to start a diet that took a reasonable amount of mental concentration!! My results were dramatic, though, to say the least. Even though there are foods that should be supers for me now still bother me, there are zillions of others to choose from! I have lost eight pounds as of this morning since the first of November and feel really good, and I am no spring chicken!


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Reading more and more on the forum it seems the majority of people have found it benefits them either in improving health further than BTD/GTD did or simply because it gives a wider variety of foods to choose from.  I have to admit I'm getting a bit excited now and want it to arrive yesterday so I can play with it and see what it comes up with for me!  

I'm on day 2 of my restart - just avoiding wheat as a major ingredient and trying to make sure I get some bennies in.  IBS symptoms haven't been as bad today, so hoping it will continue to improve.............  I'm struggling to get really stuck in on BTD if SWAMI will change it, I might as well learn the new lists and start from there.  It's a pretty safe bet wheat's an avoid though


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on day 2 of my restart - just avoiding wheat as a major ingredient


let your swami work for you


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I'm on day 2 of my restart - just avoiding wheat as a major ingredient and trying to make sure I get some bennies in.

It's a pretty safe bet wheat's an avoid though

I think it is a safe bet the all of the major avoids (the 6 or 7 highlighted in Live Right..) for your blood type will still be problematic for you to eat in great quantities...  

It is amazing how forgiving the body is when you stop eating the "bad" stuff and start feeding it healing foods.  

You can prepare for SWAMI's arrival by getting all of your measurements done.  It will then just require you to enter the data once you get the login information.


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Naw, Joe, it isn't a given. You wouldn't believe how mine changed!!!


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