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Symbi
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G'day!

Thanks to big help from my good friend Heidi, I've got SWAMI Xpress now!

SECRETOR AND GENOTYPE KIT
At the same time I've ordered the genotype testing kit and have got the kit from Pathlabs for secretor status.  (I know, I could have had the tests done at QML through my GP!  But am conscious of the amount of tests I've had (for free) on Govt. funded Medicare lately and don't want to ask the overworked doctor for these.)  Pathlabs sent me the saliva tube but no blood test tube, so I rang  them up and asked for that.  Two weeks after my initial online request, I now have the whole kit.  Fingers crossed that it goes smoothly from now on.

So, it's all happening finally!

CURRENT DIET
I've been following the Explorer diet out of the book (roughly) combined with BTD for the past 6 months or so.  That is hard to do, with the conflictions.  I added some red meats in.  Due to financial constraints couldn't follow it fully (especially the no wheat part) except for 3 months or so.  During that time women's problems cleared up and I easily lost more kilos and had lots of energy.  I'm close to ideal weight now BTW, but 2 years ago was 20kg (40lb) overweight.  The BTD fixed that!
Now those $ troubles have improved, and I've had the colonoscopy test and all (still waiting for biopsy results at mo  ), I've been back off wheat for the last two weeks.  It's been great, I've had less tinnitus / hyperacusis in the ear (less inflammation).  Never thought that would get better really!

MY HEALTH ISSUES
  • IBS has just been diagnosed (it alternates C and D mainly C) so I have to change from low residue to high fibre (had haemorroids too).  It seems sensitive to acid in my diet, so if I have too many spicy or acidic foods I pay for it with D.  Also it plays up when I have a virus or am weak - I wonder if it's measles I had as a kid in my stomach (can happen)
  • Had reflux with erosion but cured that.  The Type A diet was very helpful (like no tomato) also had to have no green tea or very acidic foods, can have those again now  
  • have chronic fatigue (low sodium levels) - salt is helping.
  • Anti-nuclear antibodies (seeing rheumatologist).  Autoimmune skin condition on face, autoimmune skin condition in mouth and lips (? erosive oral lichen planus - hoping to get that diagnosed soon)
  • When pregnant had preeclampsia / HELLP Syndrome so my liver and kidneys all played up and we both nearly died.  Poor bub was born low birth weight and induced premature.  I think it was because of autoimmune disease.
  • Hyperacusis / tinnitus - sometimes my own voice buzzes in my right ear, very annoying.  It's like a broken speaker in my right ear (from tropical ear infection and tympanic perforation) Seems alot better now without wheat!
  • Have cold sores around my nose and I often have tingling there - a sign that my immune system is low.  Also high since I have autoimmune disease  
  • frequent sinisitus
  • migraine headaches
  • metabolic acidosis (had this last year with the reflux, was too acidic, low calcium, kidney pains).  Also had slightly high creatinine.
  • womens troubles - menorrhagia, dysmenorrhea, irregular periods (early by up to 5 days), oestrogen dominant (on blood test but Dr didn't help)
  • tendonitis in forearms and ?carpal tunnel syndrome in left (getting tested)
  • iron-deficient anemia many times in my life and always on the borderline even lately having molasses and red meats!

My GP hates me!  


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I've figured I'm an explorer from my health troubles and measurements.  I was right!  At least 40% explorer SWAMI says, whether I'm secretor or not.  And wheat is a no-no definately (except spelt).

I have some questions for you SWAMI-gurus.

Having had preeclampsia with leaking kidneys and possibly slight kidney damage (nothing seen in ultrasound tho), acidosis and slightly high creatnine that goes down when I take bicarb in water twice a day (therefore helping the kidneys filter).  Do you reckon I should tick kidney disease?  
Also not sure whether to tick high creatinine / BUN since my eGFR is 76 (CKD2 (Mild) GFR of 60 to 89 mL/min/1.73m2 with evidence of kidney damage).

Also about liver, I did have my liver playing up with I had HELLP, but only for a short time.  I have red palms (ever since I got mouth condition) so I may have cirrhosis (may have antibodies dunno).  May have portal hypertension though because of the haemorroids that after being fixed are coming back  .

The family history.  My aunty died of MS, may she RIP.  Aunties don't seem to count as it has siblings, parents and grandparents.  Wouldn't aunties count since they have the same genes as your grandparents?  (well mostly tho you never know  )

Thanks for any help you can give.


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I assumed aunts and uncles were not counted in health history, since I did not see anything to indicate that I should include them.

I do not have the expertise to answer your other questions.  I will offer a generalization on the health issues: If you would like SWAMI to adjust your diet to treat a health issue (kidney, liver, ...) you should check the boxes associated with it. If you are not currently having symptoms and do not need to treat a health condition, leave the boxes unchecked.


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Oooh didn't realise you & baby had nearly died So glad you didn't!!! All the best sorting your swami out - excited for you!!
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Thanks C_sharp - that's very wise advice, since health conditions can change and aunties and uncles aren't mentioned.  I have to get used to the fact that it is a fluid diet that can change as your health does (and that's great!).

Lola and Possum - thanks for your kind thoughts!  Lola, SWAMI is getting better all the time? or my health is getting better.  Yes to both I think! and they are related  

I'm happy to have peanuts back (had been eating them lately after hearing that they are high in good prostglandins) and so many fruits including all my favourites (the berries!).  Knew carob would be a diamond since I love it so much and can't believe how hard it is to find, should be everywhere IMHO.  Will write more on here soon.


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Family - O+ DH and DD (both hunter-ish)
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Are you finding the SWAMI diet to be a lot different than the combined diet you created?

I think C-sharp's point of view sounds good. I wasn't sure whether to put that I have high cholesterol or not. My most recent test at the time I was filling out SWAMI showed my lipids were good (after being higher previously), but I was doing South Beach. My husband thought that if I have had some ongoing problems with that and wanted the diet to continue to help that issue, then I should say I do have high cholesterol. Well, since then, I'm not sure what my latest readings were, but the doctor said they were high. I am thinking that when my thyroid is off, they will be off; maybe South Beach was helping the thyroid and so that masked a lot of my problems.

My thought is that if your kidney issues are only partially resolved and that you could easily go back to them being worse if your diet changed, then I would check it off.

The preeclampia sounds so scary. I have friend who had that and nearly died as well. It sounds like you're making great progress with your health. I know how you feel about GP's reactions to your interest in your health. I feel like I am such a pain, myself. Now, seeing I'm being treated for the thyroid condition finally, I don't feel like as MUCH of a hypochondriac. I think, ultimately, my doctor must respect me because I have used my own intuitiveness to solve or control a number of issues, like improving my nerves by going gluten free and improving my asthma and GI problems dramatically by eliminating other things.
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Thanks Chandon,

So did you end up leaving high cholesterol being checked?  Sounds like a good idea to have that checked again to see if fixing the thyroid has fixed it.  You probably have frequent blood tests to check your thyroid now you're on treatment?  We sound like our own doctors - but you have to do that!  

You're doing so well being so proactive about your health well done!
Thyroid conditions can cause so many system-wide symptoms, no wonder you feel better (as well as being on the best diet ever).  For one thing, going gluten free certainly deserves respect and recognition as it's such hard work to do in this wheat world.

Having the diet now is such a relief because I was confused before whether to eat peanuts etc and which parts of the Explorer diet might be made for Type Os or other types who are so different to As.  I know that antioxidants like in berries feel good for me but then they have moulds some of them and the Explorer diet cut those out.  So I'm so glad not to have to question the foods anymore and to have such a wide range of food now.    Because the antioxidant foods agree with me (felt the best I had in years when I ate those) I figured I'd be a mixture between teacher and explorer and it has like mixed those and put me Receptive worldview.

