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Goldie
Wednesday, October 19, 2011, 2:05pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Sam Dan
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The price of co-pays......

I bought all the books of Clan Of The Cavebear. A 7-8 part series written over decades.. I love waiting for the next book and don't mind the prices I pay. I love big books, I read the first because it was a thick book.. bought by size.. I don't like stories to end..

Same with DR D's learning curves.. I love seeing and hearing from the IfHi conference (DVDs)  how he is making discoveries and putting this and that old and new info together to make it come out something futuristic NEW .. and then make it available to us via any means possible..

The money for ~~~~~  BTD/ GENO books/ SWAMI computerized shopping list/ UB - Textbook or IfHi learning DVD's / DPN Supplements ~~~~~~ is never more then every so many years, a small amount each time, and for me: always less then the CO-PAY for my doctor visits.  

The FREE access to everyone else's information sharing HERE is an enormous gift..  

I UNDERSTAND your frustrations.. but IF I might :  a while ago I had a young visitor who was driving me absolutely crazy over the few days of her stay.. by the time she left I felt I could never want to see her again.. I did not like my own self expression  -- I ended up calling MY therapist whom I had not talked to for years, but who I felt safe with to talk and FEEL the anger.. she knows me and she knows me not to be on angry person out of control..I could feel safe..

She preceded to tell me that my reaction to this IRRITATING voice was from something LONG ago and that 'it' was unresolved.. AS soon as she said that, I knew exactly what that was.. and then I could work on letting go of both those events..

Late last month the child was here again and all was grand.. I felt great..  

It will be the same as soon as you figure this thing out... It took me 4 -5 years to come back HERE to stay, because MY computer kept kicking me out.. I finally called Bob and together we figured out what caused it.. and since then I have been here, maybe tooooo much    

Soon you will eat the foods that will lift the depression and you will solve the computer glitches.. calling Bob is a good suggestion... Learning as you go is a good way to heal what ails you.. The library in your town must have all the books you need, check it out -and it should be free for the asking.. and Swami will do the rest and eventually save you LOADS of money to boot, as you will no longer buy all sort of useless or harmful stuff to MAYBE feel better.. I assure you I save TONS!  

All the best.


Being here is invaluable, but not enough. We need ALL the Doctors. I needed them for a very small cancer spot-I could never feel!!! Please do your mammograms! Doing so saved me from cancer later on. I am grateful! Thanks for learning from my experience! I was lucky! I wish the same for YOU!
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yaman
Wednesday, October 19, 2011, 2:05pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Quoted from Dr. D
I can't remember the last time I actually told somebody on this forum to buy anything.


You can't, because you never did


"You are never given a problem without the will power to solve it"
Richard Bach - Illusions, The Adventures of a Reluctant Messiah
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Lloyd
Wednesday, October 19, 2011, 2:51pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Quoted from yaman


You can't, because you never did


Details, details......    
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Victoria
Wednesday, October 19, 2011, 6:44pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Quoted from Spring
The reason I was all for the BTD in the beginning, which was over ten years ago, was because it addressed the very issues I was having at the time and made all the sense in the world to me. In fact, I understood not only the problems I was having, and what to do about them, but problems my dad had all his life! Nobody had to convince me of anything! And every step I've made since then has STILL made all the sense in the world . .


Ditto.

I came on board in 1999 because it made sense to me.  Nothing has happened to change my mind.  In fact, each year I have been more convinced that this is the most right-on, successful approach to health that exists.

I have received benefits far, far, way beyond any small cost to me.  



Normal day, let me be aware of the treasure you are.
Let me not pass you by in quest
of some rare and perfect tomorrow.
~Mary Jean Irion
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KimonoKat
Wednesday, October 19, 2011, 8:01pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I have had a particularly bad/sad day, and now I'm reading this, and you know what I'm thinking?...

1.)  All the books I bought and the food I have to buy now are getting more expensive each day

2.) "Everyone seems to have to buy a SWAMI in order to jump through the different stages of learning/healing around here or else theyr'e going to be 'out of the loop' now on algorythyms of some sort.

