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Just recently I was on holidays and was really sick with sinusitis and a flu that went on for over a month (probably a bit stress related and it's winter here).  The change of climate and 'good' stress of the holiday made it worse.  So I grabbed a bottle of echinacea as well as some FESS (saline spray) for my sinuses (works well) and cough mixture (no additives).

1 week later of Echinacea three times a day (Echinacea Purpurea (Echinacea)herbflower 5000 mg tablets) I noticed my autoimmune skin condition is itchy all the time which is unusual.  My knees are swollen and achy, and tendonitis is bad again.  BTW the cold and flu, cough and sinusitis cleared up as well.  Just thought it was adrenal fatigue and kept up my licorice root tea and all.
10 days later I've got sensitivity to light, fatigue, just can't be bothered doing anything, feel a low grade fever today, my autoimmune mouth and lip condition is very flared up, depression, feel like crying all the time, burning around the kidneys.  

Just figured it was AF, tiredness and a little post-holiday depression.
Only just realised they are like the drug induced lupus symptoms I had last flare up when I took Sertraline six months ago.  

I was just researching whether I can add St John's Wort to my herbal arsenal and stumbled on the fact that you shouldn't take echinacea if you have autoimmune problems!  

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People with tuberculosis, leukemia, diabetes, connective tissue disorders, multiple sclerosis, HIV or AIDS, any autoimmune diseases, or, possibly, liver disorders should not take echinacea. There is some concern that echinacea may reduce the effectiveness of medications that suppress the immune system. For this reason, people receiving organ transplants who must take immunosuppressant medications should avoid this herb. (See "Possible Interactions.")http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/echinacea-000239.htm


Let this be a warning to you.  Though maybe I'm the only silly one who would try that.

From what I've heard those antibodies from the DIL could still be in me and I guess the echinacea enhanced my immune system so induced the autoimmune problems again.  This from someone who avoids wheat because of the anti-histones.  arggg!


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Oooh thanks for the warning...So sorry you are under the weather Take care - hope you feel better soon
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Hunters would also generally fall into the category of overactive immune systems.
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setting our systems in overdrive isn t advised.....


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I think I read somewhere that Os shouldn't take echinacea at all, due to our "already active enough" immune systems.

I do use it occasionally, in small amounts. Like when I stepped on that needle last week, I figured boosting my immune system for the first few hours was probably a good idea- I took one or two doses that day or the day after, then I stopped taking it. But I know better than to take it for a week straight, even if I'm ill!

I'm sorry you're feeling so lousy and I hope you get better soon.


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Just recently I was on holidays and was really sick with sinusitis and a flu that went on for over a month (probably a bit stress related and it's winter here).  The change of climate and 'good' stress of the holiday made it worse.  So I grabbed a bottle of echinacea as well as some FESS (saline spray) for my sinuses (works well) and cough mixture (no additives).

1 week later of Echinacea three times a day (Echinacea Purpurea (Echinacea)herbflower 5000 mg tablets) I noticed my autoimmune skin condition is itchy all the time which is unusual.  My knees are swollen and achy, and tendonitis is bad again.  BTW the cold and flu, cough and sinusitis cleared up as well.  Just thought it was adrenal fatigue and kept up my licorice root tea and all.
10 days later I've got sensitivity to light, fatigue, just can't be bothered doing anything, feel a low grade fever today, my autoimmune mouth and lip condition is very flared up, depression, feel like crying all the time, burning around the kidneys.  

Just figured it was AF, tiredness and a little post-holiday depression.
Only just realised they are like the drug induced lupus symptoms I had last flare up when I took Sertraline six months ago.  

I was just researching whether I can add St John's Wort to my herbal arsenal and stumbled on the fact that you shouldn't take echinacea if you have autoimmune problems!  



Let this be a warning to you.  Though maybe I'm the only silly one who would try that.

From what I've heard those antibodies from the DIL could still be in me and I guess the echinacea enhanced my immune system so induced the autoimmune problems again.  This from someone who avoids wheat because of the anti-histones.  arggg!



Hey Symbi
I don't do echinacea. Learned that a long time ago, I break out in massive itchy hives that requires several days dose of steroids in order to recover. Hope you are better!