SWAMI moderately deemphathised gluten Gliandin or Prolamine for me, maybe because I ticked Do you have a history of bowel or digestive problems?  It's good how it did that.  Also maybe becuse I have some arch fingerprints, it strongly emphathised Butyric Acid and Good Elimination Food.  It's genius since I have IBS-C!  Genius!

A funny mistake I made was for my height I put 163 not seeing (in metres) thinking in centimetres.  Yep 163 metres tall!!! Doh


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Thanks Chandon,

So did you end up leaving high cholesterol being checked?  Sounds like a good idea to have that checked again to see if fixing the thyroid has fixed it.  You probably have frequent blood tests to check your thyroid now you're on treatment?  We sound like our own doctors - but you have to do that!  

You're doing so well being so proactive about your health well done!
Thyroid conditions can cause so many system-wide symptoms, no wonder you feel better (as well as being on the best diet ever).  For one thing, going gluten free certainly deserves respect and recognition as it's such hard work to do in this wheat world.

Having the diet now is such a relief because I was confused before whether to eat peanuts etc and which parts of the Explorer diet might be made for Type Os or other types who are so different to As.  I know that antioxidants like in berries feel good for me but then they have moulds some of them and the Explorer diet cut those out.  So I'm so glad not to have to question the foods anymore and to have such a wide range of food now.    Because the antioxidant foods agree with me (felt the best I had in years when I ate those) I figured I'd be a mixture between teacher and explorer and it has like mixed those and put me Receptive worldview.

SWAMI moderately deemphathised gluten Gliandin or Prolamine for me, maybe because I ticked Do you have a history of bowel or digestive problems?  It's good how it did that.  Also maybe becuse I have some arch fingerprints, it strongly emphathised Butyric Acid and Good Elimination Food.  It's genius since I have IBS-C!  Genius!

A funny mistake I made was for my height I put 163 not seeing (in metres) thinking in centimetres.  Yep 163 metres tall!!! Doh


Yes, that's funny! You might need to eat a lot if you're that tall!

How lucky to get peanuts. Every now and then I crave them. I've heard before that they clog the liver, so I guess I am classic that way.

I'm a receptive Explorer too and I can see that I have many of the same foods I had as a Teacher, although some are neutrals. I feel like a Teacher in some ways, like personality, but at the same time, I have noticed how I do like to do things my way (especially when it comes to health). In some ways I'm a nonconformist, but in other ways I am not.

I talked to my doctor about testing the lipids and so I have a prescription for my next blood test, which includes that. I think that with the way I am eating along with the thyroid medication, I should be back to having fairly good cholesterol. I know my triglycerides have been creeping up over the years. I don't know if that relates to the thyroid or perhaps hormones. When I eat around 4 egg yolks a week, as I do now, my total cholesterol tends to be normal, so the fact that it wasn't does sound like the thyroid issue causing it.

You sound like you are doing a great job with improving your health. Plus your weight has dropped significantly.   SWAMI is so amazing that I think you are going to find it helps with IBS. Have you taken any of the supplements? I wonder if Live Cell or DEFLECT would be good. Or perhaps polyflora A. I have a feeling that all the spicy food I was eating, along with tomatoes, really had messed up my digestion, leading to issues like diverticulitis and spasm. Eating the GTD or SWAMI definitely is high fiber. I was tracking my calories and nutrients for a while and my fiber intake was really good. I used to count my fiber grams before going on the GTD in earnest. The diet made me feel so much improvement, I found that was no long necessary. Maybe berries, which are great for the GI tract, will make a big difference with the IBS!

Any good genoharmonic combinations?

I bet you're having fun with your new lists!
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I hope it all comes together for you there Symbi...I'm rather fond of you.  Sounds like if you are gonna make strides against that list of issues, you are doing the best thing for yourself with Swami.  I think it will all sort out and in 6 months you will list your great improvements.  xo
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Weight loss certainly became easier for me on Swami.

Pre-eclampsia had left my wife with a football for a foot with little toes like weird studs, when she was pregnant with our first.  

Who is the cutie in your signature, btw?


My weight loss goal: 220 lbs.  A 6'4" dyslexic oddball: the size of a line-backer, the silhouette of Winnie-the-Pooh.
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Hey Symbi! Isn't SWAMI great? I don't think any Explorer should be without it.

Paul, your wife is an A Explorer too, right? Makes one wonder if there is a higher risk of preeclampsia among type A Exlorers   ( I had it too)






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Did you, Heidi?  Isn't that interesting?  

I agree that Explorers should get their Swami.  The Explorer diet could easily have been made into four diets:  A,AB,B, and O.  That would have undermined the concept behind the Genotype book.  Since it works so well, why fix it?  

Now, Heidi, how does anyone identify the Explorers who think that they are some other Genotype?  To help them get Genotyped by a professional, even if they will not go to a practitioners or get Swami help, would be a great service.  I may have some kind of sense of being able to identify Explorer women by their bone structure, but that is totally subjective.


My weight loss goal: 220 lbs.  A 6'4" dyslexic oddball: the size of a line-backer, the silhouette of Winnie-the-Pooh.
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Thanks for the messages everyone!  

Sorry for the delay!  I've been running around seeing specialists and doctors and know it alls who really don't.  (A friend on facebook said, they know how to get big commissions from drug companies though

Well I don't have an autoimmune disease according to the rheumatologist, although my ANA has gone up to 640/1 (40 is enough for lupus diagnosis).  I think it's just they don't know what I've got, also I had the blood test on a good day so there was no inflammation.  (They haven't tested me for every antibody tho.)  We explorers don't like losing blood and need energy for all the other things we have to do!  Hoping the oral pathologist soon with diagnose my problem (it's inflammatory autoimmune mouth condition).  The great diet, fish oil and EPO I take is helping, along with Vitamin A and Zinc (because it's a never healing mouth sore for 8 years).  

I reckon I've got adrenal fatigue.  It's confirmed a bit more as my IgM was low in the immunoglobulin (Love to see Mr Bean say that) test.  Dr said that's nothing to worry about.  Though from what I've read, it means I'm more susceptible to infections, can mean autoimmune disease, and confirm adrenal fatigue.

So that was kind of a downer as they haven't helped me and have dismissed me like I'm wasting their time and making things up.  I still have fatigue, low blood pressure, craving salt, pains around the kidneys, swollen saliva glands alot of the time.  Well I'm going to get Dr. James Wilson's Adrenal Fatigue book and try licorice tea and go to bed early like a good girl (haven't been able to go to sleep easily last few nights).

I've been adding new yummy foods and enjoying it.
Eating peanuts again feels great, good to carry around as a snack.  Had a carob bar (yum!), carob powder hot drink, made a veggie and lentil soup with turmeric and ginger.  Have some rye bread (neutral), flaxseed bread (neutral).  Bought some millet to try soon using Victoria's cooking method.  Enjoyed lamb with cranberry sauce (new taste zing sensation!)  Cranberry juice is high in my genoharmonic combinations and I usually have that to stave off UTIs and yeast anyway. Nectarines, grapes (neutralI've been having that a bit more.  Already was having turkey and knew it would be a diamond!  Feeling good physically and lost 1 kg last week already!  Still have a little bit to lose around the pear posterior.

Lots of rice like I was already eating.  Only a bit sad that rosehip tea is a black dot, really enjoyed that from the book explorer diet.

I'm going to get the genotype kit today in the mail I think.  So I'll find out taster status and can take my fingerprints (already know what they are I think but may need help).  Will let you know! I did the blood test and saliva test for secretor status yesterday and posted those off, so I'm so looking forward to that result.  When I have those, SWAMI will be pretty much complete and I'll print the report out.  Till then it could change quite a bit.

One way I know SWAMI is right is barley is a black dot.  It really doesn't agree with me.  I'm fine with oats though (neutral).  Wheat is avoid except durum semolina is neutral.  I think it's assuming I'm a secretor if you don't choose an option.  I really don't mind if I'm a nonnie or not.  As a Nonnie I'll get tomatoes and yams and more meat.  As a secretor I'll get pasta, corn and oats as a neutral (it's never really bothered me) and other wheat types as a black dot.  It's all good!