3.) People are onfused; it's now time for yet another book to be written...not just "charts" and "blogs"

4.) I MYSELF will probably need to be one of the editors of the book so I can keep buying the "right food" for whatever type Swami figures I am as the economy lingers at its current standstill.  

Like the authors of this thread said: they are dealing with serious health issues. Many other people are -- not just them. Healthcare SUCKS.

But I'm starting to see a definite pattern develop around here out of this whole program.

I'm not saying I see anything SINISTER happening here, but.....

Ya'll feelin' me on this one?


I'm with Dr. D. I'm "not feelin' ya" on this one.

Everyone has a choice.  (Collective You) can either put your healthcare in the hands of someone else who makes the decisions, or you can decide to make the decisions yourself.  It's as simple as that.

I choose to follow Dr. D's research.  My choice.

As his knowledge and understanding about the body, (through his research, that he performs, and through him devoting his time to treating patients) and how our individuality interacts with food and our environment, I benefit because he shares it (via his books, writings, lectures).

It would be ridiculous (in my mind) to think that nothing new could ever be learned or discovered about the human body and how to best nourish it for optimum health.  Is SWAMI perfect, right now, never needing any tweaking or updating?  I highly doubt it.  That would make the assumption that one could not learn any more; the puzzle is solved. I don't think anyone could say that about any random subject.  I think there will always be more to discover.

Sharing with the best of intentions.


Knowledge is power.  SWAMI gives you the diet that will unlock the key to better health, and it's all based on your unique individuality.
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deblynn3
Wednesday, October 19, 2011, 8:36pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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  As I understand the protocols you are to pic one. (the one you can get, afford, find whatever) not all. I like the choices.  I can try and find the safest ingredient myself or let the Doc and his people do it. I've done both. Sometimes for money reasons and sometimes because I don't have to order.


Can't wait for when I can get my swami, and will be looking for the updates as they are discovered.
Progress doesn't stand still.


Swami, 100% me..
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Dianne
Wednesday, October 19, 2011, 9:27pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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It's all worth it when you find the 'Golden Egg'. ie : SWAMI. And...now that I know my secretor status, all is well with me in my world! You are so close, don't get discouraged by past experiences...get to the finish line!

If I had not spent all of the years searching, spending $$$, trying this and that etc... then that means I would have given up and I would be one unwell person today. It's important to not close off and keep an open, inquiring mind. Wishing you success!!!
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SandrAruba
Wednesday, October 19, 2011, 10:08pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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What is it that some people don't understand about this diet being for your individual needs?

What is good for an A in general, may not be good for an A in particular, because of that A's particular genetic design.

Being on BTD helped me tremendously, being on GTD helped me even more. Did I ask why my bananas went from neutral to black dot with Swami? Why my chicken went from neutral to black dot? Why my beneficial pineapple went to a neutral?
No, I didn't, because there is someone who is much much much smarter then me who figured out that for me I should not have these products in order for me to be healthy. And it is working, it cured me of terrible menstrual problems (you have no idea how happy I am with that!). Sure, I can adapt swami in such a way that my chicken becomes a neutral again, but I would only be harming myself if I did that.

So I say, make sure you entered all your information correctly (and not for the results that you would like to see) and follow that program. If you ask questions at every bite you take, you are only making life terribly difficult for yourself. And if it's too difficult for you, then go find one of those "one size fits all" diets. See how that works out for you. And if you only want to follow 90% of your swami, then do that. It's always much better then not following it at all.




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Monti
Wednesday, October 19, 2011, 10:21pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I think it's healthy to ask questions as long as there isn't an negative agenda behind it. I love understanding what makes me unique from everyone else. Swami messed me up mentally at first . There were key foods that I was sad to give up by following BTD but when swami said it was ok- brought me great joy. Sure, I'm sad that I should limit my certain food intake, especially when there are scary new foods on the list that I have never had before. However, when I eat it and I feel good - well, WINNING!


A married to an O, with toddlers A daughter and O Son.

