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LindaB
Wednesday, June 15, 2011, 5:55pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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I called and asked to have my caffeine changed to being sensitive because it does give me a buzz and I have to eat either with the coffee or immediately afterwards because my blood sugar drops and I get jittery and irritable...anyway that change made me an Explorer...

I did read a couple of things and it talked about low white counts and anemias, I do have those...but can it be? I have to go read about Explorers now...I double checked my input and that was the only thing that changed. Initially I answered no to caffeine, mostly because duh, I wasn't thinking, and thought I could always change it, not realizing it was time locked. I think I read somewhere that if it keeps you up at night it's a problem but I'd only have one cup in the morning, and that didn't keep me up...anyway huh??? I don't know if this is good or bad...
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given that you're a non-secretor and have a lot of intolerances and allergies, I would have guessed that you are an Explorer.  What really matters though is the food - did it change much?  If it did then I would definitely figure out which one is right (caffeine sensitive or not) so that you can follow the food list that is best for you


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Explorer diet will concentrate on Liver health.


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LindaB
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Yes it did change Brinyskysail, but I didn't lose Ghee or Sweet Potatoes . I'm reading and it does fit me...wow, now I see why when I read about Hunter characteristics I didn't think they really fit me, but some did and I know not all fit everyone so, and I just trusted SWAMI, but I'm sure I'm sensitive to caffeine. You thought so....why didn't you tell me?? hahaha....just kidding... Also the features and characteristic list that SWAMI outlines was much longer than for the Hunter GT.

Thanks Andrea I know that my liver is a weak area for me, so this is good. I've been working on my liver so it's good to know that my new diet will make a difference. It does seem to be resistant... I'm comparing my food list with the new one and it's not drastically different but certainly different enough that I need to make some changes, and I can see that I wasn't eating avoids even on the hunter diet  .
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I'm still surprised that I'm a Gatherer and not an Explorer. I definitely have some liver issues, and used to have elevated liver enzymes (back before I lost 20 lbs and was taking prescription drugs regularly.) But I guess my history of diabetes outweighs my liver problems and tips me towards Explorer.


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I imagine once you've been trying your new explorer diet for a while you will able to see if it feels right.  Good luck!


Gluten/Casein and Yeast sensitivity.
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After reading about Explorers I have no doubt that I'm an Explorer. The food sensitivities, allergies, environmental toxins and chemicals, sudden unexplained losses of energy, liver and or gallbladder problems, anemias, low WBC counts, always going the wrong way, had to laugh out loud at that one, I always said my middle initials were WW...being sensitive to most vitamins and supplements, I can hardly take anything...high metabolism, low to medium fat percentage, age gracefully, longer torso. I have no doubt that this is my GT. As far as foods go I've been eating a lot of the same foods that are on my Explorer list, but there are changes.

Here are some of them:
Cinnamon went from a SF to avoid, I've always known that for some reason I couldn't tolerate cinnamon, so even though I saw it as a SF, I knew better.
Chicken went from Bennie to Neutral
Nutritional Yeast went from a SF to a Neutral, so at least I can still have it.
Maple syrup went from an Avoid to a Neutral...I like that...
I can still have red wine
Chocolate went from SF to Neutral
Green Teas are still SF
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Finally, an O I can relate to.  Your issues sound like mine.  And I'm not even a nonnie.  

And even though mine says Nomad, I have explorer issues also and my swami has had me as one for a while.


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Finally, an O I can relate to.  Your issues sound like mine.  And I'm not even a nonnie.  

And even though mine says Nomad, I have explorer issues also and my swami has had me as one for a while.


And you're not an O either...I wonder if as we heal and things get better if GT's change? What did you check for caffeine? Nice to know you can relate, and sorry too...haha..sometimes it's so frustrating, and it's always a game of detective work...
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SWAMI, don't sweat your title. Sounds like you are dialing in well. Little tweaks.


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SWAMI, don't sweat your title. Sounds like you are dialing in well. Little tweaks.