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Family - O+ DH and DD (both hunter-ish)
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I'm between taster and Super-taster!  Well it's hard to count how many taste buds you have with the blue dye.  But the bitter taste is still lingering even after brushing and mouthwash.  It was a foul taste and I was repulsed by it after five seconds which it took to register the taste.

I've gotten used to bitter tastes, though, because they are in foods that are really good for you.  So probably I'm between taster and super-taster.  Very fussy about tastes though.  Can be a liability because you end up doing your own cooking!

Put in super-taster has put my Explorer % up, hasn't seemed to change my diet at all.


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Weight loss certainly became easier for me on Swami.

Pre-eclampsia had left my wife with a football for a foot with little toes like weird studs, when she was pregnant with our first.  

Who is the cutie in your signature, btw?


Hi Paul, Thanks for the message!  Wow football foot that's not good!  Funny description though sounds cute.  Glad she didn't get it again on your second child.  You have two right?

That's my DD Georgia.  She's just started school, she's 4 1/2.  She's loving it.
Glad your BP is back down I read, KUTGW


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Hey Symbi! Isn't SWAMI great? I don't think any Explorer should be without it.

Paul, your wife is an A Explorer too, right? Makes one wonder if there is a higher risk of preeclampsia among type A Exlorers   ( I had it too)





SWAMI is wonderful and seems essential for Explorers.  Thanks to you I have so much more variety of food now!  The book diet is pretty spartan and totally un-A like (I couldn't totally follow that!).

So that's three Explorers that had pre-clampsia?  Glad we all got through that okay.  Phew! Heidi advanced to eclampsia after pregnancy and mine advanced into HELLP syndrome.  I hope your wife and baby were not affected badly? Paul?

Pre-eclampsia is a mysterious disease but is linked to autoimmune disease (which Explorers sometimes get), kidney problems (another Explorer susceptibility).  One theory is that the mother reacts to the protein from the male sperm.  That's why it's less likely to have on subsequent pregnancies.  Sounds like a reactive response to me.

I don't like the way having had it, slightly increases your risk of migraines (another Explorer problem) and cardiovascular disease later in life.  One reason I've lost weight and been super vigilant on health since then.
I read up on it a bit trying to understand it. After what I went through wasn't game enough (and don't have the energy) to roll the dice again.  But that's okay and it's all turned out good in the end.


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After what I went through wasn't game enough (and don't have the energy) to roll the dice again. I bet... Glad its all good though..

I was told with my first pregnancy that there was "protein in my urine..." At 19 all I understood then, was that I had been overdoing it... Any other thoughts on that, in light of the above discussion..

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Hi Possum,
I read that preclampsia is common in teenagers too because they haven't been exposed to many kinds of different proteins (sperms) so their immune system may over-react to the unfamiliar sperm protein and that causes the preeclampsia.  

Being a teenage Mum you should have had lots of energy and been a healthy Mum for your children.  My Mum was 18 when she was pregnant with me too, and she was great, we are very close.

Did you get all swollen up as well?  My feet were like stumps and I put on 20kg while I was pregnant.  Everyone though I was having a boy as the tummy stuck out so far, had an ultrasound early cos they thought I was further along than I said.  You must have had the high blood pressure with leaking kidneys?  Glad you didn't get it again and got through it all ok?

BTW that wasn't my first pregnancy (had miscarriages before) so that theory about sperm protein doesn't totally apply to me.  Probably the autoimmune connection.


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Hi Symbi.. Nah I actually had no probs at all - I only just remembered about the protein comment, so was just curious...
My blood pressure was on the low side - I remember that being noted...thought that was a good thing (after all the stories about high bp being so bad)- but I realise differently now... Heard recently that low bp is worse in some ways??!!
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[quote=607]Did you, Heidi?  Isn't that interesting?  

Now, Heidi, how does anyone identify the Explorers who think that they are some other Genotype?  quote]

Yep, I was swollen up like a football pretty much everywhere   Ended up having a stroke. Pretty scary. Thankfully I got two babies for the price of one because, like Symbi, we were never willing to risk another pregnancy.

I don't know of a foolproof way to spot an Explorer. But anyone who used the book to determine GT and came up with Exporer would find a much more vaired diet with SWAMI   I couldn't stick to the "by the book" diet for more then 4 months, but have no problem at all following my new and improved GT4 diet plan.

Symbi, you sound more like a super taster to me then just a normal taster. My DH and one of my daughters are normal tasters. They tasted the strips but did not react to it very strongly at all, just kind of a "yeah, I can taste it but it's not that bad" reaction. My other daughter and I had a much stronger reaction and the taste lingered for a long time, dispite brushing and eating.  



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Thanks Heidi,
I'm not sure if it's the number of tastebuds or how sensitive I am to everything including taste.  I like the idea of being a super something!    Wonder if this superpower could save the world from mould or something like that?

Your new picture is great!

One reason that I think I'm an Explorer is the assymetricality (wow long word).  I also have a Brun type face with angular.  Like you say, Paul, I have wide cheeckbones and wide forehead and large hips.  Seem to have Os and As in my family, and we're Western European.  

When I read the part in the book about Explorers adapting to wildly changing conditions - I got it!  Must have chose this genotype in utero cos I knew what was coming for me (Mum smoked while preggers too btw).  I've had alot of wildly changing conditions: 12 schools, 5 different families, 5 hometowns, more than 15 jobs.  Change, change, change.


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Hi Symbi,

Have you gone gluten free at any point--I realize it is challenging and means really scrutinizing labels--but gluten can really affect the adrenal glands. I found that I had so much more energy when I went gluten free. I avoid wheat, barley, rye, and oats, plus all the derivatives of them. I tried to reintroduce oats and they definitely affected my nerves. I felt so much more energy when I went gluten free. I didn't have the classic celiac disease symptoms; my digestion seemed pretty normal. It seems that it affected my nerves, adrenals, and skin. I found that I had to avoid skincare and makeup with wheat and oat related ingredients.

Of course, something else could be what is wearing you down.

I love grapes. They're neutral for me now. I'm looking forward to eating them again. Right now I'm having some kumquats in yogurt.

Wow, wouldn't it be something to get tomatoes back!
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Hi Lola, I did let SWAMI compute genotype and so far it's 44%.  Just trying to defend that I belong in Explorer-hood I guess.  Would love, btw, to have a professional consultation and hope to in the future sometime, would have to travel at least 1000 km to Melbourne for that.

I remember that you also had alot of changes in your life and you're an Explorer.  It's interesting!  

Meanwhile, still waiting for secretor status.  
I heard today that Pathlabs received it in the mail .  However, they haven't got the saliva sample yet.  Their packaging means that the blood and saliva cannot go together.     

Should be 10 days till I know I'm a nonnie or not, fingers crossed it gets there okay and comes together!

BTW Made ghee the other day but didn't cook it long enough so it's very yellow.  It doesn't have that sweet flavour that ghee should have.  So I guess it's clarified butter (same diff tho).  Next time I will cook it longer, turning it a little brown / dark golden gives it more flavour.


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Thanks Heidi,
  Wonder if this superpower could save the world from mould or something like that?

Your new picture is great!



Lol  

And thanks, I figured I'd add a more Spring-ish photo for a while  




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I haven't moved around a lot, like one might think an Explorer would, but I think I'm rather adaptable. Also, I like to have variety in my work so I don't get bored. I suppose I'm a bit accident prone.

My face is on the asymmetrical side. My husband's definitely is; I believe he's an Explorer as well. He's an O who doesn't seem to need much beef in his life and seems to thrive on a turkey-rich, lighter diet.  It's great that we seem to do well with a similar diet.
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Wow, Heidi, 52% Explorer is a high percentage!
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Thank you, for your sympathy re the pre-eclampsia.  

