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misspudding
Tuesday, April 5, 2011, 7:33am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Mother, I've been gluten free for over a year. I avoid milk, but do mozzerella and I try really hard to be corn free, but it's hard.

Since I've been pretty compliant, bloating is *very* rare. Like once a month rare. But a few months back, I tried a gluten free fiber supplement. OH MY GAWD. I felt like I was going to DIE, I was so bloated.

I haven't noticed a problem with larch or chicory, but I'm an Explorer. Don't know if that means I can do a little more carbs than you?


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Jayneeo- nope, I'm not small, I'm tall but I am thin.

misspudding- i get the exact same thing fron psyllium or any of the fiberall type supps. I can't even look at them. I have definately found that avoiding (or maybe very small amounts here and there) nuts, legumes and many veg proteins are my best option. If I stick with protein, fat and non starchy veg I have no problems what-so-ever. My daughter was chroniaclly constipated all her 21 years (along w/bloating and pain). now she's gone to almost no fiber and 'going' everyday. fiber seems to STOP her digestion. She stuggles even with vegetables so for now has switched to rice products. She probably has candida so that is not going to work but is having surgery for endometriosis as I type. We'll see how that comes out.
MY system seems to like the bsic all natural 'hunter food pack'. It doesn't like meds or even alot of supps, just your standard vitamins-C,D,Multi, turmeric, cal and mag.
Thanks for your replies


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Jenny
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Just want to backtrack on the matter of psyllium..I notice in the links that there is an issue with some Os, but I wonder if there is a definitive statement on the use of psyllium for other types? Or is it just a matter of trial and error? On the other hand, are other foods better for the purpose of dealing with constipation/flatulence? I am taking polyflora A.



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Quoted from Lola


The operative quote is at the very bottom:

Quoted Text
Polyflora Blood Type Specific Probiotics also blend 'prebiotics' (foods which provide special growth factors for probiotic bacteria) that are right for each type. .




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Is it okay to take Polyflora O with a little sip of water? I've also noticed the very uncomfortable bloating effect
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Hi Paul, reply 12 above did not really address my concerns. Perhaps I should start a separate thread on psyllium alone, what do you think?



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It's fine to take polyflora with a whole glass of water swd.


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Quoted from swd123
Is it okay to take Polyflora O with a little sip of water? I've also noticed the very uncomfortable bloating effect
I have found that polyflora works best with a glass of water and a live cell at the same time.



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Sounds like you might have a candida overgrowth and the bene bacteria could be killing the bad bacteria, this can cause bloating, stomach upset and constipation or diarrhea. I started out taking the polyflora 1 capsule a day for a week and added 1 more capsule the next week. It took me a month to work up to the recommended dose. Also as someone stated earlier they need to be taken away from food.


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I have had incredible results with Polyflora O. In fact, I cannot tolerate ANY probiotics except Polyflora!  Since I started taking it, my digestive issues are virtually gone. It's been about a week of taking these three times a day and I can now tolerate more of the foods that used to tear up my stomach. My gas and bloating are 1/2 what they used to be. I am much more regular as well!  Thank you Dr. D for all your hard work!
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Welcome, FancyMom, and thanks for sharing your experience with PolyFlora O!


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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Sorta resurrecting an old thread here, but finally got my polyflora and deflect today. So far, so good with the polyflora (hoping I'm not shooting myself in the foot by taking more than one dose today). No bloating, yet, as far as I can tell (took one polyflora 8 hours ago, another just now before bed).

Will report back in a few days. My biggest thing I'm hoping for is my sugar and alcohol cravings have been through the roof, lately, which I'm guessing is yeast. Would love too knock that back for good!


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Good Idea to have a live cell with the polyflora.


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Mother, if your intent is to try to work on your gut by using beneficial bacteria, I have some experience with this.  I used to sell a product line that had a very good line of probiotics and enzymes.  I worked with a large group of folks who were natural health practitioners and I learned a lot from that experience.