Thanks...definitely improving, and the diets between Hunters and Explorers are not that different, at least in terms of my food choices. But it's a bit confusing, because in reading about the two genotypes, I share many of them. I am more lean and tall, and an ectomorph which is not typical of an Explorer, but I do have all of those sensitivities, allergens, etc as well as a LOT of other things....so I guess SWAMI knows best. I know I have a problem with my liver because some foods, will cause immediate discomfort in that region, it could actually be the gallbladder, which I hope not to remove but to heal. Not even sure it's that...I just get a dull ache in the region, and only on rare occasion...no severe pain, nausea or vomiting etc. And it's not usually fat that it reacts to...so   Will keep on tweaking...
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because in reading about the two genotypes, I share many of them.


ding, ding, ding! EXACTLY!

I typed out with many as well. I have Warrior traits (which I typed myself from GTD book though I had strong strength testing on a lot on the GT kit), and even a few Hunter traits (don't get on a big fuss about that). I also had some gene information done and daddy is an O.

It's not about the name, it's about you as an individual.


"For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well." Psalm 139:13,14
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Quoted from AKArtlover

It's not about the name, it's about you as an individual.


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welcome again in our club privé, nonnie & explorer


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welcome again in our club privé, nonnie & explorer


Oh that's so sweet, thank you!
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And you're not an O either...I wonder if as we heal and things get better if GT's change? What did you check for caffeine? Nice to know you can relate, and sorry too...haha..sometimes it's so frustrating, and it's always a game of detective work...


I'm HYPER sensitive to caffeine.  So, it's definitely marked on my swami.  For what it's worth, I used to drink 2 lattes a day and sometimes they were doubles.  I used to do lots of stuff that I can't do know, so, regardless of genotype, methylation plays a huge role as well as overall health.  Mine is not good at present, thus, the sensitivities.  I've always been somewhat sensitive, but not enough to slow me down.  Now, it's a whole different ball game.  I'm praying to get back to how I used to be.


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I'm HYPER sensitive to caffeine.  So, it's definitely marked on my swami.  For what it's worth, I used to drink 2 lattes a day and sometimes they were doubles.  I used to do lots of stuff that I can't do know, so, regardless of genotype, methylation plays a huge role as well as overall health.  Mine is not good at present, thus, the sensitivities.  I've always been somewhat sensitive, but not enough to slow me down.  Now, it's a whole different ball game.  I'm praying to get back to how I used to be.


I did a lot of things too that I shouldn't have. I can remember days where all I would eat was cake or things like that... what was I thinking    Well we're on the right track now, that's what matters. And I pray that you get back to the way you used to be too...and I'm sure you will  
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well I'm back to Explorer again, once they changed my leg length input  

I was feeling fine with the swami Hunter diet, let's see how I do with the Explorer one..  


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My diet didn't change that much. I'm a non-secretor so I'm not sure how that made our Hunter diets different. I'm pretty much still eating the same foods, and I bet you will too mostly. I'm strict about avoiding avoids...and only rarely eat a neutral. When you read the genotype description do you feel like it's a fit?  
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O Nonnie, with all of the traits you share with Explorer, it seems that you should follow that for now.  You never know - there may come a time when your profile changes enough again that you go back to a Hunter, but it seems that you have some healing to do and the Explorer diet is the way to go.  Good luck with that!
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I did a lot of things too that I shouldn't have. I can remember days where all I would eat was cake or things like that... what was I thinking    Well we're on the right track now, that's what matters. And I pray that you get back to the way you used to be too...and I'm sure you will  


Amen!!  Yes, I used to be a little debbie supporter.  Nutty bars and the white cake ones were my favorite.  The brownies weren't too bad and those chocolate covered crunchy sticks with peanut butter in the middle.  Oh yeah.  Put some nutty bars in the freezer and hot darn, I'm having a good night.  And so cost effective too.

Well, I gotta go eat some quinoa.  Hehehhehehe  That's just as good, especially because I know it's probably not hurting me and possibly helping.  A little cinnamon and a touch of honey.  Some sea salt and pecans.  Hot darn it's going to be good night.  


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O Nonnie, with all of the traits you share with Explorer, it seems that you should follow that for now.  You never know - there may come a time when your profile changes enough again that you go back to a Hunter, but it seems that you have some healing to do and the Explorer diet is the way to go.  Good luck with that!