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Symbi, would give a try to boswellia serrata as a general option in all cases of inflammations....echinacea is merely a flu indficated remedy... espec. for purest A's but not obligatory for us wish you a quick recovery...


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Kind Moderators   - Could we add St John's Wort and Chamomile into the title too please.  like "Caution Echinacea, St John's Wort and Chamomile for Reactive types" if that fits?  Didn't want to start a new thread so hijacking my own here.  And it's relevant for once   - it has more info about echinacea as well below.

Recently I had some surgery and wasn't able to sit very long (if you know what I mean) so I missed you guys lots.  It's healing well now but it was quite an ordeal, I don't recommend a haemorroidectomy to anyone.  The operation is as terrible as the word that describes it.  It was very painful with a long recovery time and not totally effective for me.  Was trying to fix years of bad eating / liver conjestion / adrenal fatigue (the first = straining on the toilet, the other two cause blood to pool in the abdomen -> haemorroids.  Of course constipation is much better on BTD/GTD but I still have haemorroids sometimes and often itching etc.

After all that (like trying to pass a pineapple at times) I got depressed, so I tried St John's Wort (recent research says it's a slight MAOi and an SSRI it has many mechanisms of action).  Even though it is recommended for Type A perhaps it's not good for reactive types either (and I wonder if that's one reason it's not recommended for Os with their overactive immune systems).  It works very much like a big pharma antidepressant (been on before) and stimulated me so much that sleeping was broken up, mood was better but....  
I actually saw colours at night after taking it with a meal of turkey.  Too much serotonin whoops  .  Sensitivity to light which I already have got unbearable and I couldn't live in sunglasses   .  It can cause cataracts eventually as can all antidepressants strain the pineal gland.  Constipation also not good.  More headaches (I think I'm low on MAO all the time really since amines give me headaches anyway).  Yep, typical Explorer to get all the side effects Thanks goodness for GTD and nonnie superhealing (am much better now btw)

When you raise serotonin it causes the body to produce more cortisol.  My fatigued adrenals don't like that at all and so I got burning adrenal glands (in the lower back) especially after adrenalin release (under stress).  

Worse was, we have mould in our house and my sensitivity went up 50x.  I could smell it and it caused me to cough and sneeze also a flare up of hay fever (many flowers blooming next door).  I ended up with a cold?, allergies and ASTHMA as well as fatigue and inflammation all over again.  Asthma attacks at night and some in the morning (have had that before but mildly), 20 minute coughing attack where I couldn't breathe.  Went to the doctor and they tested my lung capacity as 50%!  Given a corticosteroid inhaler preventer (It helped initially stopped on that now much better now) and ventolin (still use a bit).  So, of course, I stopped the tablet, didn't even last a week on it.  (BTW do you know asthma and migraines often occur together and often fixing the asthma lessens the migraines, makes sense the brain needs OXYGEN)  I get both so it's probably good that I got asthma diagnosed and treatment anyway.

If you're wondering if you've heard this before, Chandon (also an Explorer) wrote that she doesn't recommend SJW for Explorers and that it increased her sensitivity to mould (mold) she wondered if it's because it affects the P450 detoxification pathway.  http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1261510827/s-25/highlight-mold/#num25
Also My aunty told me that SJW put her in hospital with severe asthma too, I'm thinking she's a type B explorer / Nomad.

From research I can say it does that, it increases CYP3A4 (most antidpressants decrease that instead) which I was thinking may be a good thing since it detoxes oestrogen and I am oestrogen dominant.  I had my period on time instead of early which I'd expect after the surgery debacle, so it was beneficial in that sense.  Though it inhibits other enzymes as well so that could be why.

Or maybe it's because it is the same family as ragweed which is the cause of most hay fever in USA http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/27963.php http://www.virtualmedicalcentr.....ragweed-season/10212 and it's also in some parts of Australia including SE Queensland http://www.weeds.org.au/cgi-bi.....d=H44.  So SJW is not recommended if you have allergy to ragweed or daisy-like flowers.

This page http://www.breastfeeding.com/reading_room/herbs.html says that:
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For some individuals, St. John's Wort can have other very unpleasant side effects.  The combination of St. John's Wort and ragweed exposure can cause a very serious allergic reaction in individuals who have allergies, especially asthma


It also says about echinacea:
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Although its effectiveness is questionable, these studies suggest that Echinacea is probably safe when taken for short periods of time, except in individuals who are allergic to ragweed, chrysanthemums and related plants.  The Echinacea plant itself is a commonly recognized, purple cone flower that is a member of the daisy family.


