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mindy
Sunday, October 16, 2011, 3:13am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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Does anyone know how much Soy is really too much? I'm concerned about the estrogen levels. I am a typr A-positive, but didn't know if that makes a difference or not.
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Does anyone know how much Soy is really too much? I'm concerned about the estrogen levels. I am a typr A-positive, but didn't know if that makes a difference or not.

There are portion and frequency recommendations for each food group of each plan.  Follow these and you should be fine.


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Benandbecca, if the BTD resonates with you better, then stick with it.  We all have different levels of disease, different things we're trying to achieve & I'm all for finding what works for YOU as an individual!     BTD didn't sit as well for me...too much beef & some of it just didn't click.  I was gaining weight & didn't really feel well.  I switched to GTD & started following my Gatherer diet & I feel so much better!  I'm not ready to dive into SWAMI, nor am I ready to find out my secretor status, but I'm seeing big improvements with GTD, so I'm sticking with it!  Best of luck to you on your journey!


Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again!
Goal weight acheived!!  Woo Hoo!!!!
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mindy,
Read about the non secretor issue
http://www.dadamo.com/knowbase/newbie/a.htm
More information on SWAMI diets can be found at:

http://www.dadamo.com/media/swami.htm
http://www.dadamo.com/clinic/swamigenotype.htm


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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Spring
Tuesday, October 18, 2011, 12:24am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Well, SWAMI is ACTING like a single use program. It is not allowing me to even finish entering all my information. I don't have patience for this kind of stuff any more. I have too many other things I need to be doing instead of trying to fix this when there do not seem to be any options. This is the reason I have not done anything with this program before now. Are we expected to allow a certain amount of time to finish entering everything in one sitting when we don't have a clue how long that might be? Lola? What is going on? I enter my login info and get nowhere. Help!


"We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." -- Benjamin Franklin
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Spring
Tuesday, October 18, 2011, 12:30am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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All right, all right, I finally spied the JUMP TABLE! Ain't never heard of a JUMP TABLE in all the years I have used a computer!


"We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." -- Benjamin Franklin
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Andrea AWsec
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Spring, call Bob he is the SWAMI support person 1(877) 226-8973 ask for him by name---  he will talk you thorough want ever your problem is.

Lola knows lots but she does not have access to help you with your data entry, but Bob does.


MIFHI

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"Healthy people have the least overt symptoms from eating avoid foods." Dr. D'Adamo
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whatever Lola wants.......you all know the rest......haha

C Sharp might also have a few words of support to offer.....

no worries


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I agree with Andrea's suggestion to contact Bob if you have problems with the software. His email is: swamixpress@northamericanpharmacal.com



SWAMI Xpress does allow you to enter data in several sessions. It took me a few sessions to get enough data in for it it to run.

I am still fine tuning the data and testing different settings.  I have edited my SWAMI 257 times and it still is allowing me to make changes.




You do not have to use the jump table.

You can just scroll down the page to get to the area of the page that you not yet finished entering data.

The jump table is a collection of links that you can use to jump to different areas of the page.  But its use is optional. I almost never use it.

If you only fill out part of the form, be sure to scroll to the bottom of the form and save your data before leaving the page--other wise you may need to reenter some of the data over again.


MIfHI                            I follow a SWAMI diet.
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Spring
Tuesday, October 18, 2011, 3:55pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Thanks much for the suggestions. I have a very high speed internet connection and this thing is taking forever to finish. Am I sitting here waiting for nothing? Or is something wrong? I am using Chrome and thought it would be faster but no such luck with this file. It just keeps saying not to close this file, etc. It also informed me that this type file could harm my computer. Good grief....


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Spring
Tuesday, October 18, 2011, 3:59pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Well, I just exited the whole thing. I am having an allergic reaction today from something I was exposed to outside yesterday, and it would be great to get some help from this thing (wishful thinking I know because we don't just pull instant help for this sort of thing out of the air!). Anyway, I took golden seal about an hour ago and stinging nettle just now. I may resort to something stronger if these two don't soon help. I am aching from head to toe.