Thanks Patty, I appreciate your input on that, I really need help sorting it out and I think working on the liver is just the thing I need right now...
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Amen!!  Yes, I used to be a little debbie supporter.  Nutty bars and the white cake ones were my favorite.  The brownies weren't too bad and those chocolate covered crunchy sticks with peanut butter in the middle.  Oh yeah.  Put some nutty bars in the freezer and hot darn, I'm having a good night.  And so cost effective too.

Well, I gotta go eat some quinoa.  Hehehhehehe  That's just as good, especially because I know it's probably not hurting me and possibly helping.  A little cinnamon and a touch of honey.  Some sea salt and pecans.  Hot darn it's going to be good night.  


Did you say Nutty Bars   Never thought about freezing them Those were my favorites...I still look at the box when I walk by them in the store, shed a tear and move on... Bad Little Debbie!!!  

I had quinoa last night too, have you had the red quinoa, I think I like that one best. I thought it was bothering me but it turned out to be the rice. I like it sweet rather than in a dish but might have to learn to like it both ways since it's the last grain I seem to tolerate. It's yummy with honey, but cinnamon is an avoid, it causes pain in my iliac bone, so I don't eat it anyway . Wish I could have the nuts too...maybe once I do more healing I'll be able to...for now it's a no...

btw thanks for the tip re: methylation, I did some reading last night and wow...good stuff! Sipping on my green tea right now...
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I like it sweet rather than in a dish but might have to learn to like it both ways since it's the last grain I seem to tolerate.


You can probably tolerate it because it's not actually a grain.  Amaranth is also a pseudo-grain and might work if it's not an avoid for you



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O nonnie... back @ ya and hey isn't life beautiful and a bit crazy at the same time all makes muchmore sense...wait until you're going  to discover...


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I'm having some uncertainty with my swami, too.  I'm not sure about certain classifications.  I have to study up and re-read and try to figure out my somatotype and legs.  I'm leaving the Meyers-Briggs thing blank for now.  
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You can probably tolerate it because it's not actually a grain.  Amaranth is also a pseudo-grain and might work if it's not an avoid for you



How did you get so smart?   I'm so impressed with what you know Brinyskysail, (it kills me to type that out).... Thanks for sharing what you've learned.   How or where do I find Amaranth? Is there a chance of gluten contamination?  
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O nonnie... back @ ya and hey isn't life beautiful and a bit crazy at the same time all makes muchmore sense...wait until you're going  to discover...


I love your enthusiasm, it's contagious, your posts make me smile and giggle...and I feel so encouraged by your words and this diet. It's already changed my life for the better. It was indeed the missing piece for me...thanks for the smiles and giggles and sharing your excitement over this diet...
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I'm having some uncertainty with my swami, too.  I'm not sure about certain classifications.  I have to study up and re-read and try to figure out my somatotype and legs.  I'm leaving the Meyers-Briggs thing blank for now.  


It sure shows the significance of inputting accurate information. I'm still wondering if I have everything right. There wasn't a big change in the diet and a lot of the favorite foods I was already eating were on as SF's, and I'm having good success with the diet. I'm adding the work to the liver now...does the Meyers-Briggs change things a lot?  
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It sure shows the significance of inputting accurate information. I'm still wondering if I have everything right. There wasn't a big change in the diet and a lot of the favorite foods I was already eating were on as SF's, and I'm having good success with the diet. I'm adding the work to the liver now...does the Meyers-Briggs change things a lot?  


I'm tweaking my swami right now.  It looks like I will be even more Explorer than before, not Gatherer.  Taster status is what would have been the switch.  Super taster puts me in Explorer land.  And I am a super taster, no doubt.  Btw, I do ok on amaranth flour.  I make tortillas out of it, and someone posted a cracker recipe that I'm going to try soon.  You can buy amaranth flour in your grocery store *organic* section or Whole Foods.  Yes, Meyer-Briggs also apparently makes a difference.
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How or where do I find Amaranth? Is there a chance of gluten contamination?  

You can find amaranth at many health food stores, but if you are having trouble - here is one source that I use from time to time...
http://waltonfeed.com/category/77

I've never heard of amaranth becoming contaminated with gluten, but I guess it would be possible if a gluten containing grain were handled on the same equipment prior to the amaranth without thorough cleaning.  I think a rinse should eliminate any residue, though.


