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upnorth6 |
| Saturday, May 28, 2011, 11:27am |
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My SWAMI lists "squash" as a bennie on my list, but does not specify any types...
MY favorites are acorn and spaghetti squash...does any one know if those are ok?
I'm a tad confused |
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Wholefoodie |
| Saturday, May 28, 2011, 11:30am |
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Kim |
| Saturday, May 28, 2011, 11:40am |
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I am so happy about squash being on my swami. I love them all!!  |
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upnorth6 |
| Saturday, May 28, 2011, 2:42pm |
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Hooray!  I've always loved squash |
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ABJoe |
| Saturday, May 28, 2011, 2:56pm |
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I've always taken Squash to mean all of the winter squash - those with the hard shell.
The only hard shell squash-type food with a different listing is pumpkin.
I lump summer squash into the Zucchini listing. |
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deblynn3 |
| Tuesday, December 6, 2011, 5:52pm |
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So, is the squash listed in swami, the winter (hard shell)? Do you count yellow summer squash a zucchini? or as the only squash listed.
zucchini is a diamond where "squash" is only a neutral for me
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ruthiegirl |
| Tuesday, December 6, 2011, 6:04pm |
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I personally consider "Squash" to mean all winter squashes: acorn, spaghetti, butternut, etc. I consider summer squash (even the yellow kind) to be "zuchhini" because it seems to me that zuchinni is just "green summer squash." Summer squashes are different from winter squashes, but the two kinds of summer squash seem interchangable. |
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deblynn3 |
| Tuesday, December 6, 2011, 6:19pm |
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That sound reasonable. Coming for GTD the winter squashes were given in more detail. I've never been very fond of them, but they are now neutral and I've seen some nice recipes. (usually from GCG) swami has given me more choices and I want to take advantage of the Geno Harmonic Foods |
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JJR |
| Wednesday, December 7, 2011, 2:45am |
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They all shine when you stick them in the oven. So good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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deblynn3 |
| Wednesday, December 7, 2011, 3:55am |
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I like my zucchini and yellow neck, raw and cooked. Hoping to get them going in the greenhouse. So I'll know what's on them. I've got to learn how to grow the winter ones, I need to know which are heat and drought resistant if any.
But that is a different thread, and for later this year. |
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JJR |
| Wednesday, December 7, 2011, 5:51pm |
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I've been missing yellow squash because some reports claim much of it is GM. So I've avoided it. But man do I miss it! |
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deblynn3 |
| Wednesday, December 7, 2011, 6:18pm |
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I'm planning on growing my own, it will do well in a large pot. I found even in the garden it did best that way. Harder for the bugs to get to. |
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ruthiegirl |
| Wednesday, December 7, 2011, 6:20pm |
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To avoid GMO summer squash, I bought it at my farmer's market when it was in season,and only buy it in organic form if I buy it at the supermarket. |
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deblynn3 |
| Wednesday, December 7, 2011, 6:20pm |
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try Baker Creek Heirloom Seeds they are anti-GMO |
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gulfcoastguy |
| Wednesday, December 7, 2011, 6:31pm |
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I like my zucchini and yellow neck, raw and cooked. Hoping to get them going in the greenhouse. So I'll know what's on them. I've got to learn how to grow the winter ones, I need to know which are heat and drought resistant if any.
But that is a different thread, and for later this year.
The most bug, heat, and humidity resistant ones are C. Moschata varieties like butternut, pennsylvania dutch crookneck, tahitian melon(only if you have a long season), and several others. C. Mixta varieties like green striped cushaw are heat resistant and nearly as bug resistant but not quite as humidity resistant. Avoid C. Maxima types like the plague, hubbards, buttercup ect. C. Pepo types are a tossup, you win some and you loose some. A good site for mail ordering seeds is http://rareseeds.com/ |
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deblynn3 |
| Wednesday, December 7, 2011, 7:17pm |
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Thanks GCG that will be most helpful we have a long hot spell starting out very wet, and humid, turning hot and dry. My husband has built me a 20 x 12 foot greenhouse, now I need to full her. (he says) Don't know how to use it so I've got a book coming in I'll learn.
good news it was 30 last night and 50 inside. We still have a wall for the second covering and only 1grow light and a little oil heater. So we're still working on it. Plants inside still look good.
I printed out your info. |
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gulfcoastguy |
| Wednesday, December 7, 2011, 11:14pm |
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Oh C. Mixtas handle drought better than C. Moschatas but don't taste quite as good to me. They make great roasted seeds though if that is on your swami. |
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deblynn3 |
| Thursday, December 8, 2011, 12:11am |
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Not sure other than Butternut being a black dot, the only listings I have is squash or zucchini. I'm thinking the squash (neutral) covers all the winter squash. (besides the butternut a black dot and pumpkin a diamond for me) I can't find anyother listings for squash. |
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gulfcoastguy |
| Thursday, December 8, 2011, 2:21am |
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Try Musquee de Provence, it is a C. Moschata pumpkin that tastes like a butternut. |
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deblynn3 |
| Thursday, December 8, 2011, 4:42am |
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Try Musquee de Provence, it is a C. Moschata pumpkin that tastes like a butternut.
I've found some C. Moschata pumpkins in this catalog and will check for the one you've mention on your site tomorrow. Found one "Upper Ground Sweet Potato" which they say grows in South and does well in poor conditions. That does sound like my garden. Doesn't say how long before they are ripe. I will try several to see which does best for me. I'm planning to start them in the greenhouse. I found Musquee de Provence! I will do some price checking between these to Co. Appreciate your help and knowledge |
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Ribbit |
| Thursday, December 8, 2011, 5:28pm |
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It would indeed seem logical to lump all summer squash together, all winter squash together and all pumpkins together. But anybody who has grown pumpkins and summer squash too close together in the garden knows you get squmpkins. GCG's knowledge of cucurbits and some perusing here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cucurbits may shed light about which ones cross pollinate and which ones are more closely related. |
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gulfcoastguy |
| Thursday, December 8, 2011, 9:35pm |
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Basically C. moschatas can crosspollinate with other C. Moschatas, C. Maximas with other C. maximas, C. Mixtas with other C. Mixtas, and C. Pepos with other C. pepos. Very rarely a C. Mixta will cross with one of the other types. Usually this doesn't show up till the next year in seed that you save. Most times if you get an odd squash it is because a bum seed got into the pack. |
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ruthiegirl |
| Thursday, December 8, 2011, 9:50pm |
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So, am I correct in lumping butternut, acorn, and spaghetti squashes together? I just checked my SWAMI, and I don't have butternut squash listed separately. A search for "squash" yields one listing in Live Foods and a bunch in GH combos, and "butternut" only turns up "butternuts" in vegetable proteins.
I mostly use butternut squashes, with acorn squashes a close second. |
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gulfcoastguy |
| Friday, December 9, 2011, 1:33am |
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I believe so but I don't have a swami. I've just been planting the stuff for about 30 years. Butternut, acorn squash, and spaghetti squash are commonly referred to as winter squash. They are a C. Moschata, a C. Pepo, and a C. Pepo in that order. That is also the order from longest to shortest that they can be stored if they were all picked at the same time. From my personal opinion and based on the fact that pumpkin is only listed as a C. Pepo in typebase I consider the C. Maxima and C. Moschata pumpkins to be winter squash barring any clarification from Doctor D. |
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ruthiegirl |
| Friday, December 9, 2011, 7:29pm |
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What are the "common names" for the C Maxima and C Moshata pumpkins? I'm wondering if some of the "pumpkins" at the farmer's market may, in fact, be OK for DS. |
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