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VictoriousLiving
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I have read articles by naturopaths labeling people either sympathetic or parasympathetic dominant and then using that classification to tell them whether or not they need more protein or carbs. I can't find anything on in the BTD archives addessing this subject, but wonder how it relates to blood types and worldviews.


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it s like the body typing systems and other forms of classification.....

adapt the ones you are interested in, to your BT/GT guidelines

take what works for you, leave out what you don t consider necessary.


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All I know is that you need a balance of both.  If one system is not working properly, it is an indicator of problems.  When I started having all my problems, I was under a lot of stress and the nutritional counselor and the machine she had kept telling me my parasympathetic system was in the tanker.  And I needed to CALM DOWN DUDE!!!

But that probably doesn't help you.  


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http://itc.gsw.edu/faculty/gfisk/anim/autonomicns.swf

hahah!

I would think the O/Hunter type would be more sympathetic and the A/Teacher would be more parasympathetic.  Thus sympathetic does better on protein, going with that theory?


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no - the sympathetic dominent people do better on carbs and the parasympathetic people are 'meat types'. It does not seem to directly correlate with the bTD theories and I am curious because it seems to be an additonal part of the puzzle regarding individualized medicine.

I think of a highly wired teacher when I think of a sympathetic dominent person.


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nice one Eric! thanks!


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take care in not erroning here, you body might swift....over to....
but normally those who are the hunter/explorer ones won't need that much of stimmulie...
and vagotonics need more stimmulie....

we can't compare this very issue with BTD nor the science of GTD.....


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In the O section of the Live Right book there's a section on avoiding stimulants.  It talks about how even modest amounts of caffeine can stimulate the O's sympathetic nervous system, causing an even higher adreneline release.  Sounds like us O's are already on the sympathetic side.  




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I got my information from Knockout- Interviews with Doctors who are Curing Cancer - ch.8 Dr. Nicolas Gonzalez. Is a new release by Suzanne Somers that relays info about preventative measures and alternative treatments.  
http://www.dr-gonzalez.com/crayhon.htm

Also, Dr. Mercola addresses the issue as well.


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Just wondering what to do with the info and how it all fits together?


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The first time that I heard about these dietary ideas, thanks for the info! Reading the link I was wondering why sympathetic dominant people need more carbohydrate in their diet than parasympathetic. I couldn't find the explanation. The BTD and GTD explain in detail the rational behind the idea. They also provide research and testimonials. On the surface it does seem oppose BTD notions, but mabey there is more to it than that. Maybe not.

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I think the B's would tend to be parasympathetic.  


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Proper relaxation for Hunters and Explorers require exercising until they get their buzz - jigging the sympathetic (flight of fight response) until the parasympathetic kicks in to restore balance.  That would suggest that H/E are in fact sympathetic-deprived or tend to get stuck in an overly parasympathetic mode.  They are pushing the sympathetic to start a revolution of the sympathetic/parasympathetic balance.  I am thinking of something that looks like a yin/yang symbol that spins a revolution.

How this would work for Teacher/Warrior in the reverse is something that I just can't wrap my mind around.  In the end the dual sympathetic/parasympathetic cannot be reconciled to the responder/tolerant/thrifty triad.

I wouldn't worry too much about it.  Sometimes simpler dietary systems (i.e. all other dietary sys.) reflect a part of the truth to be found in the BTD/GTD/Swami system.

Vegetarians are right about Warriors and mainly about Teachers, but that doesn't mean I am about to give up my beef, lamb, etc.  

  


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Yeah well, I'm not giving up my Eggs, turkey and fish. This teacher still needs animal protein.  Practically every meal.  If I eat beans I usually add cheese. Or I can tell my blood sugar gets messed up later on if I just eat the beans and no other protein with it.  I haven't tried brown rice and beans yet though.  That might be a winner combo.


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Yeah well, I'm not giving up my Eggs, turkey and fish. This teacher still needs animal protein.  Practically every meal.  If I eat beans I usually add cheese. Or I can tell my blood sugar gets messed up later on if I just eat the beans and no other protein with it.  I haven't tried brown rice and beans yet though.  That might be a winner combo.


Ab, beans & rice are a great protein combo if I remember corectly...




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Proper relaxation for Hunters and Explorers require exercising until they get their buzz - jigging the sympathetic (flight of fight response) until the parasympathetic kicks in to restore balance.  That would suggest that H/E are in fact sympathetic-deprived or tend to get stuck in an overly parasympathetic mode.  They are pushing the sympathetic to start a revolution of the sympathetic/parasympathetic balance.  I am thinking of something that looks like a yin/yang symbol that spins a revolution.

How this would work for Teacher/Warrior in the reverse is something that I just can't wrap my mind around.  In the end the dual sympathetic/parasympathetic cannot be reconciled to the responder/tolerant/thrifty triad.

I wouldn't worry too much about it.  Sometimes simpler dietary systems (i.e. all other dietary sys.) reflect a part of the truth to be found in the BTD/GTD/Swami system.

Vegetarians are right about Warriors and mainly about Teachers, but that doesn't mean I am about to give up my beef, lamb, etc.  

  



Thank you for the info, Paul. There are so many 'systems' out there. Dr. D made a comment about that on facebook earlier in the week. Pretty interesting stuff...


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