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KimonoKat
Monday, November 15, 2010, 2:51am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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KK here, trying not to be swallowed by that weight monster.

I've come to the realization that I can easily overdose on stevia.

It tastes so good though!  TOO MANY large glasses of ice w/gerolsteiner & /4 cup of pineapple juice & lots of stevia on top = being here --> a good portion of the day. Sure do love that stevia though. Sigh.

Made my own breakfast since Lewis had another bout of insomnia and was a sofa-king until about 11:30 am...   
I had 2 scrambled eggs, about 3 cups of fried in ghee and a cup of chopped okra, steamed.  

Lunch was a lamb patty & romaine lettuce & the last of my store bought salad dressing.  Evening snack, (since I don't think I have anything in my body now and it finally feels "normal") has been Iranian pumpkin seeds.

I've decided to cut my walk back to just the flats (1.9 - 2.0 miles) until I can get a girdle or brace to help hold my belly in.  When I hold it while walking, my back doesn't hurt.  


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I've decided to cut my walk back to just the flats (1.9 - 2.0 miles) until I can get a girdle or brace to help hold my belly in.  When I hold it while walking, my back doesn't hurt.  


That's a great idea. Start working those core muscles and you can be your own girdle.



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KK,
Go back and read that breathing exercise I wrote you about . . the one that strengthens the natural girdle.  



Normal day, let me be aware of the treasure you are.
Let me not pass you by in quest
of some rare and perfect tomorrow.
~Mary Jean Irion
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Quoted from Victoria
KK,
Go back and read that breathing exercise I wrote you about . . the one that strengthens the natural girdle.  


Thank you Victoria.  I will practice it tomorrow.



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about 3 cups of
What a lovely optimistic onion.



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Thank you Victoria.  I will practice it tomorrow.



I'm nearing the 2 month mark on the exercise and my severe lower back weakness and pain is 90% better.  I'm continuing, and continuing.

It was uncomfortable in the beginning, only temporarily.  Be brave.  



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I realized something today: since I haven't been eating sugar or wheat, I haven't been buying anything pre-made. All the foods in my pantry and fridge are whole foods. This can only be a bonus!
Yay, this is IT! You are already in the Land of Utopia! This is the way we were "just recently", in the 40's and 50's, going every morning to the market, choosing some fresh fish and vegetables etc etc etc: = Health!


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Yay, this is IT! You are already in the Land of Utopia! This is the way we were "just recently", in the 40's and 50's, going every morning to the market, choosing some fresh fish and vegetables etc etc etc: = Health!
Funnily enough before refrigerators became the norm??!! Funny that... Of course refrigeration made it more possible to transport food further distances & for women to cope with working long hours & still put a meal on the table at night due to ready made (refrigerated) convenience foods... Ppl sure are a lot less healthy though & the breakdown in society (from not as much cooking & eating together) is something else too

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True. I was referring more to industrial processed foods with 'shelf life'       


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Quoted from KimonoKat
KK here, trying not to be swallowed by that weight monster.

I've come to the realization that I can easily overdose on stevia.

It tastes so good though!

Interesting!  I've never had the stuff, myself.  I think I'll avoid it for sure now that you say that.  Maybe you should switch to agave nectar.  I use that and it lasts forever in my fridge, so that's how I know it isn't a trigger food for me.  If it were, it wouldn't last so long!
Quoted from KimonoKat
TOO MANY large glasses of ice w/gerolsteiner & /4 cup of pineapple juice & lots of stevia on top[quote]

That would be sweet enough with just the pineapple juice, me thinks.  Try a tad more pineapple juice and a tad less Gerolsteiner and see.  Or add some Tree of Life (or other brand) 100% fruit concentrate, such as black cherry, in with that...ummmmmm!


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It's the amount of juice, and stevia I've been drinking at a stretch.  Five or six glasses does it.  I have to just go back to plain water all together.


Refrigerators.  If you only knew what I dealt with in getting a new fridge....when you have an expert in refrigeration living in the same house....who has a touch of OCD.  The brand new SAMSUNG with twin evaporator coils wasn't perfect enough.

10 tiny fans installed, expensive shrink tubing, 50+ holes drilled into the plastic plate shelves and the door shelves.....plus the hours and hours spent modifying it to meed the experts' needs.


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Quoted from KimonoKat
It's the amount of juice, and stevia I've been drinking at a stretch.  Five or six glasses does it.  I have to just go back to plain water all together.


Could you confront the Gatherer tendency to go from one extreme to another?

Just try drinking regular filtered or spring water with a shot of your gerolsteiner in it to give some 'bite' ~ and maybe a dash of pineapple juice also, without the sweetener.

You might come to love it!  



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Let me not pass you by in quest
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KK,
Go back and read that breathing exercise I wrote you about . . the one that strengthens the natural girdle.  

Ooh, send it to me Victoria!


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Quoted from Victoria


Could you confront the Gatherer tendency to go from one extreme to another?


One extreme to another? Surely you jest.
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Just try drinking regular filtered or spring water with a shot of your gerolsteiner in it to give some 'bite' ~ and maybe a dash of pineapple juice also, without the sweetener.

You might come to love it!  


We are Gerolsteiner addicts.  It's our normal drinking water.  Love the taste and we get calcium.  I will "try" to wean myself off of the stevia and fruit juice, but that will probably happen when I run out.  

I first tried it with unsweetened cranberry juice.  Perfect. Loved it, so I tried it in other less expensive juices, like grapefruit and pineapple, or fresh squeezed limes.  In grapefruit it's really strange.  Love it with limes.