Another cousin is chamomile (camomile) http://www.henriettesherbal.com/archives/best/1997/chamomile.html.  I'd been having camomile tea daily but have stopped that now.  I realise it was stimulating me rather than calming me down (and I had itching in the throat most of the time) - so maybe I was allergic to that too all along.   The asthma has nearly all gone now and the hay fever too.  Much better now compliant on GTD and not depressed anymore either.   Adrenals were stressed after surgery (had a fainting attack and shivering after anaesthetic) so I'm taking it very easy on them).  Will be back to full health really soon thanks to Dr D.

In summary if you are a reactive type, type O or suffer hayfever / allergies / asthma exercise caution using echinacea, St John's Wort or Chamomile.


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thanks Lola for fixing the title - good job, I guess anyone could find the full words if they search ('if you seek then you will find' as some one used to tell me when I couldn't find things because I wasn't looking)!  

Thanks Cristina, every bit counts!  Cheers!  


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Thanks Symbi, glad your better.

I'd heard about all of these but somehow never put it together. You fixed it in my mind, not an explorer, but as an O I can't take any of these. I'd like to add one more thing bananas,they have an enzyme that will make you more sensitive during ragweed season.

I'm going to try Nux Vomica for the other problem your having. This a family inheritance for me. I'm only one who hasn't had surgery, so far I've had less problems for a longer time. Thanks to BTD I hope to keep it this way.

I love your posts with all your research. Again so glad to hear your on the mends


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Only used the puffer yesterday once and am pushing away negative thoughts very well.  

Deblynn - you're welcome!  Hope that homeopathic remedy works, I reckon you're clever for NOT having the operation.  Milk Thistle helps mine while it detoxifies the liver too also healing the adrenal fatigue too.  Ginkgo Biloba is helping with circulation.  At least there's some things I can take  

Red Lilac - thanks mate, hope you are still on the up and up too.

Cristina - will check out your thread soon - you're obviously beyond exploring explorerhood and are fully entrenched in explorerhood now?  


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I was drinking dandelion tea and noticed that it flared up my eczema.  So I researched and found out it is also related to ragweed!  When I had flu tried some goldenseal but it flared me up too (also related)   (recently also found that emotions flare me up but that's another point).

According to this page (http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1457463) these foods can exacerbate ragweed reaction: melons, bananas, chamomile tea, honey containing pollen, sunflower seeds, zucchini, and cucumbers

and popular relatives of Ragweed are:
Dandelion
Goldenseal
Safflower
Milk Thistle (haven't used it much lately)
Artichoke
Chicory
Sunflower
Sage
and lots of other flowers and herbs
(that page doesn't mention St John's Wort or Echninacea but should)

Yikes even lettuce is on there that's a bit much!


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I see now why I got to the point that I couldn't use Chamomile anymore. I had used it for several years but right out of the blue it started making my stomach hurt when I would ingest it! I know that I am allergic to sage from a blood test. Thank you so much for posting all this information and the wonderful link that links to other information!


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Symbi, would give a try to boswellia serrata as a general option in all cases of inflammations....echinacea is merely a flu indficated remedy... espec. for purest A's but not obligatory for us wish you a quick recovery...


And thank you, Amazone for this bit of information! I going to take one right now. Eating watermelon and banana may be why I can't get over this stuff I've been dealing with even though I have not eaten any huge servings of either. Wow! To the nth!  


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And Symbi, please accept my belated wishes for your full recovery and much better days ahead! Both my parents and a sister had to have that surgery and it was a BEAST! All had complete recovery though. I have had an unabated horror of having that problem ever since. Faithfully have my full exam every few years for that very reason. Besides trying my best to eat as I should.


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What great information, Symbi!  I tried echinacea & St. John's Wort years ago (pre BTD) and had horrible reactions to them.  I also Googled them & discovered the ragweed connection (which I'm also allergic to) and haven't ever consumed them since.  I didn't know that many of those  on the list were ragweed relatives.  I'm always wary of taking herbal supps because of my allergies & hypersensitivities.  I hope you feel better soon!!!


