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Victoria
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Quoted from Possum
Ummn did you read my signature below

I can't do carrots, capsicum or pumpkin, & am yet to find an organic source of celery I used to love that & live on it, till I looked at "the dirty dozen" In yours (or anyone else's) opinion would I be better just eating what veges I can (limited as it is) regardless of pesticides for now?


Yes, Possum   I know you had your chocolate, which does come from beans.  

As to your question about the dirty dozen, that's a good question.  Do you happen to have that list handy that you could post, and maybe get some intelligent feedback on them?



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Not all non-organic fruits and vegetables have a high pesticide level. Some produce has a strong outer layer that provides a defence against pesticide contamination.

"Clean 15" that contained little to no pesticides.

Onions
Avocados
Sweet corn
Pineapples
Mango
Sweet peas
Asparagus
Kiwi fruit
Cabbage
Eggplant
Cantaloupe
Watermelon
Grapefruit
Sweet potatoes
Sweet onions

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Hey, guys!
Thanks for the lists, Possum! I'm so lucky to have organic veggies easily available!!! Do you like onions? They are clean, and good for you.

KK, water-chestnut flour? hmmm, sounds like pancakes to me!
DH took me out to dinner...(a rare treat)...I had sea bass, yummy, and a drink which was.. a ramos fizz! I had ordered my new drink, a gin fizz...gin and soda water, but anyway I drank the ramos fizz. I t was good. We'll see what the scale has to say!!!

Hi, Victoria! thanks for the reminder about fat. I may be overdoing it!
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Quoted from jayneeo
Thanks for the lists, Possum! I'm so lucky to have organic veggies easily available!!! Do you like onions? They are clean, and good for you.
Might have to try them again...A few months back I seemed to be reacting to onion & garlic & a few other related things But of course it may have been a hyper sensitivity when combined with mould containing food??!!
I love onions 9as did my Grandfather - he ate them like apples ) I also managed with no ill effect to eat a huge amount of an out of this world buttery garlic sauce that came with our crab* (of all things) in San Fran!!! *I decided to risk both as it was daughter's birthday request  to have a crab feast... but as I said, I had less trouble with most things in US, perhaps from the drier hotter environment
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12 foods to eat organic and avoid pesticide residue with explanation
http://green.yahoo.com/blog/da.....e-residue.html?pg=97
By purchasing organic for the 12 fruits and vegetables.


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Thanks Lola That is the same as my first list... Should I delete mine & leave your link?
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not necessarily P.......but links in general, save precious forum space at times
thanks for asking anyways!

this post of yours with the list is short in comparison to other posters who like posting complete 3 paged articles and such.


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Aah;) Ooops...I never thought about "saving precious forum space" Have modified above posts;) Oooh maybe I should crack less puns & jokes?
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what would the forum be without the essence of P??


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No, never, Possum!  
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Aaaw, gee...thanks you guys!!!
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I'm amazed at how easy not eating sugar/wheat has become. I also realized today that I'm only eating brown rice or oat bran as grains. They're both diamonds on my swami.

I ate a lot of veggies, some fruits and nuts, some beans (in the form of soy milk in my coffee) and peas with br rice pasta, and eggs with feta. It seems like a well rounded food day. I stopped eating before 7pm and feel satisfied.


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Quoted from Drea
I'm amazed at how easy not eating sugar/wheat has become. I also realized today that I'm only eating brown rice or oat bran as grains. They're both diamonds on my swami.

I ate a lot of veggies, some fruits and nuts, some beans (in the form of soy milk in my coffee) and peas with br rice pasta, and eggs with feta. It seems like a well rounded food day. I stopped eating before 7pm and feel satisfied.

Great job!  


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KK here stepping on the on DAY 60, of my grain-free life to report:

I've lost 10 pounds!  Ten!  It's taken 60 days but the scale is finally moving in the right direction.

I'm off to take my short (2 miles) this morning.  Hopefully, Lewis will have breakfast ready by then.

And btw, Lewis has lost a few pounds too.  He can now easily fit in 1 size smaller pants.  Now I'll have to make sure all those have suspender buttons on them. More ahead!


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Quoted from KimonoKat
I've lost 10 pounds!  Ten!  It's taken 60 days but the scale is finally moving in the right direction.

And btw, Lewis has lost a few pounds too.


Congratulations to both of you...  It is great to see you making progress toward better health.  We want it to be sooner, but since this is a lifetime journey, 60 days is still rather short!