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keeps saying not to close this file


why don t you run it once you have all your data ready to input....

write down all that is asked of you separately, then start working on getting it all together, then finally run it.

no worries......this process needs to be fun!!!  

and not cause you grief!

ask for support....


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Spring- good luck with figuring out all the SWAMI stuff. Isn't it exciting, that you almost have your personalized food list ready to go?


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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Spring
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Well, I tried Chrome, AOL and finally got this thing on the screen, printed and in hand using Mozilla Firefox! The last one, JUNO, was about to be called into action if Firefox hadn't worked! Computers and these browsers!!! Yes, it is great to have this done, ruthiegirl, and ready to roll. Problem is I have about $30 worth of Greek yogurt in my fridge that my neighbor will be only too happy to get! I had already mentioned on another thread that yogurt was beginning to bother me even when I took a lot of lactase. No way can I eat the cottage cheese sold in stores around here because every single one of them only have it with plain old milk/cream added. No way will that work for me. I love cottage cheese - why do they have to ruin everything?! My sister rinses it well with water and seems to get along all right with that. I may try rinsing and eating it with a load of lactase. Fruit and cottage cheese are wonderful! I am thrilled that watermelon is a superfood, though, because I have been eating it all summer. I had already figured out that it HAD to be great for me! Cantaloupe was a super food for me on the Geno diet but it just never worked for me. I would buy these lucious melons, bring them home and throw them out after one serving. I love all my spices, etc., which I have been eating all the time! Ah, thankfully, raisins are a neutral. I don't go overboard with them though. I don't know about other Warriors but Larch is an over-the-top supplement for me. You wanna feel really good? Have some Larch! So my right off the bat analysis of SWAMI is that it is RIGHT ON!

Oh, Lola, when I was getting the "don't close this file" message it was after the browser was supposed to be downloading and in reality wasn't doing a single thing!! The file may have been too large, who knows?! Chrome is usually really fast but maybe it is just too puny for this size file, and it is anybody's guess what may be wrong with AOL.


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So you got it all worked out! Wonderful!!!!


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It's worth all the effort.  Good for you for persisting!  



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Hooray, Spring! Now you can get on with loving your new food list  


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“Let thy food be thy medicine and thy medicine be thy food.” --Hippocrates (460-377 B.C.)
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I have successfully used the following Chrome versions with SWAMI Xpress under Windows 7 (64 bits):

6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, or 14 (current stable release). I have not tried it with versions 15 (current beta release) or 16 (current development track).


I have not had encountered difficulty using SWAMI with chrome on Macs or Linux, but I do not check all versions on these platforms.


MIfHI                            I follow a SWAMI diet.

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Thanks for all the support!! It is great to get this done and finding out that my body was beginning to tell me a lot more than I realized!! And, oh, boy, now I can have broccoli!! I had really missed broccoli. But I can't say that I'm sorry to see Adjuki Beans taken down a tiny notch!    I will still eat them in soup, though.

It has been raining here today so this was a good day to get this into a booklet that I won't have to tear my hair out trying to make a grocery list.

I wish it was not so hard to get Amaranth flour. It is so easy to use and all the groceries here used to carry it, but no one does now. I have never gotten an answer for that that made sense. No Amaranth cereal or flour. Believe me, I have let them know what I think about the sacks of every corn product known to man that they have on their shelves! Thankfully,  I don't have a ton of these breads on hand that I was able to eat on the GT5 diet. I'm glad it is settled once and for all that oatmeal is NOT my cup of tea, either. I used to like it in the winter, but gradually I have enjoyed it less and less. I have a friend who is really into quinoa so I will ask her for some of her delicious recipes.

So here I am heading out on this journey and looking forward to it!!


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I can really relate to the sense of frustration and almost panic that can beset one in the face of technology, and am so glad that you persisted  



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Thanks, Jenny! Another confirmation I just found is that I had noticed a good while back that walnuts had started to really irritate my throat and stomach. Well, guess what?! It has been relegated to an avoid with a dot! I was still trying to eat them now and then because they were supposed to be "good" for me - now I don't have to worry about that anymore! I just bought a LOT of organic peanut butter the other day because of the threat of a big increase in price. Now, if we just had a good fish market or some frozen fish that didn't come from China, I would really be happy! I was cleaning out my pantry earlier today and found some organic black beans by Libby that were processed in China!! I will stick with my usual brands from now on. I am so glad black beans are on the superfoods list now.


