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Drea, congrats on the third straight day without sugar and wheat. I am wondering if by sugar, you include all carbs??? Coz I think it is fine to have some carb and starchy veggies. Recently I have been eating quite a lot of starchy/root veggies like pumpkins, squash, rutabaga and sweet potatoes in a broth (to keep warm)... I have lost my intense craving for sweets. Of course, when I eat enough animal protein I also don't have the craving but for "A," it might be harder to do as you cannot eat a lot of meat. But it seems that you have been eating a lot of wonderful food. Keep up the good work!


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I like the approach of Chinese Medicine when it comes to the tastes of the food  we eat.  Our bodies have a need for the different flavors and sweet is one of them.  The sweet flavor is closely related to the Spleen, which is strongly activated in the body during the time when the seasons are changing from one to the other.

I try and incorporate the sweet taste into every meal that I eat, in the way that Ballet does . . by using whole foods that are naturally sweet.  Since I don't sweeten my food with anything like agave, honey, maple syrup, stevia, or whatever, it's really important to me to take care of this taste in other ways.

One thing I like to do in the cold season is to slow-cook beneficial fruits until they are very reduced in volume.  My favorite is sweet cherries and blueberries.  I simmer them for 8 hours or so until they are thick and sweet.  A few spoonfuls of this fruit conserve will satisfy any sweet needs I have without any added 'sweeteners'.  I also enjoy sweet potato, baked in the skin . . the old fashioned kind with tan skin and yellow interior.  It becomes very sticky-sweet when done, and is incredible with ghee.  Baked delicata squash is another favorite of mine;  or a few Nantes carrots, steamed or sauteed and mixed with other vegetables. Parsnips are nice and sweet, also young beets cooked whole and then slipped out of the skins. Sweet red bell peppers, red onions . . more sweet flavor.

I'm making a thick stew using bones as the stock.  I'll be adding plenty of red onions, red bell peppers, carrots and butternut squash for the sweet balance to the spinach, kale, rainbow chard, fennel bulb, zucchini, maitake mushrooms, garlic, celery and lamb.

I used to throw a few beneficial dried fruits in with whatever veggies I was eating, just before taking off the heat.  That's another way to get the sweet flavor.

Trying to survive without planning for this would leave me feeling that my meals were incomplete.



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Drea, congrats on the third straight day without sugar and wheat. I am wondering if by sugar, you include all carbs???


I'm considering sugar to mean cane sugar. I went for 65 days last time without cane sugar or agave (I don't eat honey, as I literally overdosed to the point of throwing up last year when I ate too much in one sitting), and then started adding in agave, a little bit at a time. The day before the *cave*, I was eating three and four Tablespoons of agave daily (part of my issue with moderation rearing it's ugly head). I do eat carbs. Love the carbs, of the vegetable variety especially. Grains...I have to stay within my portion and serving sizes, otherwise I'd surely sabotage my weight loss goals.


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Drea - I have recently realized that for me to get where I want weight wise and health wise... I too need to cut the white/brown/cane/ sugar, white rice (I over eat on that too, just can't stop.) and wheat. Any one of these products if eaten makes me want to continue eating it till it's completely gone. Well to a point. If I'm not "conscious" with what I am eating I too can eat an entire bag or box of something I shouldn't even be touching.

I too have the "all or nothing" problem. I have gone cold turkey on many things. My main focus really is to learn CONSISTENCY and MODERATION. Those two words were not in my vocabulary for a long time. I put them in caps because I'm still trying to get used to them myself.

With oatmeal I can overeat on it too. Not with quinoa though. I know when to stop. Same with brown rice. So those are my two grains I am good on. I have also found a spelt bread that I can eat just the right portion and stop.

Protein for breakfast makes me actually want to eat everything all day long too. I used to not eat breakfast for years. As I follow my btd, than gtd and now Swami I find that if I am eating the right foods in the right portions I actually have an appetite. Otherwise I could go all day long and only realized at about 4 or 5 that I have to eat... right than! Or I'll eat someone!!! lol  Hence the all or nothing with that too. Amazing what you realize by writing things down sometimes.