DD was born three weeks pre-mature and was kept in an incubator for six weeks.  She is now ten years old and about five feet tall - Warrior anyone?  Seriously, her face is very much like mine except that her head is much thinner, with a wide gonial angle.  It is possible that the pre-eclampsia, the C-section, and the incubator (none of which were by choice) forced her into the "rapid maturation" epigenetic pathway.  Otherwise, she might have been a Teacher or Explorer.

DS went full term, and was ten pounds (like his father).  The only issue with the pregnancy was DW being asked if she was carrying twins from about the fifth month.  DW still seeking to loose from that time!

Heidi, is your husband type O?  Explorer A woman's first child with Type O man gives result of pre-eclampsia.  Could this be a pattern?

Excellent advice, Chandon!  I try to keep gluten-free with my own baking, not being able to say "no" to bread without saying "yes" to some other baked good.  Symbi, you should try going gluten-free.  At the least, having gone gluten-free, you can eliminate it as an unknown when you are tracking down the cause of what ails you.

Given your tasting experience, Symbi, I would put Taster or strong Taster, Symbi.  At least for me, the taste was very quick to register, and lingered for Hours.  Nothing I tried could take it away!  

Seeing that Explorers are typically independent, suspicious of medical advice (in general) and dealing with issues that are out of the ordinary, it is not surprising that Dr. D' Adamo has allowed us the freedom to try and experience the results of our choices.  The result of his particularly promoting Swami for Explorers would have been presumptuous, without respects for the choices of his clients, and above all giving advice heedless of the epi-genetic individuality of Explorers!

The choice he made is good for many reasons.  I would like to hear from any Explorer who does not see Swami as being necessary for their health.


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I'm glad to hear how healthy your DD is, Paul, and that your wife is doing well after that. Sounds scary.

SWAMI really has helped me, now that I have the correct information in it. While there is a lot about my diet that is O-like, seeing I'm an Explorer and need meat, there is definitely a lot that is A-like and even Teacher-like (I'm a receptive Explorer), so it's nice that I have SWAMI to blend all of that together.

I had put off going to the hair dresser because I had lost some hair last fall after being on the Teacher diet for nearly 6 months, which started growing back in with my Explorer SWAMI, even before I added the thyroid issue to it. After about 3 months using the Explorer diet and 2 months on my updated SWAMI and taking the thyroid medication, my hair dresser said I should do whatever I'm doing because my hair looks very healthy. I have to say that my hair really seems to reflect my health.
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Symbi!  I relate to your ANA issues.  Back when I was in my 20's I had this happen and I was sick for quite some time.  I had huge nasty lymphnodes swollen in my neck that were surgically removed and as he pulled them out he exclaimed how foul they were...I was awake for the procedure.  My ANA was at the highest titer yet my RNA did not show up as having RA or anything like that.  They did diagnose me with Lupus but frankly that was wrong IMO as later docs disagreed.  I had huge fatigue and laryngitis for 6 weeks at a time.  Back then I tried BTD and with some red clover I was feeling much better and the lumps all went away.  I made sure I stayed off antibiotics...docs kept giving them to me...after 2 years of no antibiotics my ANA was normal.  I also started "speaking up for myself" and the laryngitis went away.  I was told that if you don't use your voice it gets taken away.  Anyway...I know you have other issues but I can tell you that it is possible to get better.  I think a big part of it too is stress.  I don't know your life but I know from a few things you have shared you've had a lot to deal with.  If stress is an issue deal with that as your key thing.  If not just tell me to hush.  Be good to yourself dear sweet Symbi.  I want you to feel better.  I also dig your Explorerness!
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Thanks for the posts everyone!  

I'm not feeling the best at the moment.  My Dr gave me Zoloft (SSRI - antidpressant) and I've been hibernating like a bear in winter since that (4 days napping lots during the day).  Also got terrible pains in the kidney area, getting burning in the stomach and reflux.  Seems to be helping with the IBS and sleep, I have less aches and pains but it's not worth it.  
I'm guessing it's stressing my already stretched adrenals to the limit.  Also getting heart palpitations and small anxiety attacks.  I saw a website that reckons how they work is by increasing your cortisol and adrenaline levels while taxing your adrenals (no one seems to really know for sure!).  Well mine are already taxed (not that I've had that tested), I have so many symptoms of adrenal insufficiency including the recent low IgM lab value.  Going to have to bring this up with my GP tomorrow, I won't be staying on them.

Will have to look into natural remedies for increasing serotonin though.

Lori - Thanks!  I dig you too   I did when you came out to be a Secretor, nonnieness suits you!
Thanks for the kind words.  Glad you got your ANA down, mysterious stuff.  I avoid antibiotics too, haven't taken for 5 years.  Taking your glands out to have a look sounds terrible!  About not using your voice, it gets taken away.  That's quite deep.  
You perceive correctly (and I'm not offended at all) stress over my whole life has been a problem.  I've reserved Dr. James Wilson's Adrenal Fatigue book and will be closely following those recommendations along with SWAMI of course.  Also may consider cortisol saliva testing, especially if GP doesn't test adrenals soon.  

Chandon - glad your hair and the rest of you is so much better now you're on a diet tailored just for you!  Keep on taking care of yourself and getting better!

Paul - thanks for sharing and glad things worked out okay for you all after all of that.  It could well be a blood type incompatibility, Dr D mentions that in ER4YT as a cause for preeclampsia and there is info on the website somewhere too.  I know it's really hard when your baby is in an incubator and in the hospital for a long time.  
So glad you didn't have to go through it twice!

Great idea Chandon on going gluten free, SWAMI has moderately deempathized gluten and prolamine foods, so oats are neutral but wheat is all avoid except sprouted is beneficial and semolina is neutral (even if I turn out to be a Secretor!).  I've been 95% wheat free for a few weeks now.  Yesterday I had autoimmune inflammation but it wasn't as bad as it usually is and is basically gone today after lots of rest.    Also wonder if it's the EPO (along with usual fish oil) I've been taking this past month it's helping too.  Now that's a neutral so I know I'm doing the right thing too.  


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Awww symbi... you poor thing... Did you say you were going off the zoloft? "Going to have to bring this up with my GP tomorrow, I won't be staying on them." I hope so??!!

Wish there was something more I could say...other than I feel for you - take care... & don't ever forget you have a family/community here that cares so much for you Hope the doctor can tell you something tomorrow... You probly know all this...but:

Eat slowly digested carbs such as oatmeal, whole grains,  beans and lentils will release insulin into your bloodstream, which in turn will cause tryptophan-- the amino acid from which serotonin is made--to freely enter your brain and increase your serotonin levels.

Get more light. Exposure to light stimulates serotonin stores in the nervous system and works in a way similar to Prozac. Clinical light therapy sessions can be expensive and hard to come by in some localities, but even going outside more, increasing interior lighting and minimizing your use of sunglasses can be effective.

Decrease your stress. stress robs the brain of serotonin. Exercise, especially aerobic, and meditation (yoga) are effective stress relievers and help to keep away the need to relieve stress with junk food.

Sleep longer and better. Serotonin levels are replenished during your sleeping hours. To get a better night's sleep, eat your bigger meal at lunch and eat lightly at dinner. Avoid too much protein right before bed. This will allow you to not only sleep sounder, but will aid weight loss goals by forcing your body to burn fat stores instead of recently ingested food.

Take a vitamin B supplement. Vitamin B is necessary for serotonin production and is quickly used up during stress and times of high energy output. If your diet is rich in green vegetables, whole grains and dairy products, you're probably getting enough. But if your nutrition is inadequate, consider taking a B complex supplement (the various B vitamins work best in your body when taken together). Pay particular attention to your intake of vitamin B6, which affects the rate at which tryptophan converts to serotonin.