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Thank you ABJoe!

I started to make more noticeable progress when I added exercise.  Don't get me wrong, I do not enjoy exercise AT ALL!  There are times I am dragging my feet to get out the door because I know pain is coming.  About 10-15 minutes in, I have pain in my low back, pain in my degenerated right hip, pain in my left knee. After the low back pain gets too bad, I stop my walk and focus on stretching out my low back.  Sometimes it's my own fault for not stretching before I leave the house.

Years ago, I was told by my master bodywork teacher, William "Dub" Leigh that I had a combination ecto-endomorph body type.  He said, "Your mind is always at war with your emotions."  

I have that internal dialog on a daily basis.  

Mind: Exercise!  You know you need it.
Emotions: I'd rather sit at my computer and blog about crime.

See?

Since adding exercise, my mind is winning.  That's because in my mind's eye, I'm clearly focused on a goal. Weight loss first. Better health second.


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well done!!


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Possum ~ Love your posts!    (and you)

Drea ~ That sounds like an awesome food day!!  You're doing great!

KK ~  I'm more than happy for you and Lewis!  You both deserve these results;  you're working hard to achieve them!



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Possum's earlier question:
"In yours (or anyone else's) opinion would I be better just eating what veges I can (limited as it is) regardless of pesticides for now?"

I'm posting the 'Dirty Dozen', Possum, because your link didn't work for me.  So if anyone has feed back for this question, please feel free . . :

1. Celery
Celery has no protective skin, which makes it almost impossible to wash off the chemicals (64 of them!) that are used on crops. Buy organic celery, or choose alternatives like broccoli, radishes, and onions.

2. Peaches
Multiple pesticides (as many as 62 of them) are regularly applied to these delicately skinned fruits in conventional orchards. Can't find organic? Safer alternatives include watermelon, tangerines, oranges, and grapefruit.

3. Strawberries
If you buy strawberries, especially out of season, they're most likely imported from countries that have less-stringent regulations for pesticide use. 59 pesticides have been detected in residue on strawberries. Can't find organic? Safer alternatives include kiwi and pineapples.

4. Apples
Like peaches, apples are typically grown with poisons to kill a variety of pests, from fungi to insects. Tests have found 42 different pesticides as residue on apples. Scrubbing and peeling doesn't eliminate chemical residue completely, so it's best to buy organic when it comes to apples. Peeling a fruit or vegetable also strips away many of their beneficial nutrients. Can't find organic? Safer alternatives include watermelon, bananas, and tangerines.

5. Blueberries
New on the Dirty Dozen list in 2010, blueberries are treated with as many as 52 pesticides, making them one of the dirtiest berries on the market.

6. Nectarines
With 33 different types of pesticides found on nectarines, they rank up there with apples and peaches among the dirtiest tree fruit. Can't find organic? Safer alternatives include, watermelon, papaya, and mango.

7. Bell peppers
Peppers have thin skins that don't offer much of a barrier to pesticides. They're often heavily sprayed with insecticides. (Tests have found 49 different pesticides on sweet bell peppers.) Can't find organic? Safer alternatives include green peas, broccoli, and cabbage.

8. Spinach
New on the list for 2010, spinach can be laced with as many as 48 different pesticides, making it one of the most contaminated green leafy vegetable.

9. Kale
Traditionally, kale is known as a hardier vegetable that rarely suffers from pests and disease, but it was found to have high amounts of pesticide residue when tested this year. Can't find organic? Safer alternatives include cabbage, asparagus, and broccoli.

10. Cherries
Even locally grown cherries are not necessarily safe. In fact, in one survey in recent years, cherries grown in the U.S. were found to have three times more pesticide residue then imported cherries. Government testing has found 42 different pesticides on cherries. Can't find organic? Safer alternatives include raspberries and cranberries.

11. Potatoes
America's popular spud reappears on the 2010 Dirty Dozen list, after a year hiatus. America's favorite vegetable can be laced with as many as 37 different pesticides. Can't find organic? Safer alternatives include eggplant, cabbage, and earthy mushrooms.

12. Grapes
Imported grapes run a much greater risk of contamination than those grown domestically. Only imported grapes make the 2010 Dirty Dozen list. Vineyards can be sprayed with different pesticides during different growth periods of the grape, and no amount of washing or peeling will eliminate contamination because of the grape's thin skin. Remember, wine is made from grapes, which testing shows can harbor as many as 34 different pesticides. Can't find organic? Safer alternatives include kiwi and raspberries.