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You can find amaranth at many health food stores, but if you are having trouble - here is one source that I use from time to time...
http://waltonfeed.com/category/77

I've never heard of amaranth becoming contaminated with gluten, but I guess it would be possible if a gluten containing grain were handled on the same equipment prior to the amaranth without thorough cleaning.  I think a rinse should eliminate any residue, though.


That's what I always wonder they say "processed in a facility that processes wheat, tree nuts", etc.  Don't they clean the equipment between processes?  I don't worry about it because it's difficult enough as it is to find what I need.
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Gluten contamination is certainly possible, but most amaranth I've seen is specifically labeled GF - probably because it's usually marketted towards GF consumers.  Just check the packaging.  Bob's Red Mill sells GF quinoa and amaranth flours; you don't have to give up baked goods to be grain-free

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I'm tweaking my swami right now.  It looks like I will be even more Explorer than before, not Gatherer.  Taster status is what would have been the switch.  Super taster puts me in Explorer land.  And I am a super taster, no doubt.  Btw, I do ok on amaranth flour.  I make tortillas out of it, and someone posted a cracker recipe that I'm going to try soon.  You can buy amaranth flour in your grocery store *organic* section or Whole Foods.  Yes, Meyer-Briggs also apparently makes a difference.


Did you get your SWAMI all worked out? I hope you're ok with it. Meyer-Briggs didn't change mine...weird huh? Thanks for the tip about Amaranth...I'll look for it.  

Thanks ABJoe...I'll check out that source. much appreciated  

Brinyskysail no way, I can type... hahaha...thanks, I'm not much of a baker though, are there other ways to eat the Amaranth?  
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amaranth can be cooked and eaten like rice or quinoa.  I never liked the texture , but I'm a very texture-oriented eater


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Did you get your SWAMI all worked out? I hope you're ok with it.  Meyer-Briggs didn't change mine...weird huh? Thanks for the tip about Amaranth...I'll look for it.  


On-Nonnie, I think I’m ok with for now.  I’m sticking with endomorph.  I may do the full Meyers Briggs test again sometime soon, but I always have a problem with those kinds of tests.  I can always answer any number of ways, depending on my mood.  Sometimes I’m thinking, sometimes I’m feeling.  Sometimes I’m perceiving, others I’m judging.  I’m pretty consistently I and N, though.

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Bob's Red Mill sells GF quinoa and amaranth flours; you don't have to give up baked goods to be grain-free


That’s the name of the brand I was trying to remember, Brinyskysail!  That’s the brand of amaranth I use for making tortillas.  They are labor intensive, but very very tasty, as well as carb-appetite satisfying.    I have used amaranth in a mix of compliant flours for baking, but I’m not crazy about it for that.  I think it makes a great flatbread, though.
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That's what I always wonder they say "processed in a facility that processes wheat, tree nuts", etc.  Don't they clean the equipment between processes?  I don't worry about it because it's difficult enough as it is to find what I need.

In a food processing facility where they are attempting to reduce cross-contamination, they clean the machines very well, but there is always the chance that they missed a small bit.  In most cases, the legal jargon is for those people who can't tolerate the slightest bit of dust...  Kind of like the people with peanut allergies that have anaphylactic shock from peanut odor.


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In a food processing facility where they are attempting to reduce cross-contamination, they clean the machines very well, but there is always the chance that they missed a small bit.  In most cases, the legal jargon is for those people who can't tolerate the slightest bit of dust...  Kind of like the people with peanut allergies that have anaphylactic shock from peanut odor.

That's pretty much what I was hoping.  
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I used lipstick on my finger to make a print ...one print was on the fence between a whorl and a loop...It looks like a whorl, but only one delta that I can see, so it makes my hands asymmetrical but anyway that one change put me back to Hunter....so I'm 39% Hunter and 38% Explorer...so I'm going to use the Hunter diet primarily but do some of the liver stuff...to improve my liver, because I have so many of those Explorer sensitivities and I don't know what I am...When I heal some more and can read my prints for sure...maybe it will change back...really makes you scratch your head when there is one point between the two genotypes...

Yes I changed my name again..
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