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I am completely frustrated with SWAMI.  I just put in all of my information, which is very detailed, and it determines I am a Teacher. I don't really fit the profile of a Teacher (more of an Explorer), but that doesn't matter so much. What frustrates me is that it recommends quite a few dairy products that I am fairly confident I cannot have. For example, it lists Parmesan cheese as a Diamond Superfood. If I go to the Type 4 database, it is an Avoid for Type A Non-Secretors like myself and says:
but even if they weren't Avoids in the BTD, I KNOW I cannot tolerate much dairy.


No doubt that you selected lactose intolerance in your list?? I did and I have very few items in dairy. Of course, I am a nonnie, if that makes a diffference, I don't know.


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Yes, they were tested for the blood types, but there is far more to it than that. BTD is working with what you have, GTD is turning on/off gene expression. Both the type base that you seem rather attached to and the program "swami" were written by the same person! Do you really think he would not have some reason for the contradictions? I realize it is a difficult concept to grasp and you seem to want a seamless flowing solution, cut and dry etc. Ain't gonna happen. Swami is taking into consideration all of the information you gave it about you, the type base is generalizing about ABO type. Just because A's in general don't do well on parmesan cheese is sorta like saying "white men can't jump", well, as a matter of fact some of them can.


I have had a particularly bad/sad day, and now I'm reading this, and you know what I'm thinking?...

1.)  All the books I bought and the food I have to buy now are getting more expensive each day

2.) "Everyone seems to have to buy a SWAMI in order to jump through the different stages of learning/healing around here or else theyr'e going to be 'out of the loop' now on algorythyms of some sort.

3.) People are onfused; it's now time for yet another book to be written...not just "charts" and "blogs"

4.) I MYSELF will probably need to be one of the editors of the book so I can keep buying the "right food" for whatever type Swami figures I am as the economy lingers at its current standstill.  

Like the authors of this thread said: they are dealing with serious health issues. Many other people are -- not just them. Healthcare SUCKS.

But I'm starting to see a definite pattern develop around here out of this whole program.

I'm not saying I see anything SINISTER happening here, but.....

Ya'll feelin' me on this one?


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The reason I was all for the BTD in the beginning, which was over ten years ago, was because it addressed the very issues I was having at the time and made all the sense in the world to me. In fact, I understood not only the problems I was having, and what to do about them, but problems my dad had all his life! Nobody had to convince me of anything! And every step I've made since then has STILL made all the sense in the world, as I have written already. I don't think Dr. D. is wild about writing another book. Maybe sometime, but as he has said, he is a one-man show, and we know that he has to sleep sometime which he didn't get much of when he wrote the Geno book.  The  Geno stuff is in its infancy, comparatively, and it might take the next generation to delve into it more.

As for the cost, when you take into consideration all the stuff people could do without so they can have good health, this program is CHEAP! I shudder to think of the CASES of soft drinks I used to buy when my sons were teenagers. Then, I would turn around and buy bottled water. Figure that one out! And the chips I bought! And the candy and cookies!  And the hundreds of dollars a year we spent on, of all things, newspapers!! And yet I fixed "nutritious" meals all the time, just not according to this diet. Talk about a paradox - I was living and breathing it! How many thousands more are out there doing the same thing?!


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Ya'll feelin' me on this one?


No, I'm not feeling you on this one.

Everyone is free to come here, sing praise or vent, on my dime, should they so choose. No one is making anybody do anything or forcing anyone to buy anything.

The rest is just the nuts and bolts of taking basic responsibility for one's self, one's choices and one's actions.

If people suggest things or ideas, that is simply the selection bias that is endemic to specialized communities. I can't remember the last time I actually told somebody on this forum to buy anything.









A whole system is a living system is a learning system.’ -Stewart Brand
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