For me I need veggies and soy first thing in the morning. That is a protein too, but a veggie protein. Meat proteins make me want to eat everything and also over consume.  I'm allowed fish/turkey/cornish hen/chicken, so it a nice range, just never for breakfast. Eggs are a good breakfast thing. That works. With my Swami I can have 9 a week. Awesome! Of course I don't remember ever eating just one egg at a sitting. I'm still learning portion control.

So I too will join you in cutting out wheat, sugar and white rice. As of Jan 17th, 2011.
I seem to be doing okay with honey but I too am going to limit that to only one tbsp per day.

YAY us!


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I am also a kind of all-or-nothing gal   Eighteen months ago I cut all sugar and wheat consumption cold turkey (along with coffee), among other things. It was hard initially but very quickly my will power won over my cravings. I was devastated about the diagnosis of my huge fibroids at that time so my will power was strong. After having adopted SWAMI one year ago, I realized I could have some beneficial sweeteners without the harmful effects of cane sugar, so I have been taking a small amount of agave and vegetable glycerine without guilt. However, I was addicted to dark chocolate with cane sugar in it. I must had a few squares every day. And I was even addicted to Dr. D's Unibars (I love the sweetness of the agave in it)--especially the chocolate cherry variety! Since the beginning of this year I have totally cut out the chocolate with sugar and started making my own dark chocolate with a small amount of agave, so I am totally free of cane sugar now. And finally by upping my protein intake my craving for sweet things have substantially gone down.

But this has not been a smooth journey. Who knows maybe I would start craving again, hee hee. But I know what I need to watch out for is the grains not the agave... I feel I'm doing OK with a little bit of agave, or almond butter+ carob extract It's the grains that are the bane of existence for Hunters!   Even if I take beneficial grains, I gain weight very quickly. So it's a good start that we become aware of what tips off the balance on the scale... and work toward our goals. Onwards and upwards!


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Yay, Christa! Welcome aboard. Toot toot!

Balletomane, I just consumed two boxes   of Dr. D's unimbars in just under two weeks. That, my friend, is not good. They are too tasty, and I can't not eat more than one. I won't be buying them any time soon. I can, however, eat just one Lara Bar. Dates (beneficial) are the main ingredient, along with nuts and spices (or not), and I only buy the ones that are compliant for me.


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I'm having another great salad for lunch, and though I ran out of curly kale, I do have some organic lacinato kale. I tore up 5 or 6 leaves (without the rib), added celery, green onions, great northern beans, feta, walnut oil (ran out of evoo ), ume vinegar, and fresh pressed garlic cloves. Then, on Victoria's suggestion, added a handful of golden raisins.

I wonder why hand torn lettuce/kale tastes so much better than knife cut? Perhaps it's the force of ripping that causes the bruising of the leaves to let out more flavor...

I highly recommend lacinto kale eaten this way. Oh my! It's good.


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Got snowed in over here... I mean seriously snowed in. I can't even see my tires! lol

Yesterday, with trying to take care of my son and just being.... well, lazy. For a lack of a nicer word. I ate waffles yesterday. I made compliant strawberry sauce that was more tart than sweet. It had a bit of honey and agave in it. But it was still sweet. In my fridge (which I share with my parents while I rent out half their 7 bdrm house) my dad had put in caramel sauce and chocolate sauce for icecream. I drizzled some of that on after my waffles were done. They weren't even compliant! Hence my deciding to join you last night. Boy oh boy do I ever ache today! I've had diarrhea all yesterday and even today my body is still not happy. So stupid. I've learned just not to buy things if I don't want to mindlessly eat something. But I can't really throw out everything that my parents buy. I am trying to get them to be compliant. To each their own.

It's almost noon now and I haven't eaten breakfast yet. I guess I better. On a happier note... with having eaten so well on friday than my bomb of a day yesterday, I have still managed to lose 12 pounds since starting my Swami on January 1st. Awesome! lol Time to go eat brunch!