Increase your calcium and magnesium. Both nutrients are important for serotonin production. Eating plenty of nuts, dairy products and green vegetables should give you an adequate supply of both, but consider taking a supplement if your diet is lacking.

Decrease caffeine, alcohol, sugar and artificial sweeteners. These stimulants may make you feel good temporarily, but they are poor substitutes for serotonin, the real "feel good" natural chemical your body produces. They also can make it harder for your brain to balance your moods. Artificial sweeteners also can interfere with your body's natural hormone operations.

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Thanks guys!  There are some great tips there thanks Possum!

I am good on avoiding sugars and quick highs like that.  Sunlight and exercise could be just the ticket.  Also not eating so much at night is a great idea to sleep better.  I don't really need to lose any weight but don't want to put any one much either (got rid of my fat clothes  ).  Zoloft has made me feel so lazy and I'm sure it'll cause weight gain with me, another reason to avoid it!  Mainly what's worrying me with it is the constantly burning kidneys.  I take that to mean it's either too acidic (but even taking bicarb in water isn't helping it), or it's taxing my adrenals.  Also the fatigue has got worse.  I never expected such nastiness!  Really should have researched before popping the pill.   At least it's not Effexor which I hear can be the hardest to get off.   Lots of people around me and in the family are on these things permanently.  

Am taking Calcium with Magnesium, should get more B vitamins probably especially now not having wheat.  

I think the adrenals are part of my problem.

Definitely need to get to bed early and regular sunlight I'm sure for the adrenals too!  You're so right Possum, lifestyle changes can make a big difference.  Thank's for caring.


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Hey you're so welcome... Let us know how you get on with your Dr... Sweet dreams...
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hey Madl Symbi, how can you support such medication as being an explorer No side effects in your case.... and how many time did it took for you to go off such a medication....

I do have a lot of clients coming to me for advices how to come off those meds; I only use aminoacids and phyto's..... and of course the diets... also here I saw that often people aren't aware at all what they really do on such a pill ....


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Symbi, you sound so much like me but actually just a bit worse.  There were times in my 20's during my previous marriage to a rather verbally abusive man that I became that sick.  I tried antidepressants of all types many times during my life and none worked.  None.  They all had side effects that made me miserable and made me gain weight...messing with brain chemicals messes with metabolism.  I also always had issues with vision with them...light would hurt my eyes and I'm an artist and that just doesn't work.  I later learned you have Serotonin in your eyes so SSRI's and the like mess with your eyes too!  Dr. D has me taking Cortiguard at 11am (2 pills) and the same 2 pills at night along with Methyl B-12 (2 pills at night).  He also has me taking his licorice pill with potassium at 11am too.  All of this is for my stress and adrenals...just like you.  However, I'm not saying to do this per say as I'm not a doc...just sharing what he did for me.  He actually removed my magnesium go figure.  I am really focusing on yoga, breathing techniques and learning to set healthy boundaries.  It is really a learning curve but I come to find I'm really good at it!  

Case in point...I had a nutsy friend who is always full of drama call me yesterday during my dinner planning and I told her with love that I can happily speak with her Momday night when my family is out of the house and when I can relax and listen to her.  For the first time she told me "thank you for being honest and that she felt very loved by that".  I was in shock.  Usually she hounds me for "love" to the point of exhaustion.  I felt so empowered and full of love it was unreal.  I then locked myself in my bedroom for 5 minutes and just closed my eyes and breathed from my abdomen for a few minutes and cleared her from my head and felt great.  If treating her like this doesn't remove the drama from our relationship (I do care about her) I may have to chose to distance myself but I will try this first.  I'm sharing this as an example of something I could never do before but now that I can I am much less drained....learned that all from Dr. D saying to be authentic and have confidence.  I knew that but somehow the good energy at the clinic that day just drove it home.  Doing things with love means you can have boundaries and not be a slave.

Lighter dinners are key!  Hang in there Symbi...you are doing good things by being here.  You can do it.  No go breathe!  
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Hope you are resting well, Symbi!  

Having checked with DW first, the advice that she received was "Pre-eclampsia is very rare in second child."  So if you only have had advice to the contrary, you might want to seek second, third, fourth, or even fifth opinions from qualified and trusted sources.

I wanted to mention this earlier in the thread, but did not want to trust my memory.  This does sound like it is a parallel to an immune reaction that is eliminated at the end of the pregnancy.  The immune system then seems to adjust so that second child is less likely to trigger the same response.  I do not really known, just trying to sound out the generalities of how the response works.


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hey Madl Symbi, how can you support such medication as being an explorer No side effects in your case.... and how many time did it took for you to go off such a medication....

I do have a lot of clients coming to me for advices how to come off those meds; I only use aminoacids and phyto's..... and of course the diets... also here I saw that often people aren't aware at all what they really do on such a pill ....


Thanks for the message Amazone, you are so right!  I should never have tried it.   Only took it for five days at the lowest dose 25mg.  I got all the side effects and drug induced lupus!  Just like that.  

This experience has confirmed a few things for me!
1- now I've tried antidepressants I know they're not an option for me.  I was curious how it would help the IBS and ?fibromyalgia (it did but it wasn't worth it).  I hated that you don't have REM sleep which is my favourite time to dream .  Need to look at increasing seritonin naturally.

2- Confirmed my slow acetylatorhood.  I wasn't too sure of this because caffeine can take 5 hours to go through me (when I was younger) then I could sleep.  Sometimes if I'm really tired I can have a cuppa and still sleep too.  Well now I see info that DIL is common in slow acetylators.

3- My high ANA level must be mainly anti-histones, the Rhumatologist wasn't worried about them and tried to reassure me.  I found info that homogenous patterns are usually anti-histones, which means I'm very reactive to drugs now obviously.  I figure I got the antibodies from when I took Lysine as a supplement for four months late last year where I also came down with drug induced lupus.  So it all makes more sense to me now and has actually made me worry less about having an undiagnosed autoimmune disease.  Maybe I do, but with SWAMI and a good lifestyle I'm sure I can kick it's butt.  

4- the Kidneys burning, I really should get those checked out as that is not in DIL symptoms and I may have a problem.  Not sure whether it's the adrenals (since I have been feeling faint, seeing spots and everything too bright), or the kidneys reacting to the acidic tablets.  Two things to check out there.

Overall a silly thing to do but a learning experience.  Just doing what the Doctor tells you isn't a good idea - who knew  


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My Doctor yesterday noticed the lupus-like rash on my face.  Also i'd lost 3kg in 5 days!  My appetite has been zapped.  She didn't diagnose it all, since I didn't tell her everything (being half asleep from the 45 minute wait).  But I got home and realised what it all was. DIL  

Feeling better today after no tablet yesterday.  Will keep getting better.  

Thank Lori for your lovely messages.  I'm glad to hear your adrenals are getting fixed up, suprised you get potassium.  Oh maybe that's to reset the times when the adrenals work at their peak?  
We sound similar, though I'm not a confirmed nonnie yet  , an Explorer for sure though.  
Well done for standing up for yourself!  I think you've got to the heart of the matter again, thanks for your support.

I did that recently with a family member who is very needy and often rings at the wrong time (like when I'm on a creative bent writing a story or something) and wants to tell me her problems but doesn't listen to mine.  It's not equal in that way.  So I told her that I was busy and it felt scary as she could start crying or something (lucky she didn't) but so liberating!  You can give and give, but some people need to find it in themselves.

I read some info about SSRIs that confirms what you say, said it destroys the pineal gland which is to do with light in the eyes.  You need those eyes as an artist for sure!    Take care of those peepers!

