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healthy4
Saturday, December 18, 2010, 3:49pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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If I have had an IGg allergy food sensitivity testing done, does that overrule my SWAMI results from my UBC apt...??

Thanks


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What foods are different?

I would just follow my SWAMI from UB. I would certainly go for the follow up appointment and bring my questions.


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Sorry I said IGg and it was the test from ALCAT and I don't think that is IGg, are you familiar with the ALCAT testing??  funny enough.... beef, raspberry, ginger, and a few others...foods that are beneficial on SWAMI came up avoids on my ALCAT test


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Dr. D has addressed this issue a few times over the years, maybe Lola wants to dig up the post, but I suggest staying with SWAMI, if something in particular bothers you stay away from it.

ALCAT costs quite a bit and the avoidance of the foods will not make you healthier, SWAMI will make you healthier.

So I guess it  depends on your goal.

I vote for getting healthier..


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I know i posted this on another thread, but I think this is very important to read. Here is someone who thinks that by removing food she will get healthier.

I did respond to her last post.

http://www.pickygourmet.net/2010/04/sibo-and-me/#comment-171


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foods that are beneficial on SWAMI came up avoids on my ALCAT test


you will be able to incorporate those into your plan, as you slowly but surely heal your gut and get your system back in the right balance


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hope pickygourmet is curious enough to join.....


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you will be able to incorporate those into your plan, as you slowly but surely heal your gut and get your system back in the right balance


Lola

although i realise that all of us are different however is there somewhat of an time frame as for healing the gut once in compliance of the BTD i.e. 90 days, 6 months, 1 year etc.?
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Depends on your compliance.
It takes about 3 months it for the bacteria in your gut to change, but it  could be a year or more for the white lines to disappear on your fingerprints. Each measures intestinal health.


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My IgG Assay showed me reactive to cranberry, garlic, pineapple, and almond which are all good for my "teacher" diet but also showed a very high sensitivity to wheat, barley, millet, bakers and brewers yeast, goat and cow milk which are all not good...due to my chronic sinus problem.
I avoided the reactive foods for 3 months then added ONLY my "teacher" benefit foods back one at a time. (Nine months later I am still eating them with no problem.) The result was an unexpected loss of weight, slow but contstant.
At least I learned that my "teacher" avoids are...just that!!! It helped me with discipline and to recognize some signs of detox and healing from following the "teacher" diet. I also learned that my sinus issues have a whole lot to do with my environment.


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Quoted from Harry O


Lola

although i realise that all of us are different however is there somewhat of an time frame as for healing the gut once in compliance of the BTD i.e. 90 days, 6 months, 1 year etc.?


I got relief from IBS almost immediately after getting rid of avoids. Of course, the deeper healing happens with the benes.

Polyflora rocks my intestinal world.  


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...BUT I think it's also important to note that SWAMI cannot take all possible food allergies or intolerances into consideration.  For example, eating watermelon (a diamond) gives me a bad thrush outbreak with the attending yeast overgrowth symptoms.  It's no fault of the SWAMI software; it's just that I don't handle fruits well if they contain large amounts of fructose.

If there are certain Superfoods that are not well tolerated, there should be plenty of other options available.  Not eating cranberry, garlic, pineapple, and almond (for example) would still leave you with a large selection of other beneficial items (but that's great that you could reintroduce them!)
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If it were me, I'd probably continue to avoid the "allergens found on the blood test" for the first few months, then carefully re-introduce them one at a time and see you your body responds.

OTOH, if it's the kind of allergic reaction where you need an epi-pen, I'd eliminate that food forever


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Quoted from TJ
...BUT I think it's also important to note that SWAMI cannot take all possible food allergies or intolerances into consideration.  For example, eating watermelon (a diamond) gives me a bad thrush outbreak with the attending yeast overgrowth symptoms.  It's no fault of the SWAMI software; it's just that I don't handle fruits well if they contain large amounts of fructose.