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Is it possible for you to get a mini-fridge just for your own foods and your son's foods (if he's on solids yet) rather than sharing the big fridge with your parents? Or maybe have certain shelves that are "yours" vs "theirs" and you can think of the stuff on their shelves as "not in my fridge, not available to eat"? Or is that completely impractical with the way your living situation is set up?

I'm still struggling with portion sizes and getting enough exercise, but one thing I dont' have a problem with is buying foods for the kids that I know I can't eat myself. I bake lots of spelt bread for them that I don't eat, cookies for the girls that I can't eat, but dairy products for DS that I can't have, etc. I'm not really tempted by any of the foods that I know are bad for me, even when I'm the one preparing them. Well, the only temptation is to taste cookie dough as I'm making it to verify that "this batch" came out good, just one or two licks,  but I'm usually able to resist that.


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Keep up the good work, Drea!
I am having less honey now and am avoiding wheat totally! You have inspired me!
My worst craving for a "little something sweet" comes just after I eat lunch or dinner. I am eating Teacher foods but need to drink more water.
Like your desert, Drea, we are considered high altitude yet only at 3500 feet. It is dry and sunny this week but still cold.
Also like you, Drea, if I eat one slice of that artisan bread(toast) I must have more...with ghee and almond butter...it is like a drug for me! So, I have to just "step away"........


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Glad to see you cajun! It's cold here, though not as cold as it was a couple of weeks ago.

I think adding those golden raisins to my salad made all the difference. I didn't have any sweet cravings afterward. Thanks for suggesting it Victoria!

I second the mini-fridge idea; if I had to share a fridge with someone who ate "junk", I'd cave more often (and did when I lived with my mom). My will-power comes at the grocery store by not putting it in my basket in the first place.

I'm having a somewhat stressful (all induced by me, I might add) day. I didn't sleep well at all, even though I had a pot of Tension Tamer tea before bed, several sprays of Rescue Sleep during the night, and a cup of Yogi Calm tea at breakfast.

I really wanted to work on my taxes (not really wanted, but feel I should) today, but the woman who cleans the kennel couldn't work any other day than today. It really breaks up my concentration when I have someone else in my space; plus, I'm in her way. And even though tomorrow is a "holiday", I'm keeping the kennel open for regular business hours (7:30am-5:30pm). There will be people dropping off and picking up dogs tomorrow, as well.

I'm having another pot of Tension Tamer, and knitting. I'm almost done with my cabled pullover, just have to finish the yoke and then decide what neck treatment I want. Originally, I was going to make a turtle neck, but now I'm not sure. Knitting is like meditation for me.


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Quoted from Drea

I think adding those golden raisins to my salad made all the difference. I didn't have any sweet cravings afterward. Thanks for suggesting it Victoria!


You're welcome!  I'm glad it helped.  



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I wonder why hand torn lettuce/kale tastes so much better than knife cut?


great observation!! a chef friend of mine mentioned just that to me years ago....
to never chop up leafy greens......tearing them keeps all their flavor and nutrients


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great observation!! a chef friend of mine mentioned just that to me years ago....to never chop up leafy greens......tearing them keeps all their flavor and nutrients
Great tip!! I never knew this...Cheers

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Where to start... apart from needing to restart grain free, nut free, chocolate free... Thanks Drea for being so honest & upfront!!! I identify with you!!!

I was actually going super well until the week between Christmas & New Years....in fact I was so close to my next goal, I said I would be there by New Years...Even though I missed that due to lazing around & nibbling a bit too much...until basically just a week & a half ago I was still going relatively ok!!!!

My skin was the best it had been for ages (practically clear for once ) & I was doing well with my weight I think complacency is my downfall as I did this once before recently - I then think the things that usually effect, me have stopped having an impact...