Paul - thanks for checking with your DW about reinstances of preeclampsia.  My Doctor told me a similar thing.    However, I found information that having HELLP syndrome my chances are higher, 19 to 27% for HELLP happening again and 43% of preeclampsia, it says at http://www.aafp.org/afp/990901ap/829.html.  Though I know my chances would be lower now, thanks to Dr D, I'm so much healthier than I was.  
I think you're right about it being an immune response.
Didn't enjoy the hospital experience, it was pretty much a nightmare, but it was all worth it for my beautiful girl, so lucky to have her  


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Hey Symbi

Good on you for getting off the Zoloft!  I was on it for about a year when I was 16 (had a lot of problems at home) and ended up taking myself off it.  As Possum says, you really are much better off managing serotonin issues naturally if you can!

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Symbi, I know with Florinef it is given with Potassium because the drug leaches Potassium from your system.  Licorice works on the system just like Florinef so my guess is that you need Potassium for the Licorice as well.
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Sounds like you've been through the wringer Symbi, hope you're feeling much better soon.



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Having checked with DW first, the advice that she received was "Pre-eclampsia is very rare in second child."  


My OB also told me the risk was small. I was less worried then my husband, the whole experience really traumatized him. He is Blood type A+ BTW. So no A-O thing going on with us.

I have a cousin who had preeclaspsia in a third or fourth pregnancy, can't remember which.




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Hiya Symbi.. been thinking bout you.. Was reading some stuff on HELLP that I stumbled across the other day... I can't remember, but are you RH- or + ??
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Thanks for thinking of me Possum!   I'm RH+ so it couldn't have been rhesus incompatibility, if that's what you're thinking.

Remembering the fabulous doctor that took care of me and bub when we went through all this stuff, thank goodness for him, and he was quite a character.  Best thing about when he told me about the risks for further pregnancies was how he said it.  He said "When you have the next child, that is, if you ever have sex again.."  He knew what babies are like, natural prophylatics!  Or, did he mean after all this trouble you may be too scared, I'll never know  


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Dr. D has me taking Cortiguard at 11am (2 pills) and the same 2 pills at night along with Methyl B-12 (2 pills at night).  He also has me taking his licorice pill with potassium at 11am too.  All of this is for my stress and adrenals...just like you.  However, I'm not saying to do this per say as I'm not a doc...just sharing what he did for me.  He actually removed my magnesium go figure.  I am really focusing on yoga, breathing techniques and learning to set healthy boundaries.  It is really a learning curve but I come to find I'm really good at it!  


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Symbi, I know with Florinef it is given with Potassium because the drug leaches Potassium from your system.  Licorice works on the system just like Florinef so my guess is that you need Potassium for the Licorice as well.


Hi Lori, Thanks for sharing so much of your intuition, experience, insights and time.  Now I'm looking at getting some help for my adrenals too.  The cortigard it seems to cover alot alot of the nutrients to help them.  I couldn't find any licorice in the NAP products though, except for Sip Right 4 Your Type Teas.  So, I wonder which licorice tablet does he have you on?  Makes sense now why potassium is included.  

I like high potassium foods like chocolate, carob and dried fruit (every now and then)   Had yogurt and nectarines for morning tea though today and got the burning kidneys after that so I'm thinking it's potassium that is stressing the adrenals a bit.  Won't have any troubles finding potassium high foods  

I will get some licorice tea.  Was eating licorice but it mostly has wheat or soy in it and sugar and molasses.  I'm sure to avoid sugars for your adrenals will include molasses and fruit juices, unfortunately!  Will have to be careful not to overdo it and will have GP checkups for blood pressure etc.

Also found out about endocrinologists and will push my GP for a referral.  Some days when it's hot I get hot and dry and I just drink and drink and wee and wee and feel faint.  Also get hypoglycaemia.  When I was overweight thought it was diabetes coming.  Well I'm glad it's not that!  


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Hey Symbi

Good on you for getting off the Zoloft!  I was on it for about a year when I was 16 (had a lot of problems at home) and ended up taking myself off it.  As Possum says, you really are much better off managing serotonin issues naturally if you can!

Remember that you have love and support here with your virtual family  .

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(((Big hug))) and thanks   back to you Andy

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Making Millet this morning, as per Victoria's recipee http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1262475319/s-11/highlight-millet/#num11.  It smells delicious starchy and sweet.   (And it was delicious!  Another new healthy taste treat thanks to BTD/GTD.)

Yesterday went to Pharmacy (drug store) and got some help for my adrenals: Ethical Nutrients Extra C tablets (highly absorbable vitamin C) and some vitamin B complex (good ones with no herbs and nasties to react to).  I took some yesterday and felt like the vitamin C did alot of good and I was able to handle the stress of preparing dinner and all much easier than normal.  The pain in the kidneys went away!  

I was looking for licorice tea but there wasn't any there and I had to rush and pick up my DD from school.  Found some licorice sugar free lollies though.  It made me feel better quickly, but was pretty spicy tasting.  Unfortunately, it has given me a headache, dry mouth and a little asthma this morning.  Checking the ingredients, it has gum arabic:
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Derived from the sap of Acacia Sengal; consists of high molecular weight polysaccharides which can be used to produce arabinose, galactose, rhamnose and glucuronic acid. Gum arabic is used in food as a thickener, stabiliser, glazing agent and emulsifier, and is readily water-soluble. Easily broken down by the human digestive system; possible allergen, and may cause asthma and skin rash. Soothes irritations of mucous membranes. Typical products include chewing gum, sweets, jelly, fondants, beer, soft drinks, fruit squash, wine. See 410. May cause weak allergic reaction in some individuals. May act as an irritant. From the MBM food additives guide at http://mbm.net.au/health/guide.htm (http://mbm.net.au/health/400-495.htm)


..also contains maltitol syrup (can cause soft stools), glycerol (can cause high blood pressure and headaches thirst) and sweetener 950 (Acesuifame K, Ace K, 950 "Sunette" "Sweet One") - causes cancer in animals).  Oh lovely!  

Gee and it was packaged as a low GI sugar free, gluten free supposedly healthy product.    I'd rather have molasses that are good for me with licorice!  Will have to go to HFS for licorice tea now.

P.S. Gum Arabica is an avoid on my SWAMI, no wonder my reaction to the licorice containing it.  I wonder, after seeing the info above, if Gum Arabica is good for anyone on their SWAMI? (nice name, terrible stuff  )


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Symbi, I'll grab my bottle of the licorice stuff (starts with a g) and the potassium pills and see where they are from and post for you tomorrow.  Tea is too difficult to control the strength I think.  
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Symbi...it was Licorice Root Extract (Glycyrrhiza Glabra) 400mg with 16% Glycyrrhizin by Vital Nutrients and I take it with Potassim Citrate.  I don't think this should be done without a doc though due to possible blood pressure changes and such.
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Thanks heaps Lori!  

You are a sweety (and beautiful I see in the photo thread).  I hope your new regime is making you feel good?

I bought a blood pressure monitor and have been checking my BP at home.  The Doctor told me to do that as it's yo yo ish anyway.  It goes up during that time of the month and most of the rest of the time it's too low !  

So I made some licorice tea from the roots (just a teaspoon) and it's delicious.  Didn't even need sugar.  It feels good.  Only had it once a day so far when I felt I needed it (hot days).  I made sure I ate lots of potassium-rich foods around that time too, like carob or nectarines.  

It's helping, I'm not urinating as much or dry and drinking all the time or craving salt.  Feel less fatigued.  Though still having lupus-like symptoms.

Am going to see the rheumatologist on Thursday and the oral pathologist on Wednesday about my mouth problem.  Had it for 9 years, hey do you think I'll get a diagnosis now I'm seeing the right doctor?  (saw a dermatologist before and he didn't have a clue)

Actually I have to watch for my hopes being too high cos I may get disappointed.  "Prepare for disappointment".  Here's one I think I made up not sure, "The only certainty is uncertainty".     Must be time for a laugh.  Where's Possum?


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Love that photo of you and that hat!  OOOOOOH, I need a trip to Australia to get me one.  Sure, I probably could find it here but that would mean I don't get a trip!  