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Symbi, I don't think it's about the plant echinace as being an A... but our question here is da amount and...explorerhood ....dito the same is for St. Johnsworth....didn't worked for me either...

btw.. this is now a really good option to discuss our problems with amounts of supplements and "chem-trails* ...called painkillers.....

another demand of myselve to share your explorer experiences... all about supps and painkillers... what are you doing for pains I try willow bark but with true moderate outcome  ... I use my Power Tube with great success but be assured- no-one will believe me when trying to explain what means to be an explomad

btw.. my mental and willpower got really very strong and now I am able to stand pains without using anythin but those powers... and yippie... pains are gone...

btw.. ok I use essential oils for bladderpain... like lavender/niaulimix or cajeput...directly on top.... and whithin minutes... silence....


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Amazone, I am thrilled to report that the Boswellia has worked like a charm!! My throat is 90 per cent better after taking only two caps.  I do believe that I am going to avoid an antibiotic after all - I still have my fingers crossed, but I am very hopeful, finally. This allergy/complication scenario is a whole new thing for me, and I would never have thought of taking Boswellia for it! I have other types of elemental reactions, but they are pretty clear cut - such as getting deeply depressed immediately after being exposed to natural gas or molds. But having flu/cold symptoms is a whole new ballgame for me. I haven't had a cold in over fifteen years so this round has had me completely puzzled in the way it has been determined to resist every supplement I have ever known to help colds. This thread has been a real blessing for me!!! Thank you to everyone who contributed!!!


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You're welcome Spring (except I now have to clean the cupboards, windows and curtains - it's spring here now!   ) You were doing well to not have a cold for so long.  Maybe it's a detox reaction, sometimes getting sick is the bodies way of spring cleaning.  I just got over a bad flu after trying an antidepresant for 6 weeks at low dose, probably all detoxed now.  Had to take antibiotics for a while for chest infection and asthma flare up (I know I know) also still taking probiotics.  My asthma is pretty much under control usually and only need puffers infrequently.  When I move away from mouldy house and main road probably never again!

Did take one echinacea and it's okay in a small amount to wake up the immune system.  Olive leaf extract was good too.  Elderberry is the best against flu.

The haemorroid operation was bad in that it created new problems when I was constipated after the op  .  Don't put a scalpel near there ever again!   I think copper deficiency was part of my reason for having them.  I wear a copper bracelet and take a little extra inulin fibre every day.  Now they're not a problem.  Still get some bowel problems if I eat incorrectly tho.

You're right, Isa, us Explorers should stick together and our extra sensitive bodies do alarm us when something we take is wrong it's good to share and warn others.  I try to avoid pain killers but during that time of the month with my problem it gets severe and affects mood badly even with all distraction, meditation and relaxing.   DH and DD probably suffer the most from my mood.  Take tranexamic acid to slow bleeding and when desperate codeine/acetominophen with milk thistle to stop liver damage (again only taken infrequently).  Hey they're offering me hysterectomy and mirena IUD or ablation so at least these things are only taken once or a few days a month.  Hope I can sit it out till menopause.  Don't do so well with asprin (tinnitus etc) so probably not willow bark or cramp bark either?  (sorry off topic but it's my own thread so I wth I forgive myself ! )
Am about to try Imigran for migraines (hormonal mostly) am not taking any serotonin type herbs or drugs at mo, don't think I really need help since increasing them on SSRI made my bowels go double time and they're good most of the time.  Only when I get bad autoimmune inflammation and that time of month depression hits.

This thread was started long ago.  I'm generally much better these days on my SWAMI Express diet and taking a few supplements too and further down the road of self discovery.  What a great journey it's been !  The journey is sometimes the most fun


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Kyosha Nim
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We just take Proberry and cut out sugar. seems to work great


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Quoted from PCUK-Positive
We just take Proberry and cut out sugar. seems to work great


Taking elderberry caps after being around really sick people is part of the reason I have avoided colds all these years. After my experience the last three weeks, looking back I don't think it was a cold at all but some sort of allergy with complications. After taking only five Boswellia my throat is back to normal - in spite of mulching huge piles of dusty leaves and pine straw the last couple of days. That would have been impossible a week ago. I am just so thankful that I had plenty of Boswellia on hand and that Amazone mentioned it!


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