Even worse though, my experimenting with bicarb & Epsom salts gave me the idea that I could counteract any such problems...& it worked for a while
Not saying I went overboard, just a bit nuts over nuts!!! Well maybe a bit overboard...I did eat an entire 500g pack of macadamias Now I remember why I avoid them!!

I am realising how badly avoids effect me too... As per my comment re doing well until a week & a half ago: I did so well at DH's work drinks (eating & drinking nothing) but as we were clearing up I decided to finish off a cashew & pesto dip!! The small amount I had*, was enough to tip me over, due to the herbs & preservatives (& probably the nuts) as my skin broke out soon after...*Plus with my really bad reaction to salicylates, I stupidly had awakened my sensitivities by drinking some thyme & lemon syrup (had honey in it) in hot water at work...

Now I am battling an incredible bloated feeling & have put back the 6 pounds I lost since October & some... All in the space of less than 2 weeks...But it seems to be bloating (fluid) as well as weight gain...also yesterday I had too much of chia seeds & flax...

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Ruthie- a completely different fridge is something I've hummed and hawed over a few times. The cost of a small fridge for the small benefit seems like a waste. It was worse while my brothers were still here. They would eat all the things I would buy. So when I went to eat something I would get my cortisol levels up cause I couldn't find anything that I had just bought the day before. lol

With my parents and my current living situation it's merely about me always being conscious when I put something in to my body. Something I need to develop a bit more.

Today after having green tea with some honey my throat starting to be slightly sore. Dang it! Guess I'll have to avoid honey now too. I used to remember constantly having sore throats pre btd. Having one now is just so annoying because it's been so long. The reaction I had to the honey was about 1/2 the reaction I get from shrimp. So yep, time to cut that out too. I was in denial about it.

Today for bunch I had toasted spelt sourdough with an egg and a bit of sea salt. A green tea with honey. About an hour later I ate half a pomelo. Those things are huge. I liked it, better than a grapefruit. In a bit I'll be making a broccoli stirfry that I'll have with some brown rice. It won't be as plain as I'm writing it out to be. I'll add garlic and paprika to the rice when I reheat it in the pan. Sesame seed to the broccoli with some wheat free tamari. Yum!


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Isn't it amazing how easily we can "get off track"? I've often pondered why it's easier to maintain one's weight than it is to lose it.

I had breakfast for dinner due to circumstances beyond my control. Breakfast was a Lara Bar; I didn't even have coffee as I found the travel mug outside on the fence post when I was leaving the kennel this morning. In all the confusion and frustration with the dogs, I completely forgot about it there. I did drink the coffee (cold) at noon...I hope that wasn't too late. Lunch was my awesome salad. Dinner was my two fried (in ghee) egg open-faced sandwich. Sauteed (in walnut oil) organic collards with fresh ginger root, garlic flakes, and ume vinegar.

Almost the end of day 4 and I can already feel the difference in my craving levels (or lack thereof). Yay! But I don't want to get complacent.


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Drea, good progress!!!! Thumbs up!

Christa, losing 12 pounds since Jan 1!!! Wow, you go girl!

Honey is a blackdot for me so I try to avoid it too. However, when I took a bit of organic honey the other day, it didn't bother me much at all. I wonder if the reaction you had was due to contamination in the honey. Did you read that article someone posted about the honey laundering by Chinese/Germans? There might have been corn syrup/sugar in your honey   Just a thought.


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My honey was from Northern Mexico. I actually thought it said Northern New Mexico (where I live), but after I ate 2/3 of the jar, I realized that was not the case.

I just finished another one of those wonderful lacinato kale salads, this one with celery, crimini mushrooms, green onion, fresh pressed garlic, feta cheese, walnut oil, and ume vinegar. I ate the rest of the golden raisins as a snack last night so had nothing to add to the salad that was sweet. But I did have two Lara Bars, one for breakfast and one at noon. Mondays are hard for me because I work the kennel alone and it's hard to get away to eat. Not impossible, and I'm going to make time every day for nutritious food.


