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TJ
Thursday, July 14, 2011, 12:02pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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here are a few helpful hints i would have LOVED someone to put in a book for me:

double check all the info before you put it in the computer
Just correcting my fingerprints was enough to change me from Nomad to Explorer.
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Yes Practitioners have a more custom version.
I am on Long Island in NY.. I welcome anyone who wants to have me run the SWAMI- pro for them.


I do all the testing.. including breath hydrogen and bioimpedance.


MIFHI

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"Healthy people have the least overt symptoms from eating avoid foods." Dr. D'Adamo
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Sorry, if I have exasperated you. I am a very open minded person, but even this is a stretch for me. If GTD is superior, why bother to even promote the BTD at all?


The difference between the BTD and the GTD is, if you are done having kids and you just don't want to turn on age related illness genes, like diabetes, heart disease, cancer, things like that, then follow the BTD. If you're younger and you're going to have children, the GTD changes the genes in the family line so that your children, and grand children will not have the cancer gene or the diabetes gene. That's the difference.   Dr. D found it useful to incorporate some of the GTD for me when I went to see him for a diet program. The GTD is more strict, and it's not just "oh, now this is an avoid and it used to be a beneficial" It's the entire diet as a whole. People aren't looking at the diet as a "whole entity" affecting the body for the better. All they see is "oh, that's an avoid now and I used to be able to have it." It's not about a few items that you used to be able to eat and now they are an avoid or vise versa, the entire diet affects the body..  Understand?    
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Quick Questions..... The practitioners who use SWAMI in their office, do they have a more customizable version?

If I wanted to find a practitioner, are there any in the Atlanta area?


At the top of this page, you will see a link to online support.  Hold your cursor over that and the list appears.  At the very bottom is "Find a Practitioner".  As I understand it, however, not all practitioners have the SWAMI Pro, so you will have to ask that particular practitioner.

However, before seeing Dr. Nash, I did go to a practitioner on the list  who does not have SWAMI Pro.  The practitioner I saw charged $50 to do the measuring and fingerprinting.  Then you could input that data into your SWAMI and be confident it is correct.  

As TJ mentioned, fingerprints can change your genotype and most of us are not experts in reading fingerprints.  I got most of mine wrong when Dr. Nash read them.


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Isn't there some way to scan in your fingerprints and post them online, and have the people on this message board help decipher them?


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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I don't know. I meticulously went over them, but I am not sure that the quality of the prints I made would be good enough. We actually could fairly easily decipher them by looking at our ink stained fingers in the light. We did that and used the prints. I really tried to make sure our info was accurate, but I guess I could still be wrong in some areas.

Today, I called to have some time locked info changed. Both my hubby and I do not tolerate dairy well. I have an allergy, and he may or may not, but he still doesn't tolerate it well, so we can't really eat it right now on the diet. We don't have the classic lactose intolerance symptoms though, so I originally left it as  lactose tolerant. After changing it, I thought it would change our diet to limit dairy, but it didn't. Any reason why SWAMI would recommend a bunch of dairy superfoods when we are both listed as lactose tolerant?  
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Dairy foods contain different amounts of lactose.

So the dairy product recommend may be for cultured dairy products where the cultures would have consumed most of the lactose.

Also some cultured diary products contain beta-galactosidase or other enzymes that help break down lactose.




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After changing it, I thought it would change our diet to limit dairy, but it didn't.


Other settings you made probably already indicated to SWAMI that you would not tolerate lactose well.  So high lactose foods were already eliminated.


MIfHI                            I follow a SWAMI diet.
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I do all the testing.. including breath hydrogen and bioimpedance.
Is the bioimpedance testing you do the same as biomeridian testing?
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No.  Here is where you can read about it....
http://www.bioidenticalhormone.....;id=62&Itemid=74


MIFHI

"Do not try to satisfy your vanity by teaching a great many things. Awaken people's curiosity. It is enough to open minds; do not overload them." Anatole France

"Healthy people have the least overt symptoms from eating avoid foods." Dr. D'Adamo

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Thanks, C_sharp! That was helpful.
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Becca, can we change the title of this thread yet? to .... BenandBecca are following SWAMI.