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Spring
Wednesday, October 19, 2011, 11:24pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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If people suggest things or ideas, that is simply the selection bias that is endemic to specialized communities. I can't remember the last time I actually told somebody on this forum to buy anything. Dr. D.


I can't either. In fact, it almost seemed like I was having to push SWAMI up in a corner to suggest supplements!


"We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." -- Benjamin Franklin

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EatToLive
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Quoted from Lola
read this and decide if this science isn t mind blowing and complex:
typing food/gtd explained.....science behind....tests research food values
http://www.dadamo.com/B2blogs/blogs/index.php/2010/03/27/hows-and-whys?blog=24
hows and whys
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-GTDdiet/m-1202698596/#num13
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-GTDdiet/m-1202698596/
determinant for typing food
because the program chose those foods based on algorithms devised by Dr D. The logic is his, the computer does the scoring based on that.
http://www.dadamo.com/GenoType/7GTDflowchart.jpg
dadamotron


Thank you for that! Well, it offers a general summary of how and why for the foods in general, But I still hoped for a specific answer to each food concern. For example, he explains why rice is beneficial but not rice milk for some people, but does that same explanation apply to almonds and almond milk? Does anybody know if Dr. D is working on getting the answers to us about such specific food questions? Like why Almonds are beneficial for me O+ Hunter nonnie but I can't have almond milk? Is he writing a reference book that people could turn to in order to get some explanations?
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EatToLive
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Quoted from Lola
read this and decide if this science isn t mind blowing and complex:
typing food/gtd explained.....science behind....tests research food values
http://www.dadamo.com/B2blogs/blogs/index.php/2010/03/27/hows-and-whys?blog=24
hows and whys
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-GTDdiet/m-1202698596/#num13
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-GTDdiet/m-1202698596/
determinant for typing food
because the program chose those foods based on algorithms devised by Dr D. The logic is his, the computer does the scoring based on that.
http://www.dadamo.com/GenoType/7GTDflowchart.jpg
dadamotron


Thank you for that! Well, it offers a general summary of how and why for the foods in general, But I still hoped for a specific answer to each food concern. For example, he explains why rice is beneficial but not rice milk for some people, but does that same explanation apply to almonds and almond milk? Does anybody know if Dr. D is working on getting the answers to us about such specific food questions? Like why Almonds are beneficial for me O+ Hunter nonnie but I can't have almond milk? Is he writing a reference book that people could turn to in order to get some explanations?
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chrissyA
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The key to SWAMI is the individuality, so the reason a particular food may be an avoid for you is very likely different from the reason it may be an avoid for some one else. Your food list is a combined compilation of so many factors.


SWAMI
“Let thy food be thy medicine and thy medicine be thy food.” --Hippocrates (460-377 B.C.)
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Lola
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Quoted Text
Is he writing a reference book that people could turn to in order to get some explanations?


the swami PRO for professional use does contain a fact sheet, with all the biochemical and molecular rational behind every avoid, for the particular patient


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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The harder you are on yourself, the easier life will be on you!
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I am having a similar issue with parmesan cheese at the moment having just realised that it is an avoid for blood type A. I am pretty sure I am a secretor and am twice tested as an rh+ A yet, I fit the description on explorer which also bamboozled me.As I thought Explorers were at least nonnies or rh-.

Being aself  acknowledged slow acetlytor, I am still having problems clearing my birth control from my system. Does anyone know if they contain high ammounts of copper? There seems to be a trigger with unbearable scalp itching and hairloss when I eat foods that contain copper. I.e. raspeberries, peanut butter, almond nut butter. So I am thinking that maybe my copper levels are still too high after birth control which can cause hair loss.

Or having indulged in my diamond parmesan cheese which miraculously i dont 'seem' to react to in terms of facial swelling and excma, like I do with everyother food, this is triggering candida which is causing the itchy scalp.
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Healing isn't always comfortable. Sometimes, "diamond" foods cause you to heal by clearing out old toxins. This can cause things like itchiness.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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