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I don't see romaine on the dirty dozen, so.....Possum, do you like salad? (I'm guessing, no.. ) wait, you do eat lettuce.....that's a good thing...with a tasty dressing, mmm.

KK!!!!!!!!! Amazing! TEN POUNDS!!!! I would be so proud if I could get there!!!!! I like your slogan, weight loss first, health second....because for some of us weight loss is the first step to health! It is a health priority! You are the trailblazer here on the grainfree express!

Brk. 1 egg, some red bell pepper strips, a turkey sausage.

(dinner last night was roast chicken, fresh g. beans, broccolini, butter, and a grainfree pumpkin muffin)
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I was away and sinned all over the place.. well its my problem.. reading the posts on here with all the fun pics is well ~ just what I needed to have  a good laugh and be happy I am back on the wagon..

your smilies.. plus.. are much fun.. thanks for the feeling of cheer.. a special gift to us all.. THANKS   

and congrats..

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   Amazing! TEN POUNDS!!!! I would be so proud if I could get there!!!!! I like your slogan, weight loss first, health second....because for some of us weight loss is the first step to health! It is a health priority! You are the trailblazer here on the grainfree express!


yes maybe it is time for me to change my slogan to yours..


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Compliance, compliance, compliance everyone.

You have to let the messages your mind gives you about compliance, sticking with superfoods, diamonds & bennies, weight loss is the goal voice .....over ride your emotional voice's need for that avoid food.




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Glad things are going well Drea re it getting easier!!

& wow Congrats KK!!!!That is awesome!!

As is your comment to me, Victoria!! You have made my day Right back at you
Oh & that link was Lola's... I was trying to "save precious forum space" by copying that link, instead of my list Btw that wasn't meant to sound sassy (cheek?)

I am about to go do a 5km (over 10 miles *eeek*) walk to work... Husband just took the car to get it serviced & I had the choice of leaving at 7.30 in the morning which would mean racing round & then hanging around once there for over 2 hrs as I don't start till 11am... Or walking - I am allowing 2 hrs (hopefully enough time) so will head off in half an hr...  It's an absolutely glorious day already so I am looking forward to the exercise & the sunshine!!

Hang in there Goldie & jaynee & anyone else..!! We're in this together!! Trailing after KK!! Re the lettuce!! Love it & eat heaps!! Hmmm wonder where lettuce particularly romaine (or cos = same thing) fits in that list??!!

Will post more details re my progress later...after work Must go pack my bag...
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KK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Congrats on the 10 pounds, that is fabulous!!!!!!!
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I started to make more noticeable progress when I added exercise.  Don't get me wrong, I do not enjoy exercise AT ALL!

*Tee HEEEE*!  I actually love my walking and get very antsy/like a caged animal when, for some reason, I can't do it (except for the rare days when I simply decide, for one reason or another, or for no particular reason, hey, you know what, I don't feel like walking today, so I'm NOT walking today), BUT:
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There are times I am dragging my feet to get out the door because I know pain is coming.  About 10-15 minutes in, I have pain in my low back, pain in my degenerated right hip, pain in my left knee.

I feel you on the pain thing.  You know of my back sitch.  It is good that you do stretching.  I can't do the child's pose anymore because of something going on in my right knee that I haven't posted much about (but will sometime) which I strongly suspect is really not my knee but my BACK...yet I kinda sorta don't want to find out, so currently I'm in denial, even though it has been going on for months with no change except maybe for the worse.  My fear is if I ever couldn't walk, even just for a while, like if I needed a knee replacement or back surgery or something.  I have a great fear that I would balloon back up in weight in no time flat.

Exercise is so key!  Good for you (and moi) for doing what you can do.  With your massage therapy expertise, I know you know what stretches to do, etc., to counteract the ill effects of walking.

I feel it is a Catch 22 for me, because I so need the walking, yet it does exacerbate my back sitch in some ways (yet helps it in many others).  Again, ya just do what you can do, ya know?  If you have access to a pool or place to swim (hello, Pacific ocean ALERT!), maybe that would be an option for cross-training?  I stay well out of the Gulf since the oil spill.  I'm not so much afraid of the oil as I am of the chemical dispersant. Anyway, just do what you can do, you are doing GREAT!  Ten pounds!




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