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I don't understand why.  I am having thyroid problems, low temp, etc etc, waiting on the armor.  I still have to get the blood test done, but I know it's an issue.  

So I changed my swami and it showed no sea veggies and I'm not sure why.  Don't they have iodine in them?  I am balancing out for iodine and I know it helps me.  I know when I take it, I'm less fatigued and it has a tenancy to keep my temperature up.  When I don't take it, I'm colder yet.  Overall.  

Is it because the program doesn't know if you're hyper or hypo?


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you are in fact also following your Dr s advice, right?

I d make sure he gives his educated opinion, in your case.


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Roger that, that's exactly what I'm doing.  I don't think he'd agree with swami, in this case.  But I will double check.


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No sea vegetables?  Id be lost without my Lavor Nori Seaweed.  Whenever my energy level drops I munch on some.  I also sprinkle Dulse flakes on my salad.  What else can you eat to up your iodine levels?

I have Sea vegetables, wakame diamond;, Sea vegetables, kelp & spirulina as emphasize.  Sea Vegetables, Agar as avoid.  All the rest are neutral.  I wonder what is wrong with Agar.


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Well, there was another thread going around but I don't think it was ever said as to why it would be an avoid if you mark "yes" to thyroid problems.  The only thing I can think of is they don't ask if it's hypo or hyper.  But I seem to need iodine.  Because the same as you, I find it helps me with my temp and energy.  

Although this winter I am freezing.  But I remember a couple of summers ago I was always freezing too.  That has gotten better.


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An iridologist told me this week that black walnut hulls have a lot of iodine.  There are a few references to this also, but I can't say it's 100% true.  Definitely worth investigating!

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1235396


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Interesting.  I just had walnuts last night.  But I didn't eat the hulls.  EHEHheEHEhehehehee.  Do you?  


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So many women become hypo thyroid as they age......(me, for sure!) what to do? we need sea veggies!
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Hi ABNoWay, Research I did last spring when I had another bleeding mole (undiagnosed melanoma) pointed me toward needing iodine but not from bladderwrack.  First I learned that melanoma can be fueled by tyrosine.  The list that came up when I searched for high tyrosine foods were foods that finally matched my food sensitivities.  Especially problematic for me were nuts and seeds, beans, eggs, BTD/GTD allowable dairy and bananas (that banana headache).  Seaweeds were at the top of that search food list so that explained why I didn't feel right on bladderwrack for quite a while and had stopped taking it.

Later I came across the article "The End of Antibiotics and the Rise of Iodine as an Effective Alternative." by Mark Sircus Ac. OMD  This paragraph from the article states:  "Iodine kills single celled organisms by combining with the amino acids tyrosine or histidine  when they are exposed to the extra-cellular environment. All single cells showing tyrosine on their outer cell membranes are killed instantly by a simple chemical reaction with iodine that denatures proteins.  Nature and evolution have given us an important mechanism to control pathogenic life forms and we should use it and trust it to protect us in ways that antibiotics can't."

After reading that article, I felt that somehow my iodine and tyrosine levels had become unbalanced - with iodine being too low. I needed more iodine to combine with tyrosine.  (No medical test confirmed this, I was making decisions on how I felt and the information I had read.)  I began searching for a source of iodine without tyrosine which led me to liquid iodine.  I first used Lugel's but then switched to Nascent iodine. I started taking it in July and have been steadily getting better and better. Many of my food sensitivities are gone now.  I can eat bananas without getting that banana headache and I'm tolerating more nuts and seeds. Probably the greatest feeling of all though is no longer feeling like I'm starving to death.  No matter how much I ate, I was always hungry, really really hungry.  I've been underweight for a long time and finally I'm beginning to gain a few pounds. I think now I can dig into a full-fledged hunter diet (but still minus the dairy, I'm not ready to try that yet).  Another improvement is not feeling so cold all the time.  My whole life has been one big shiver. But now my hands are actually warm at times!

I took a thyroid glandular along with the iodine but I haven't taken that for about a week now.  I remember reading on some of your other posts that you muscle test your supplements so I would recommend that you test the iodine and thyroid glandular and use them as needed.  Also, I understand that iodine can kill good bacteria when taken orally, so you need to take probiotics between iodine doses.

Not sure if the tyrosine and iodine connection is what you need to focus on but I thought I would share the information and you can use it according to your needs.

Wishing you new discoveries toward better health.
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It depends on the kind of thyroid problem you have.  I think (and I'm not sure) that it is with Hashimoto's thyroiditis, which is an autoimmune thyroid issue, that iodine is a problem.  I've wondered about it myself because I take Deflect everyday.  I don't have a thyroid anymore so I'm on thyroid meds.
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Well, there was another thread going around but I don't think it was ever said as to why it would be an avoid if you mark "yes" to thyroid problems.  The only thing I can think of is they don't ask if it's hypo or hyper.  But I seem to need iodine.  Because the same as you, I find it helps me with my temp and energy.  

Although this winter I am freezing.  But I remember a couple of summers ago I was always freezing too.  That has gotten better.

Maybe the question needs to be clarified in the Swami Express.  I had my Swami done at the TN mini conference.  Dr. C analyzed my results with a final review by Dr. D.  So it was very personalized.