MIFHI

"Do not try to satisfy your vanity by teaching a great many things. Awaken people's curiosity. It is enough to open minds; do not overload them." Anatole France

"Healthy people have the least overt symptoms from eating avoid foods." Dr. D'Adamo
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Becca, can we change the title of this thread yet? to .... BenandBecca are following SWAMI.


Ummm, No. Sorry! I called a practitioner I found through the directory to get some help with my SWAMI measurements or whatever, and she basically told me that she has a degree in chemistry and the GenoType diet doesn't resonate with her like the BTD does. She has been following BTD for years and goes to SWAMI when she feels like she needs to be more restrictive to boost her immunity. For the most part, that made sense to me and my hubby, and we are following the BTD like we originally planned. I intend to refer to SWAMI for comparison and help along the way. It just doesn't "resonate" with me like the BTD does either, but I am sure it will be helpful! Sorry to disappoint any die-hard SWAMI fans. My family and I just started the BTD this week, and we already feel significant improvement.
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glad you are seeing improvements already!


There is a good in every bad  
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Great for you to be following one of Dr. D's plans...  After you follow it for a while, you may find that you need to make a few changes to continue to progress...


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Thank you!  We're pretty much aware of the drill. We have done similar diets before, and they all need tweaking. We discovered last night that neither of us tolerate buckwheat, except maybe our son. I had a sensitivity to it on my labs years ago, and I had eaten it maybe 1 time previously in my life that I could really remember. I have hardly ever eaten it since my lab report over 7 years ago, but apparently, my body doesn't like it.
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Often times your sensitivities are due to gut health.

A three month run of... gastroD... polyflora.... deflect.... live cell... and intrinsia, might make a world of difference.



Our guts are all a mess and need support for  a bit. As A's it is very important.



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"Healthy people have the least overt symptoms from eating avoid foods." Dr. D'Adamo
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Yes, I am definitely aware. Sigh. We are currently taking Polyflora and Candex and being very strict with the BTD, but I need to look into the other supplements you recommended.  Sadly, SWAMI lists Buckwheat as a superfood for both my hubby and me. Maybe one day we will be able to eat it.
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BenandBecca, I'm glad you've found a system that feels right  


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Whichever one of Dr D's diets you choose, you should see an improvement in health over time. I'm glad you're already feeling improvements.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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Thank you all!
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I too have followed all the plans starting with the ER4YT all the way forward to Swami.  As the food choices for me changed I just trusted that Dr. D knew what he was doing & I changed according to his suggestions.  I have NEVER been disappointed.  I am in the best shape that I have ever been since I started here in 2007.  I will never go back to my former way of eating.  I am here to stay. When the new Swami is introduced, I'll follow that with the anticipation that I can only get better by doing so.  
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Hmmmm. Well, the SWAMI stuff is around here somewhere, but I have yet to deal with it. I bought it two or three years ago, but too many things got in the way of trying it. I STILL cannot eat a whole lot of the beans recommended on the Warrior diet. On the other hand, I can eat cabbage, even raw, and not have a single problem. I haven't been making a practice of that, but I was away from home for a few days, and it so happened that slaw was available just about every day that didn't contain any pepper. I decided to give it a try -- several times!  I still feel great. I simply cannot tolerate any dairy except Greek yogurt, and that is beginning to bother me somewhat. Soooo, this SWAMI might open up a whole new world to me. Geno nearly drove me crazy - who could wonder that I was unwilling to take the risk of changing again so soon?


"We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." -- Benjamin Franklin
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welcome spring!


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I haven't tried SWAMI yet, but there are foods that I know without a doubt I cannot eat on the Geno diet, but most of it has to do with my individual health history. My guess is that the SWAMI diet would address these very issues. For instance, some foods I have been able to eat on the Geno diet after it directed me away from foods that were causing severe problems such as corn, and my stomach was able to heal from the effects of it after being on the Geno diet. Granted, corn was an avoid for non-secretors in the BTD but at the time I didn't know I was a non-secretor. So I am a great believer in testing for secretor status! From what many of you have said, I expect SWAMI to dive right into individual issues! Many aspects of the Warrior status has never fit my "profile." So I wouldn't surprised at all to discover interesting, new information about that.


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More than two-thirds of immunity begins in the gut.


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