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pradhr
Tuesday, March 16, 2010, 8:41pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Hi,

Seltzer water is listed as superfood for me.
Is there any thing need to consider if I drink seltzer water regularly i.e three to four times a week?
Because I searched the net and some websites listed the negative effect as:
Weakening of the bone and teeth.

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My O son drinks it everyday,   Hmm now seltzer is scary too what is next.


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I know that cola's have phosphoric acid and that weakens the bone/ teeth, but in the blood type encyclopedia that is listed under soda misc. I thought i saw that some seltzer water has quinine in it. I like'd to know about that.


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analyze all suggestions you read through BT lenses.....
an A and AB do not do as well on seltzer


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Tonic water can have quinine in it- but not plain old seltzer (or even the flavored ones.)


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Is there any other difference between seltzer and tonic water? Like pradhr is there any reason you should drink one and not the other. As a gatherer it's neutral, but I like to mix it with fruit juice to make my own "soda" I'm doing that now because I've stop drinking my lifeline of Diet coke. (for day off, cold turkey ) It would really be something if I was replacing my diet soda, with something that is just a bad.


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tonic water has all this junk in it....
seltzer doesn t


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According to the research, it seems that the benefits of drinking carbonated mineral water outweigh the possible risks(, at least in short term. Unfortunately, it wasn't based on blood types, being more concerned here.


{{ 2004 The American Society for Nutritional Sciences J. Nutr. 134:1058-1063, May 2004

Human Nutrition and Metabolism
A Sodium-Rich Carbonated Mineral Water Reduces Cardiovascular Risk in Postmenopausal Women1,2
Stefanie Schoppen3, Ana M. Prez-Granados, ngeles Carbajal*, Pilar Oubia{dagger}, Francisco J. Snchez-Muniz*, Juan A. Gmez-Gerique** and M. Pilar Vaquero

Department of Metabolism and Nutrition, Instituto del Fro, Spanish Council for Scientific Research (CSIC), Madrid, Spain; * Department of Nutrition, Faculty of Pharmacy, and {dagger} Department of Physiology, Faculty of Medicine, Madrid Complutense University, Madrid, Spain; and ** Biochemical Service, Fundacin Jimenez Daz, Madrid, Spain

3To whom correspondence should be addressed. E-mail: sschoppen@if.csic.es.

This study was designed to investigate the possible beneficial effects of consuming a sodium-rich carbonated mineral water on lipoprotein metabolism and to determine whether consumption of this water influences endothelial dysfunction (ED) in postmenopausal women. Women included in the study were amenorrheic (>1 y), healthy, and not obese (BMI < 30 kg/m2). The subjects did not take estrogen replacement therapy; supplements of vitamins, minerals, and phytoestrogens; or other medications known to affect bone and lipid metabolism. The study consisted of 2 intervention periods of 2 mo each, during which women drank 1 L/d of a control mineral water (low mineral content) for 2 mo followed by the carbonated mineral water, rich in sodium, bicarbonate, and chloride, for 2 mo.Body weight, height, and blood pressure were measured, and BMI was calculated. Blood samples were taken from fasting subjects and serum was analyzed for total cholesterol, HDL-cholesterol, LDL-cholesterol, triacylglycerols, apolipoprotein AI, apolipoprotein B, soluble intercellular cell adhesion molecule-1 (sICAM-1), soluble vascular cell adhesion molecule-1 (sVCAM-1), and glucose. Blood pressure levels did not change throughout the study. Carbonated water intake decreased total cholesterol and LDL-cholesterol levels by 6.8% (P = 0.001) and 14.8% (P < 0.0001), respectively, whereas HDL-cholesterol concentration increased by 8.7% (P = 0.01, compared to the control period. Therefore, cardiovascular disease (CVD) risk indexes (total cholesterol/HDL-cholesterol and LDL-cholesterol/HDL-cholesterol) were markedly reduced (both P < 0.0001). Soluble ICAM-1 and sVCAM-1 levels decreased by 8.4% (P = 0.007) and 14.8% (P = 0.015), respectively. Fasting serum glucose concentration decreased by 6.7% (P < 0.0001). Triacylglycerol levels did not change. Consumption of this sodium rich carbonated water can play a beneficial role in the prevention of CVD and the metabolic syndrome.

KEY WORDS: carbonated mineral water cardiovascular risk postmenopausal women lipid metabolism sodium bicarbonate}}




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Being an O myself, I am asking the same question why SELTZER WATER ?? Does it have to do with the pH values of body fluids? As meat eaters, our bloods  tending to be acidic, need to be neutralized with alkali-forming foods such as vegetables, fruits, herb teas, mineral supplements and mineral rich drinks ( Seltzer Water  ).

My question- is Seltzer alkaline anyway??  
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the study was not A specific, but what would they know, right?

it enhances our O digestion.....
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on water
the water drinking is only so effective. My advice is to get more water from water-rich foods rather than large glasses of water. Water from fruits and vegetables is matrixed into the cell structure of the food, which gets the water from the intestines into the lymph. Drinking water just gets it into the stomach, which sends it to the blood, which outputs it into the kidneys.


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Is club soda and seltzer water the same thing?
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It's the added ingredients such as phosphoric acid, caffeine and sugary  sweeteners ( in most soft drinks) that cause the body to pull the calcium out of your bones. Carbonation itself ( By infusing the gas carbon dioxide /CO2 into plain water, Seltzer water is made) is not the culprit for your bone loss.

Carbonic acid, a weak acid, formed when carbon dioxide is in the water, along with CO2 from the fizzy water, escapes before reaching your blood.

My question- how does Seltzer water aid digestion?



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it helps regulate, neutralize our high IAP

contrary to As with low IAP, drinking seltzer would lower theirs yet more!

have you read the erfyt book?


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Thanks, Lola, ABOall and thinks for the info ABOall. I think my question was answered in so far as I know that I can drink seltzer with a good O juice and   By the way only took a week and I don't miss my D coke.
If you knew me you wouldn't have thought it.


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you ve done yourself a great favor!!


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Hi, from what I have read about acid/alkaline balance, sparkling mineral water is acidic.

I don't know how that aids digestion but I did read about this benefit and I myself have gotten some help with my acid reflux by drinking sparkling water. If anything, the burping really helps me get rid of the pressure on my chest  .


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Balletomane, I know what you meant by the pressure-on-chest feeling. Now I recall to have tried once by chance some kind of sparking water which helped to release the annoying gas. I didn't think about why until now. I believe that moderation is the key, as with any medicine that heals only with proper dosages.

I learned a lot from all of you, thanks.


My question --- are there any better alternatives



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