One of the things I learned is that it is often, although not always, best to use a single strain probiotic.  We almost always started people off with bifidus with no additional ingredients.  We often started off by having people  actually open the capsule and just sprinkle a little on their tongue, having one capsule last about five days, then increasing gradually.  Once you could tolerate the bifidus, we would recommend that you continue with the bifidus and then add acidophilus in the same manner as you started the bifidus.  This process can take more than a month to build up but it did help to stave off the negative reactions that often times accompany adding a probiotic to your diet.

On the subject of fiber, I too, cannot take fiber.  It bloats and constipates me and makes me feel miserable.  I have tried this with many different types of fiber and the results are always the same.  Pretty extreme gastrointestinal pain and severe constipation.  When you are trying to work on your gut health, the last thing you want is constipation.  One needs to keep all pathways of elimination open and functioning.

I read a post above about small framed people not doing well with fiber.  I am very small, so maybe that has something to do with it.  

I don't know if bifidus is rated for Hunters/O's but I am an O and a Hunter and I did great with bifidus.  It is the beneficial bacteria that is found in breast milk.

Ultimately, you know your body best!


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Patty, your post reminded me of my first experience with probiotics. It was pretty awful, to say the least, but I stuck with them. I took two caps twice a day from day one. After a few hours on the first day, my head felt like a steel band was wrapped around it and getting tighter by the minute. I was crazy with pain. I knew I needed to eat, but I couldn't think of a thing to fix even though there was plenty of food in the house. My husband came home from work a little after five (by this time I was walking the floor crying), and he was beside himself about what to do. Eventually, we got something together to eat, and I began to feel better.  Anyway, long story short, it was a crash course in getting "used" to taking probiotics that I don't recommend to anyone! Dr. D.'s would probably not have caused such a violent response, but I'm not sure about that. All my reaction told me, according to what I had read, was that I desperately needed probiotics! So I plowed through the symptoms and eventually began to see some very positive results. There was a tiny light at the end of the tunnel.


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Well, so far so good. Small amount of bloating last night but overall, feel good.

Patty, I read somewhere last night that non secretors don't typically have much bifidobacteria in their guts. Don't know if that means bifidobacteria are bad for nonnies or what.


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Patty,

Thank you for the advice. I will keep the slow start in mind if I feel the need to take them. I am not trying per se to heal my gut. I AM trying to keep it happy and it has been lately. I have always had the constipation problem and as you noticed all fiber supps make it worse as well as probiotics, and other supplements for that matter. Recently (for months) I have had the exact opposite trouble and it's pretty definitive now that spinach was the culprit. It's only been a few days since not eating it but things are coming around and changing to 'more normal'. I will see where this leads I guess. Sad to see spinach go but there are plenty of other veggies for me. Even root veggies cause me discomfort and bloating. I have tried for years to heal my gut and at the end of the day it like what it likes. As Dr D says, hunters don't tolerate the foods it doesn't like so take what works an leave the rest'. This is what works for me. I have lots of options that do work.

If I do find without spinach I need probiotics I will start slow. Magnesium always worked magic in the past so I have that to fall back on if things change too much the other way!!


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Still doing all right.

I'm thrilled that I ordered and have been taking Deflect since yesterday. I got unknowingly glutened and it hasn't been a huge deal! Yay!


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Good, MP!

Hmmm, I'm wondering if I should try it again.  I used to take it with breakfast, and I'd feel bloated all morning.  I might try taking it after supper.  Then if I do experience bloating, it might dissuade my from seeking out sweets before bedtime.


My SWAMI diet is a blend of BTD and GTD Explorer, but I'm not totally compliant.  Also I try to choose foods that have a Low Glycemic index.  DW and DD are A+, probably also Explorer.
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SquarePeg, I'm hoping it continues to be helpful. I drank a lot of "fake coffee" with chicory in it, earlier this year, and I know that gave me some gas. I think the amount that's in Polyflora is small in comparison to what I was drinking before. Perhaps that just primed my system enough to be able to tolerate it?

I don't notice whatever is in Deflect when I've been taking it, so I'm guessing I don't have any issues with Larch.

You could always half or quarter the dose (or even just start with a sprinkle) and work up super slow.


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