Sounds good to me Symbi and thank you.  I am now completely off my Florinef and depending on the Licorice.  So far I have gotten dizzy a few times but my salt craving is sooooo improved and I too don't rush to the bathroom all the time after a glass of water.  

Those Lupus symptoms...yeah, like I said, I was there.  Back then, tyrosine and red clover helped me but you need to look those up and see if that is ok if you want to try that.  I can tell you that I was on Plaquinel and it did very little for my symptoms.  I hope they improve, I do know this diet is your best answer in terms of long term treatment for whatever is the ailment.  

I hope a new doc figures out your mouth thingy!

Now where's Possum for a giggle???
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Possum here... reporting for duty Bit late, due to having just returned yesterday from being away on a short holiday
Might be all giggled out on account of being away with Mr P lol

Glad you are both getting relief from those dreadful Lupus symptoms...

Talking of gum...I had a "famous in NZ" chef in the store today trying to buy some zantham gum for his gluten free bread making...
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Hey Symbi

I love licorice root tea too!!  Hope it's helping!

I hope everything goes well with the Doc!  Keep on keeping on sweetie, you're getting there!!

Nice akubra hat btw .

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Possum and Andy - thanks for your posts!  

Have some news.  Even though I seemed to have drug induced lupus it has gone away now  .  I know now to avoid drugs in the future - well who needs em anyway with healthy food and exercise and Dr D's guidance on supplements.

The Rheumatologist has ordered a test for my adrenals - the ACTH test.  So I'm happy to get those tested.  She said pain in the kidneys is probably the adrenals so we'll get em tested.   Said even if I'm not Addison's if I have adrenal fatigue she will help me.  I like her  .  She was reassuring me that I don't have lupus.  

Started taking Milk Thistle with meals.  I feel some good feelings in the upper right quadrant of the chest, maybe knitting going on!  It's got to help.

Disappointed with the oral pathologist who said it's probably oral lichen planus but it's not so bad (though it's eroding in my mouth and very painful for me  ) so he won't bother doing a biopsy to confirm it.  He said that all they'd do is give me steroids by mouth anyway.  Well I think diagnosis would help!  Oh well, all the good things I've been doing diet and oral hygeine wise are helping it and it has gotten better particularly since the BTD/GTD.  It may totally heal if I keep this up.  

Licorice tea is wonderful and if I take it in the morning it saves me from kidney pains, dehydration and salt craving later in the day.  Didn't expect it to taste so hot too!  Yum!  Amazing how most things that are good for you also taste the best.

Got energy back now, car and oven here I come to wash you.  White tornado alert!



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Hi, to anyone it may interest, it's me again with some news I've been waiting for a long time!

I'm a Le(a+b-) (Non-secretor)
and MM type



Just rang up Pathlabs and they may be slow and inefficient causing butt-clenching moments, but they did come through eventually for me.  (It took 2 1/2 weeks after I sent the sample, but also 2 weeks to get the sample kits, because they didn't send the blood tube automatically.  It also cost over $70 - not so bad).  They still haven't finished the saliva test but it's not relevant (would only be if I was Le(a-b-)).

So excited!  I've suspected for a long time, well ever since I did my Genotyping in the book and saw how much Explorer suited me.  From then on I assumed I was a nonnie and also since I'd had acid reflux that year too and low IAP in blood tests.  Before then I'd read LR4YT and thought I must in the normal Secretor group and the chances weren't high that I would be special.  Now, I like being special!  
(It was also confirmed when I gave up wheat and saw how much it made me feel better!)

I am going to love the changes in SWAMI Xpress.  I love tomatoes!  Yipee super food now!  Off to finish cleaning the oven and cook and will do SWAMI properly later now I know for sure.  Was hoping I'd be a nonnie as I'd get more favourite foods.

MM though, isn't that the type that is more prone to cancer?  I need to get the LR4YT book again.  


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Hey Symbi

I'm really pleased you finally got your pathlab results!!

Welcome to the world of nonnie-hood, come and join us in the clubhouse .

I've got my Swami Xpress too now - have put another thread on here somewhere about it.  Got so many of my fave foods as diamonds or superfoods now - intuitively feels so right.  Can't wait to get into it all properly.

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Hey welcome to knowing for sure you are a nonnie!! Glad you are excited about reintroduced foods like tomatoes... Have fun on this new leg of the tour discovery
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This is all great news Symbi!  Oh this makes me smile my nonnie sis.
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Hi, to anyone it may interest, it's me again with some news I've been waiting for a long time!

I'm a Le(a+b-) (Non-secretor)
and MM type



  


Symbi, So glad you finally know   Welcome to the nonnie club!




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MM and other homozygous types
http://www.dadamo.com/forum/archivea/admin_config.pl?read=86625
http://www.dadamo.com/forum/archivea/config.pl?read=86070
people who have at least one M gene (blood types MM and MN) seem to be
better protected against rapid rises in their triglycerides and cholesterol
the homozygous MM and NN types apparently tend to have less hypertension (high blood pressure).


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Thanks Lola, you know me, I was looking around everywhere for more info.  You're amazing how you keep track of so much info!

Thanks my best Nonnie-mates (secretors are good people too though  ).

Andy - best of luck with SWAMI Xpress, please share how you go with it.  Hope you get your fave foods!

Being a nonnie and an MM I thank my lucky stars I found this diet and way of life to prevent bad health.  I'm one of the few lucky ones who know about this in the world.

Happy to have bananas back!  We live in the sunshine state here that grows heaps of them and I was sad not being able to eat them on the secretor diet.   Happy now.  

Bought a 5kg bulk bag of spelt flour a few days ago (lucky would have been bene if I was secretor or not  ).  So time to start messing up the clean oven with baking!  G has requested pancakes so I'll make some spelt ones tomorrow.  

Overdid it a bit yesterday so having adrenal fatigue issues today.  Totally detailed the car, cleaned the oven and finished off a big list of stuff.  Instead of 'making hay while the sun shines' have to learn to 'slow and steady wins the race'.  Soon there will be more days where I feel energetic so I won't have to cram so much in then.  

Amazingly my haemorroids would normally be sore after yesterdays difficult Beethoven 2nd (if you know what I mean) isn't sore.  The milk thistle is helping the haemorroids!  It helps with portal hypotension.  Wow    (back to more fibre in my diet to prevent this happening too).  It's giving me a little indigestion but it's worth it and I feel aware of my liver in a good way like it's fixing something there.     Hoping it will help with balancing my hormones (oestrogen dominant) too.  That's so much better than taking a SSRI to cut off feeling to that part of the body and muck up your metabolism (please Amazone forgive me  )


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These are the supps I'm currently taking to fight adrenal fatigue (?addisons maybe), inflammation and PMS / dry mouth, acidosis (with low calcium levels), oral lichen planus in my mouth (chronic autoimmune inflammation - a nonnie condition I see), sluggish liver:
  • Vitamin B,
  • Vitamin C (easy digestion ascorbate version),
  • Evening Primrose oil,
  • Fish Oil,
  • Zinc and Vitamin A,
  • Calcium with Magnesium, Vit K etc.
  • Milk Thistle.


Not taking full doses of these.  Starting to jiggle when I walk don't want to take so many supps forever!

Others:
[*]Licorice tea at least 1/day in am and some licorice (blood pressure has still been low 110/70)
[*]Green tea,
[*]Chamomile tea (first drink of the day - soothing)
[*]Must have regular Epsom salt baths and start liver detox protocol thanks for reminding me Lola  .

Todays' menu was:
homemade yogurt and lychees for breakfast,
leftover turkey sauce (celery, onion, garlic, pumpkin, carrot, peas, beans, broccoli, tamari (oh dear black dot) for early lunch/morning tea).  With a lentil and rice thing I made up that was slushy but nice.  Soaked lentils with basmati rice and then put them both in the rice cooker with extra water and some ginger, garlic and grated carrot.  It was good!