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Christa; meant to say yesterday, well done on the 12 lb loss since Jan 1!!! Wow!! Think I know where a few of them went

But...as I suspected, some of my bloating was indeed just fluid...I have lost nearly 2lbs since yesterday & was up in twice in the night to pee...

Re the Epsom salts experiment...I have a customers who can't take Espom salts so was trying to research if you can be allergic/sensitive to it As I said, I have only been feeling bloated & gaining weight since I started this & yesterday all I had all day was a glass of water with 2tsp of E salts & drank plenty of water but didn't pee all that much & my ankles were swollen by evening Then after more water & a few pieces of cos/romaine lettuce (hand torn) for tea, I eventually got rid of some of the extra fluid...

Good going Drea!!!
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The honey I was getting is from a local farmer and I was so excited because he really loves his bees and takes care of them really well. No sugar water for them! It is also organic and unpasteurized. I was so excited too because honey is superfood on my Swami. *pout* Oh well. You live and you learn.

As for weight loss... I am so done carrying it around. I've used it as a protection (emotionally) for such a long time. I don't even know what it is like to be my healthy weight in my adult  body. So that is my goal for my 30th birthday this september. I have less than 9 months to go now. It's a doable goal for sure.

With cutting the sugar, just like cutting gluten... it's in everything! Except for veggies and fruit. I had my steel cut oats this morning and had no idea what to put on them. I ate them plain and pouted. lol I realized later I could've added some fruit. Silly. I have been making stir fry's which is great cause wheat free tamari, soy, broccoli, snow peas, cauliflower and sesame seeds are absolutely yummy together.


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With cutting the sugar, just like cutting gluten... it's in everything! Except for veggies and fruit. I had my steel cut oats this morning and had no idea what to put on them. I ate them plain and pouted. lol I realized later I could've added some fruit. Silly. I have been making stir fry's which is great cause wheat free tamari, soy, broccoli, snow peas, cauliflower and sesame seeds are absolutely yummy together.
Ummm hate to disillusion you but sugar is in fruit & veg!!?? Some of us have really to watch the glycemic index of these & things like carrots (esp. cooked) & bananas (just to name 2) are high... & there are those that have to watch fructose as well Maybe you aren't one of these??!!
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As per this thread I'm specifically talking about white sugar. Not veggie or fruit sugar. So no, not disillusioned at all.


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Location: Northern New Mexico
Age: 52
Day 6! Not technically a milestone, but I'll take whatever I can get. I'm making a concerted effort to get a healthy breakfast in my tummy every morning. Yesterday was a Lara Bar, but that's healthy (diamonds) on my Swami. This morning was my open-faced (read, one slice of 100% sourdough rye bread) fried egg sandwich with coffee and soy milk. All bennies or diamonds.

It's getting easier and easier. Last night for dinner I had a fried egg sandwhich (I may have topped my weekly allotment of eggs as I only get 7 per week, so I have to watch that). Perhaps I should make it one slice of bread and one egg, that way I can have it daily.

Then I had a cup of yogurt, plain. The yogurt I get at TJ's in organic and greek style. Love it. Then I was still hungry so I cut up a cauliflower and dipped it into a sauce made from yogurt, 1 Tablespoon Best Foods (an avoid, but I don't want to waste the jar ), cumin, garlic powder, and sea salt. That hit the spot. Not a sweet in sight. And while I pulled out the package of rice cakes, I put them back untouched after reflecting on eva b.'s comments on another thread.

I didn't sleep at all well last night because poor Tucker P had diarrhea and was asking to go out at midnight, then 1:30a, then 2a, then 2:30a, then 5:30a at which point he started throwing up as well. I finally crawled out of bed this morning at 7:30a feeling not at all rested. Each time I get back into bed, I squirted some Rescue Sleep (Bach Flower) under my tongue. The jury is still out whether I'm finding relief with that product. I love the single White Chestnut remedy, though.


Let go of resistance; feel appreciation for what is, and eagerness for what is coming.
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