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An iridologist told me this week that black walnut hulls have a lot of iodine.  There are a few references to this also, but I can't say it's 100% true.  Definitely worth investigating!

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1235396

I need a sledge hammer to just crack a black walnut.


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I am type A, maybe hypothyroid ( along with a strong family history), and sea veggies are outlawed for me, as well.


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Interesting.  I just had walnuts last night.  But I didn't eat the hulls.  EHEHheEHEhehehehee.  Do you?


You will stain less things if you buy black walnut hull tablets rather than trying to process the hulls yourself.



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I am having trouble as well... I am cold and stuff... I know sprouted wheat and any cheese hurts me on this even though checking the swami box recommended them. Right now I can not eat nuts and beans without my right kidney bothering me. Hell it bugs me anyways half the time. I am trying to get more lamb and iodine... I mean I need lamb in order to eat anything other than animal protein. I almost have reactions to pumpkin seeds  and get the lower right back problem if I eat them...

I am a non-taster too. If I could afford a lot more lamb I would go for it. I need more exercise though because my heavy fat diet is hard on my chest, I can feel it. Well maybe that will start to pass with correcting the other stuff I dunno.
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I am type A, maybe hypothyroid ( along with a strong family history), and sea veggies are outlawed for me, as well.


All of them.  Mine just took away some.  You would think you'd need them though.  I don't really understand it.  It doesn't make all that big a difference, as I've yet to try any of them.  Except I do have a bottle of fucus that seemed like when I took one, it didn't sit right. So......  there may be something to it, I just don't understand it.


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I am having trouble as well... I am cold and stuff... I know sprouted wheat and any cheese hurts me on this even though checking the swami box recommended them. Right now I can not eat nuts and beans without my right kidney bothering me. Hell it bugs me anyways half the time. I am trying to get more lamb and iodine... I mean I need lamb in order to eat anything other than animal protein. I almost have reactions to pumpkin seeds  and get the lower right back problem if I eat them...

I am a non-taster too. If I could afford a lot more lamb I would go for it. I need more exercise though because my heavy fat diet is hard on my chest, I can feel it. Well maybe that will start to pass with correcting the other stuff I dunno.



I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but you worry me.  I don't like how your kidneys are always hurting you.  You may want to see a urologist.  You could have stones that aren't moving.


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When I had my TSH test taken on kelp, it was lower than when I was off kelp. I think it has been helping me to add the kelp back in (2 tabs/day). I have been taking a multi with some kelp the whole time, but just 1/2 the full amount. My thyroid seems to have a weird pain on the right side quite a bit. I don't know if that is a sign I have hashimoto's or that I have a nodule, or what. Anyway, I seem warmer with the kelp.
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I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but you worry me.  I don't like how your kidneys are always hurting you.  You may want to see a urologist.  You could have stones that aren't moving.


It is more a dull annoying feeling that I mostly feel when I lean back.
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One time in the hospital when I was having some major pain, my kidney was so inflamed that the spot on my skin was darker and warmer than anywhere else.  But the ER doctor didn't care about that.  "Yeah, you have a trace amount of blood in your urine, but no big deal."  Whatever dude.

Dull pain can mean stones too.  I never get bad pain until something moves.  But who knows what's going on in there with yours.  Have you ever been to a urologist.  I know they check your urine for different things like blood and bacteria.  You could go see one and just tell them your kidney hurts.  I'm sure they'd at least run a test on your urine.  That's what they do first.


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Yeah well I doubt that is going to happen. I would be real happy if I did not have to pee as often because of my thyroid I am starting to suspect... that and any left over wheat/caesin. I drink tons of cranberry juice and do not suspect an infection. Well last time I ate rice I and ghee I had the urge to go but no real reason. It is crazy sometimes I am totally in balance and nothing and when I go all is well, other times I am afraid to drink fluids if I am going anywhere.
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it's amazing; I tried both but the only thing they did was augmenting my hot flashes sensation ... ...so far for me better to go for l'tyrosine.....


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All of them.  Mine just took away some.  You would think you'd need them though.  I don't really understand it.  It doesn't make all that big a difference, as I've yet to try any of them.  Except I do have a bottle of fucus that seemed like when I took one, it didn't sit right. So......  there may be something to it, I just don't understand it.


I noticed that O Polyvite, Phytocal & Deflect give me upset stomach @ 4am probably because that is when I have an empty stomach.  The thing that all 3 have is seaweed, bladderwrack & mearl.  I'm wondering if that is a problem for me, I eat dulse w/ no problem.  

I know there's another O w/ funny reactions to on of the above.  Can't remember who, but my question is what do you take for calcium then?
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Oh yeah this will help you ABNoway, http://holisticonline.com/Yoga/hol_yoga_pos_shoulst.htm

Also maybe you should try 100% no dairy products or wheat, like how I posted about Ghee. Let me tell you they all seem to make me feel cold. When I stay away from them I can sweat easy... That and I am going to go with apricots instead of lamb I guess!
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Thank you for that!  I'll have to try that!  I'm still not sure about the cutting out ghee.  I don't eat a whole lot though.  I may take you up on that sometime.  I pretty much don't eat wheat at all.  Every once in a while I'll eat a crouton or two when I go to Panera and have a salad.  I've been giving them to my kids though lately.  Besides that, no wheat/yeast in this boy.


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