Before I started using the stevia, I would often drink Gerolsteiner with a dash of fruit juice.  Once I start, I would end up drinking too much fruit juice.  Such is the nature of my sweet cravings.

I think I've come a long way, considering how off the BTD/GTD I dropped .  

Late night sewing marathons fueled by liters and liters of and my favorite candy of the moment.

Since entering my grain-free restrictions, I've also been candy ~ junk food ~ fast food ~ popcorn ~ corn chips & Pepsi free.   The one thing I was adamant about: I never ate was wheat....but everything sweet or crunchy was fair game.

When I look at that, compared to where I've been to where I am now, I don't see   stevia   as a big of a deal at this point.  Although, I do keep in the forefront of my mind Adam's story of 1 cup a day of flaxseed and what that did to him.   

Lewis did find Umeboshi Plum vinegar.  Lewis tasted it.  It was to bitter/sour so he added sugar to it before adding it to our salmon salad one evening, as a change.  I couldn't understand why I had a blood sugar spike and crash later.  Come to find out, he didn't tell me he added white sugar to the plum vinegar.  His explanation was, "I didn't think it mattered.  It wasn't much."

That argument went over real well, lol.



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I love love love the taste of umeboshi vinegar . I do not like the taste of stevia .
I'm on Day 25 of my sugar/wheat free lifestyle. I do eat dried fruits, and I did add two tablespoons of date sugar to the last batch of cranberry sauce I made (a whole bag of fresh cranberries to one can of pineapple tidbits in 100% juice). I'm not considering date sugar to be the same as cane sugar; it doesn't seem to spike my cravings, and dates are a diamond. This bag of date sugar is made from pulverized dried dates and nothing else.


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It tastes so good though!


individuality and taster status again!!!


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Ha ha! KK, You really have come a long way back from that nose dive!! And the stevia won;t hurt you! I use it freely, yet not often. It's quite good in a drink like yours. It does make it tasty, but it spikes NOT the blood sugar! nor does it have calories. (do not fear it, P.T.)    and yet. to each his own.

I had a bad day yesterday....it is hard to fathom the depths to which I sunk....in one night, but then surfaced this morning to a righteous brkfast of eggs, scrambled. After our big art show, we worked so hard packing and cleaning up the hall....all the artists came back to my house for pizza (the show paid for it)  and wine (DH made it)....and I ate freely, coming back for more, then I had a piece of gooey pie of some kind...pecan? I can harxly believe myself!!! I was too tired to resist. But I imagine I'll be fine. So far, so good. I even went to Nia this a.m.!!!!

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KK,
Go back and read that breathing exercise I wrote you about . . the one that strengthens the natural girdle.  


Victoria, where is that?




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  I'll stop in later today and post that breathing technique!  



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Victoria, where is that?


It was in a private message.


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Wow...I made a great smoothie for lunch for DH and myself. To atone for our excesses!
It was dandelion greens, cilantro, pineapple chunks, blueberries, cranberry concentrate, ricotta cheese, eggwhite protein powder, lemon juice, stevia, a T. cream, and water to make 2 glassfuls. Lets see:all bennies except the neutral: cream.  
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Kimonokat and I were discussing lower back pain, etc. and I shared with her a Qigong breathing technique that tones the girdle of muscles that surround the mid-section.  This describes it:

I've been struggling with lower back pain for the past year.  Nothing has seemed to help until I learned a type of Qigong breathing.  I've been practicing it diligently for the past month.  I didn't notice any difference for the first week, except maybe my deep abs were very sore.  By the end of the second week, I seemed to have less pain in my back.  Now, a month later, my back is obviously 75% improved. (I'm now nearly 2 months into this practice and my lower back pain is 90% better.)  So, I want to share this with you in hopes that you might get some benefit from it:

Practice this either standing or sitting upright.

On the inhale, completely relax the belly so that it can naturally expand sideways and front to back.  Feel that the entire abdominal region is filling with air and opening up the belly and lower back. Don't 'push' the belly out.  Just keep the belly passive and draw the air down into the lower lungs, thus expanding the belly naturally.

Keep the belly relaxed as you start to exhale.  Resist the impulse to pull in the belly as you breathe out.  As you continue exhaling, your belly will naturally begin to shrink;  stay relaxed.  At the end of your outbreath, now is the time to begin drawing in, pulling in, tightening, compacting - - all the while, continuing to breathe out more and more, squeezing more air out, even when it feels like you have finished exhaling.  [[At the end of that tight squeeze, gently move your navel up (toward your breastbone) and down (toward your pubic bone) a few times.]] If you can't do this last step, wait until the muscles get stronger and try again.

Then completely relax the abdomen and lower back and begin smoothly inhaling, inflating the belly, sides and lower back as before, beginning a new cycle.

I'd advise doing it only once at a time in the beginning.  And then repeating it a little later, once.  And then later in the day, do it once again.  This strengthens the deep muscle girdle that supports the lower back and these muscles can get real sore at first.

Now, I'm doing 2 or 3 at a time and repeating the cycle many times a day.  This has definitely helped my lower back, and a nice side effects is the firming of my lower abs!  



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ahhhh, thank you, Victoria! I tried it and it felt deceptively do-able, but there a couple minutes later the muscles involved felt so tired!
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Thanks Victoria!


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I must need to be stronger because I can't move my navel down (can move it up, though).


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