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purlgirl
Friday, March 4, 2011, 2:10am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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TJ - thankx for your thoughts.  I don't get that reaction (cramps and gas) so I think I did good chosing "not lactose intolerant".  
My body is much more likely to just stop working. (not a good thing)

Lola I don't understand your response.
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Not quite, Lola.  Galactose is one of the monosaccharides that make up lactose.  Lactose is indeed the sugar found in milk.

http://www.milkfacts.info/Nutrition%20Facts/Nutritional%20Components.htm

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Milk is approximately 4.9% carbohydrate in the form of lactose....  Lactose is a disaccharide made up of glucose and galactose bonded together. Before it can be used by the body, the bond must be broken by the enzyme lactase in the small intestine. People that have decreased activity of lactase in the small intestine may have problems digesting lactose and this is referred to as lactose intolerance or malabsorption.
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Purlgirl, glad I could help!
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Chloe - our avoid list are simular - I get more back than you do, including Buttermilk.

http://www.cheesemaking.com   could probably answer your question.  
New England Cheesemaking Supply  

I just did a search about cheese making and it looks like there is a lot of interest  -- so probably lots of help.  
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Ruthie: I used to eat quark when I was still in UK. Bit more difficult to get over here. But quark and farmer's cheese are both neutrals and I want to stick to the superfoods and diamonds otherwise it becomes a slippery slope ...


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Lizzie - me too (Diamonds & Supers)  

   My Fruits, Live Foods, and Fish list are so huge I may drop back to all Diamonds on these for a while.
   Esp Fish since I have no idea what most of them are.

   I have noticed that some of my Geno Harmonic Foods are Neutrals - so I'll inc them in my list.

Gotta get real too - I can spend so much time getting organized that there is no time or energy for practical application.  
  
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Here's my question. I'm thinking about making my own cheese sometime in the future. I suspect I'm allergic to dairy, not the life threatening kind, but the kind where the reaction is delayed to the next day. My nose gets blocked up during my sleep, I get mucous in my throat, one of my ears starts hurting, and I wake up with huge dark circles under my eyes. I have not been tested, these are just my observations.  Anyway, I love cheese and I could live without it if my swami didn't give me any but it gives me a few, depending on my secreter status they vary. I like to have macaroni and cheese occasionally and have been buying daiya imitation cheese every once in awhile. It has avoids, doesn't really have nutritional value, and is expensive so I'd like to stay away from it. What do you all think about making my own cheese? Do you think I should or shouldn't do it considering my situation? I'm also wondering if rice or nut milk can be made into cheese. Maybe I could try that too. I'd be happy to get a little bit of cheese once a month if I could. I'm going to try ghee made at home again first and try the cheese after I get better food back in my routine.    
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One more thought, I have lactose intollerant checked on my swami but back when I did drink milk I never really got a stomach ache from it. Of course this was a long time ago. I gladly haven't drank milk for a year. I do recall possibly being gassy from it but I wasn't sure. Maybe I shouldn't have it checked on swami?

I looked at my lists and Romanian urda is neutral for me regardless of secreter type. I'm off to look for recipes. I heard it might be called Gjetost in america is that right? I have no idea how to pronounce that. Could I buy the things I need to make cheese with from the local store? I've never seen it.

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If you're looking for something to make a cheesy flavor in "macaroni and cheese" you may do better with nutritional yeast than actual dairy cheese, if nutritional yeast is OK for you. You can make the sauce from nut milk or compliant bone broth, thicken it with a compliant flour or starch (such as rice flour or arrowroot) and then add spices and nutritional yeast. Yeast doesn't have the same texture as cheese, but it does have a "cheesy" aftertaste that's perfect in sauces, and may work even better than a soft cheese. I'm assuming that cheddar cheese is an "avoid" for you.

I'd suggest doing websearches for the cheeses you're allowed and the word "recipe" or "cheese making". See what's involved for making each type of cheese, and then you can decide if it's worth your trouble to make it. Soft cheeses are very easy to make, but hard cheeses require more materials and time.

I made my own quark and paneer fora while, but stopped because I have a very hard time with portion control on homemade cheeses. I was simply eating too much dairy and it negatively affected my health.


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I had same issue with lactose intolerance.   Wasnt sure what to say.  I am coeliac and it was recommended to go dairy free.  I notice indigestion with some cheeses and haven't touched milk for a fee years.  I am usually ok with icecream so I am confussed what to put in Swami.  


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I had same issue with lactose intolerance.   Wasnt sure what to say.  I am coeliac and it was recommended to go dairy free.  I notice indigestion with some cheeses and haven't touched milk for a fee years.  I am usually ok with icecream so I am confussed what to put in Swami.  


I'm similar....have issues with gluten but my problem with dairy is casein (the protein in cheese
and dairy) not lactose.  And people who are gluten intolerant are often casein intolerant as well.
We can't break down the protein....  I'm fine with yogurt, and a few beneficial cheeses.  The long list of compliant cheese in the GTD book, most give me a headache and stuffy nose.  I'm fine on manchego cheese, parmesan, yogurt, ghee.  Most other dairy feels wrong.

My granddaughter IS lactose intolerant.  All dairy gives her a rumbling stomach. bloating and diarrhea.
You'd have to have real lactose intolerance symptoms to be checking off that box.

http://www.webmd.com/digestive-disorders/tc/lactose-intolerance-symptoms



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1) You will notice that checking lactose intolerance does not eliminate all dairy from a person's SWAMI.

2) Unchecking the box may or may not change a SWAMI diet recommendation for dairy. If you have other things in your SWAMI profile that indicate that you would not handle dairy well, you will still only get a small amount diary.

You may want to run SWAMI with the box checked and unchecked and compare the food lists.


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I don't drink milk, but I need to try it again. I have it in eggs sometimes and it's no big deal to me.  And I don't ever remember acting strange with milk.  Butter is good to go also.

However, cheese stops me up right quick and cultured dairy makes me feel awful and gives my stomach fits.  So.......  I marked that I'm intolerant.  

It's not an easy thing to answer.  I don't even know what I am.  I think mine is more of a reaction because of lyme than anything.  I used to love dairy though.  Love love love.  Cheeeeeese.  


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