If there are certain Superfoods that are not well tolerated, there should be plenty of other options available. Not eating cranberry, garlic, pineapple, and almond (for example) would still leave you with a large selection of other beneficial items (but that's great that you could reintroduce them!)

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If it were me, I'd probably continue to avoid the "allergens found on the blood test" for the first few months, then carefully re-introduce them one at a time and see how your body responds.

OTOH, if it's the kind of allergic reaction where you need an epi-pen, I'd eliminate that food forever
I agree with both these posts I am still reacting to heaps, so am only eating one thing at a time
Was looking for info on nut/legume allergies, as it seems I can't tolerate macadamias
Sometimes I have seemed to tolerate them but yesterday after reacting to (just) yellow split peas at lunch, I had nothing else till tea time, then had a handful of macadamias (4-5 hours later) while making tea & reacted to them too   Am wondering what it could be that's in them in particular, that caused a reaction?

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"after reacting to (just) yellow split peas at lunch, I had nothing else till tea time, then had a handful of macadamias (4-5 hours later) while making tea & reacted to them too"

I always thought my food sensitivities were caused by damage to my intestines because I didn't have many allergies as a child and have plenty now.  I don't know a lot about leaky gut but it sounds plausable..."damage to the intestinal lining, making it less able to protect the internal environment as well as to filter needed nutrients and other biological substances. As a consequence, some bacteria and their toxins, incompletely digested proteins and fats, and waste not normally absorbed may "leak" out of the intestines into the blood stream. This triggers an autoimmune reaction, which can lead to gastrointestinal problems such as abdominal bloating, excessive gas and cramps, fatigue, food sensitivities, joint pain, skin rashes, and autoimmunity."

I wonder if there are genoUNharmonic foods, like if you eat something you react to you are more likely to react to other foods you eat around the same time?
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Thanks Kibble - kinda my thoughts too tbh... & I definitely can also be more reactionary to things if first exposed to anything environmental... I think that may be why I can sometimes tolerate certain foods & then not at other times...
Makes it freakingly hard to ascertain & work out/deal with Like a few weeks ago I had thought I'd reacted to macadamias, then ruled it out, since I then had them another time & didn't react I go round & round in circles & if it drives me nuts (oops bad pun there ) I imagine it must certainly drive others that way too
Must check if legume & nut allergies are related, as I am sure I remember they are?!
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I definitely can also be more reactionary to things if first exposed to anything environmental...

Must check if legume & nut allergies are related, as I am sure I remember they are?!

Toxins are combinatorial...  If you already sensitized to/ from something, you will have a much greater reaction to a new threat.

As nuts and legumes share some different components - proteins, starches, oils in certain combinations, the body may very well share some reactions...


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Thanks ABJoe... I just realised too, that cross reactivity to allergens would probably extend to environmental things like almond oil based makeup

I switch makeup etc around at times & yesterday I washed with an almond oil based face wash which went ok...But then I used a foundation again with the same oil base on both days which has been ok'ish for a while now, but I hadn't been eating legumes or nuts since trialing it...Now it seems I may also have reacted to it again

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I would take note of the tests and avoid the high foods foods for 3 months then introduce the beneficials only that where on the list, one a week for example. six months down the line I would introduce the neutrals.

but avoid all swami avoids regardless of what the test says!

Long term goal - follow swami. but make sure your input are correct and check them once in a while.



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If it were me, I also would avoid the reactive foods.  I had IgG testing and sardines came up as a reactive food.  I had never eaten sardines before the BTD/GTD, but after about six months on the diet started eating them about twice a week.  I never really loved the sardines, despite the fact that I love fish, so cutting them out was not difficult for me.

Whether you should add them back in or not is up to you.  You can try the elimination diet, still following most of your SWAMI compliant foods, to see if you react to them.  In my opinion, there is no need to have to choose one or the other.  There is no reason you cannot blend the two diets to achieve your optimal health goals.  SWAMI, while individualized, cannot take into account everything.  We are all individuals.


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