Kind of skipped lunch having morning and afternoon teas big, as I normally do.

Had some leftover steamed veggies with ghee for afternoon tea.  

Snack on raspberries.


Drinks include very watered down apple juice, grape juice and carob and rice milk drink.

For dinner I'm having Lamb steak (with cranberry sauce, garlic, salt) with rice and cooked veggies (was delicious!)   (Had salad instead!) Cooking beef steak for my hubby.  Happy day!


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MM, especially an A, there are important changes and considerations since the MM status makes you more prone to Cancer.
but you got that part covered in your swami, right?


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Thanks Lola and Possum, I put the MM status in SWAMI and will be following the diet closely.  
Really enjoying the antioxidant feeling of milk thistle!


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Yay, good on ya Symbi  


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The milk thistle will help get a lot of your problems sorted out.     I am missing mine.  


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Finally got the printed results from Pathlabs, and people not spelling out phonetics on the phone strikes again!  

I had thought I was MM but really I'm MN.  That's great, I'm not as susceptible to cancer.  Also have hibrid vigour.  I didn't really think I was that sick a person, certainly not lately.   Whenever I cheat though I get reminded why I'm doing this, though, snuck a hot cross bun over easter and got inflammation to the max instantly.  Wow!  I don't have to put up with that anymore.  Spelt flour tastes nice and is so much better anyway.

Feeling great, except having a bought of sinusitis.  Inhaling Tea Tree Oil in boiling water is helping as always (my Indian GP put me onto that and once told me I should see a naturopath  ).  Getting so much done, having more energy than usual.  That is priceless!  Thanks Dr D!


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Glad you have more energy Eww those hot cross buns eh??!! I still have bad memories of last Easter... Set up a massive carb craving that I could not satisfy...
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hi Symbi..meep..meep Amazone has forgiven btw..great that you are going off that medication; I often watched out that nonnies real suffer to tapper off SSRI's ...btw...would recommend you merely the intake of several aminoacids instead; btw...nonnies might have also an imbalance in HTA-axis.... so far I am sure that l'tyrosine is one of the options to go further   ....

the intake of all your supps sound fine... sauf the vit. K...this is a goody for O's but not that fine for A's nor AB's...(blood-clotting issues... )
oooh lamb steak..... you live in a great country for that.. oops ok in neighborhood with NZ...


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Thanks Isa and Possum!  

Oh yes a big cross on the top of the hot cross buns I should have realised it was trying to tell me something.  

I was only on those nasty tablets for a very short time and won't be doing that especially after I read they tax the adrenals, that may be how they make people feel better?  Seems like they don't know.  How can they give medicine that they don't know how it works?  With their scientific method and all.     Profit, that's how.

Just found out the results from my Colonoscopy and Endoscopy (4 months later!) that's the public system here so it didn't cost me anything and I'm very thankful for it.  I had mild antral gastritis (inflammmation in the bottom of the stomach).  Negative for H Pylori.  And my villi were normal so no Coeliac!

The haemorroids have come back to haunt me lately though since I stopped having oats and eating less grains.  Like they told me I must eat more grains and fruit and vegetables.  Well I need to follow the great plan that Dr D has laid out for me!

I told them about the mucus and dark faeces I get once a month and he said that's a sign of IBD but he thinks I just have IBS.  I'm not that sure about it, but I'm sure through diet whatever I've got will get better anyway.

Went and got some Custard Apple (Annonaceae family - related to PawPaw in SWAMI Diamond food) So that will be a new exciting taste sensation! Having lots of fruit and lots of gardening exercise yesterday the constipation has gone and had a great sleep last night.  Must keep that up!

Will check on the vitamin K issues and tyrosine if I get down again, thanks Isa!  


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What sinusitis?  What used to hang around for weeks like a barnacle has gone  
Is it legal to feel this good?  

Yesterday had a detox day where I ate a lot of fruit (currants, boysonberries, blueberries, raspberries, grapes, plums, mandarin (tangerine), banana, apple) and then had a vegetable soup for dinner with turnip, parsnip, carrot, pumpkin, celery, red lentils, sea salt, broccoli, green beans, little tamari, basil from the garden, mixed italian herbs (compliant) with some basmati rice.  It was delicious and today I feel fabulous.  So many diamond foods and superfoods, make you into a superwoman!  Well almost.

Also didn't take any supplements at all to give my liver a break.  Only mistake I made was to try some A2 milk which inflammed my stomach.  I thought it may be better than normal milk?  but not for me obviously.

Will get some cod liver oil and do the proper detox thing soon.  


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you mean caster oil for the pack, right?


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Symbi, I know with Florinef it is given with Potassium because the drug leaches Potassium from your system.  Licorice works on the system just like Florinef so my guess is that you need Potassium for the Licorice as well.


I find that licorice makes me need potassium in a big way. I think my adrenals just can't deal with licorice; I don't know if it's because of the medications I once had to take or if I've been that way all along. Going off gluten has definitely upped my energy.

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Symbi, it sounds like you are on the road to health with your Nonnie status and the right foods. I haven't done the castor oil detox, but I seem to periodically get some detoxification from the diet itself. I try to drink some juice most days. Maybe the Explorer catalyst and Redoxa help as well.

I like the pic! You and your daughter look so much alike.
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Thanks Chandon!  Was just thinking of you yesterday, glad to hear from you.  I love juices too.  At the moment I have 1/5 watered down store bought no preservative juices but want to get a juicer.  Also want to get into sprouting!  Will check out those supps you mention.

Thanks, the more I follow the diet the more similar my daughter and I look (I look healthier and younger and she is growing up !). Was told today that I am glowing.  That's nice!

Loving knowing I'm a nonnie and eating the right foods.  Spelt is beautiful and goes down well, I have esckewed all other kinds of wheat (and oats for now) and feel amazing.  Made pumpkin scones with spelt yesterday and they powered a fun and harmonious family get together.  Others had whipped cream on theres, I had ricotta along with blueberry and MIL's homemade Rosella jam (has some cream in it and it's good!).  Okay there was some sugar in the jam I guess!

About licorice tea, I only have it when I need it and not more than once a day.  Now the heat has gone I'm not needing it every day anymore.   Carob, chocolate, yogurt and many other yummy things are good sources of potassium I make sure I have some of those too.  Thanks for caring and sharing!


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....and MIL's homemade Rosella jam (has some cream in it and it's good!).  Okay there was some sugar in the jam I guess!
*gulp*   She makes jam outa rosellas

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Thanks for reminding me Possum, was going to look it up cos I don't know what it is either!  

We were joking that we'd find beaks and bones in the jam (rosellas are also a colourful of parrot here in Australia).     Nah it was delicious.  

It's a subtropical plant a type of hibiscus: http://www.annettemcfarlane.com/Stories/rosella.pdf

It must be neutral I guess and fair game


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great diuretic!


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Symbi, finally got a few minutes to catch up with your thread!!  Fantastic progress!! Keep us posted!! You packed lots of info here!  very useful, need to go back and re-read to assimilate it better.  Admire your positivism and good energy through it all!  to optimum health mate!!!  




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Thanks Cristina!  I say that alot don't I    You are sweet.

Cheers to being healthy !     Bottoms up on a green tea for me and coffee for you.

Made a mistake to try and save money bought some soy sauce instead of tamari and got inflammation next day straight away.   Wow wheat really does it to me!  
So I'll have to get Tamari again and I shouldn't use much as it is a black dot (oops).  It's hard to totally avoid since I make stir fries and love it on rice.  Once I tried a stir fry without soy sauce (added white wine for a fermented flavour) but it was too rich for our little one.    Maybe sherry would be ok?  Will have to look for some tips.

Was looking at fingerprints and I think the ridges are higher than they ever where before even after no wheat for only a few months !  They were very worn before.  Going to do the proper fingerprinting from the kit soon when hands aren't busy cooking, typing, washing up or cleaning and when DH is home !


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