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I have decided to go get measured by a local ND this coming week to be sure there is no question as to my GT. Please weigh in with your opinions on why I should consider the Swami Professional (through the ND) or buy the Swami Express  Thanks in advance for your input! GZ |
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Saturday, January 9, 2010, 3:57pm |
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You get to rest assured, that everything was done right and there are no mistakes to what you are and what you need to eat or not eat! |
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Lloyd |
Saturday, January 9, 2010, 4:13pm |
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The advantage of the Xpress is that you can rerun it with modified input (as you have new information or if you want to play around) as often as you like.
The ND would likely better personalize it for you and could also rerun it if warranted.
You might want to consider if you intend to have an ongoing relationship with this ND. That may be the ultimate answer. |
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Golfzilla |
Saturday, January 9, 2010, 10:52pm |
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You get to rest assured, that everything was done right and there are no mistakes to what you are and what you need to eat or not eat!
Geminisue, hope you have been well! Are you referring to the measurements..? |
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Golfzilla |
Saturday, January 9, 2010, 10:56pm |
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The advantage of the Xpress is that you can rerun it with modified input (as you have new information or if you want to play around) as often as you like.
The ND would likely better personalize it for you and could also rerun it if warranted.
You might want to consider if you intend to have an ongoing relationship with this ND. That may be the ultimate answer.
Lloyd, great point. I'll wait until I meet her and see how it all feels. Good advice, thanks again  |
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Sunday, January 10, 2010, 1:52am |
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Breathe hydrogen should be part of the SWAMI pro. find out if she does this test. Dr. D has a place to input the numbers that this test generates. As well as bio impedance monitor testing. |
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Golfzilla |
Sunday, January 10, 2010, 2:46pm |
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Breathe hydrogen should be part of the SWAMI pro. find out if she does this test. Dr. D has a place to input the numbers that this test generates. As well as bio impedance monitor testing.
I will check for sure but will that make me a hybrid  |
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Lloyd |
Sunday, January 10, 2010, 3:17pm |
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I will check for sure but will that make me a hybrid 
I don't think the hydrogen car is available yet.  |
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Rerunning Swami Express with a modified input several times might become a disadvantage if it results in(consciously or unconsciously) choosing a favoured diet report from the various outputs.  This would mean more subjectivity and less scientific objectivity in the nutritional therapy. This is less possible if a practitioner has control over the manipulation of the input data and of the output. |
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Golfzilla |
Monday, January 11, 2010, 1:24am |
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I don't think the hydrogen car is available yet. 
Finally I'm a first!!!  |
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Golfzilla |
Monday, January 11, 2010, 2:33pm |
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Rerunning Swami Express with a modified input several times might become a disadvantage if it results in(consciously or unconsciously) choosing a favoured diet report from the various outputs.  This would mean more subjectivity and less scientific objectivity in the nutritional therapy. This is less possible if a practitioner has control over the manipulation of the input data and of the output.
This is too a good point as I have "seen" this happening in other strings... I believe one needs to decide how serious one is and be diciplined enough to do what is best even if not liked most...  |
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SoulfulLori |
Monday, January 11, 2010, 2:39pm |
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I agree with you G! Myself...I do best if I totally believe the information is accurate and non-negotiable. I would go with having a pro do it. That's what I plan to do in a couple of months after following LRFYT. |
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Golfzilla |
Monday, January 11, 2010, 2:46pm |
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I agree with you G! Myself...I do best if I totally believe the information is accurate and non-negotiable. I would go with having a pro do it. That's what I plan to do in a couple of months after following LRFYT.
Indeed, at least the measurements. I have read many posts about others changing their "thinking" they are another genotype. If geno type can be confused due to measuring wrong then the cost of the wrong foods, supplements, time & getting healed could be more than the cost of getting it correct to begin with... Then one needs to decide which way they choose to go with the Swami...  |
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Mayflowers |
Monday, January 11, 2010, 3:03pm |
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I have decided to go get measured by a local ND this coming week to be sure there is no question as to my GT. Please weigh in with your opinions on why I should consider the Swami Professional (through the ND) or buy the Swami Express  Thanks in advance for your input!
I'd say the ND. You'll have better results. Two head are better than one...I always say..  |
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Golfzilla |
Monday, January 11, 2010, 3:23pm |
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Quoted from 815
I'd say the ND. You'll have better results. Two head are better than one...I always say.. 
Indeed, there would be no doubt as to my genotype!  |
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ruthiegirl |
Thursday, January 14, 2010, 2:18pm |
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I'd suggest getting the ND to measure you, regardless of which version you decide to use. Getting the measurements can be very tricky, and IMO the descriptions in the book are really hard to follow (just like descriptions of how to crochet or how to draft your own patterns- some things are just better SHOWN than described.) I couldn't make heads or tails of the tooth shape descriptions, and I probably would have gotten the fingerprinting wrong if I'd tried it by myself. And I'm just talking about taking the fingerprints- even Andrea couldn't decipher mine (good thing the resident 17yo fingerprint reading expert was available!)
I don't really know enough about the SWAMI Xpress to compare the two types of software. |
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Golfzilla |
Thursday, January 14, 2010, 2:42pm |
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ruthiegirl, my appointment with the ND is this morning! I have decided to have her measure me, that never was a question. I want to be absolutely sure they are correct. I don't want to "think" I am this or that only to find out months from now I'm something different...
My original question was considering if I should go with the Professional version and have the ND run it or go with the Xpress which allows me to enter varibles as time goes on. I am now leaning towards the Xpress but will decide as a result of my appointment.
Cheers! |
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Friday, January 15, 2010, 5:39pm |
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How did your appointment go? |
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Friday, January 15, 2010, 6:08pm |
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I know! I'm with Ruthiegirl waiting over here in cyberland DYING to know how it went. Oh the agony!  C'mon Golfzilla, you always have such great little posts...fill us in! |
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Friday, January 15, 2010, 6:27pm |
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Hello, hello...me too, Golfzilla.  Debra  |
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Friday, January 15, 2010, 6:49pm |
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Friday, January 15, 2010, 7:01pm |
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I have a ?, would the ND have to be experienced w/ the BTD to do the measurements? I would like to have mine do the measuring. I don't think there are any ND's around here that use this diet. |
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Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 5:01am |
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my question is...are there any trained professionals...outside of Dr. D's clinic...to measure and calculate...for the professional SWAMI? I am certified IFHI...a professional...who can run the Professional SWAMI...but there has been no certification...that I know of...that walks us through...step by step...how to measure and figure the SWAMI. I'm first in line if such a training is offered! |
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Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 6:00am |
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in every certification so far, there has been a walk through, yes. you I have only met at the TN mini one! that s where you got measured, remember? come to the next CT seminar and get your masters!  |
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Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 6:17pm |
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At the mini conference in TN it was a madhouse in the room where Natalie was trying to help all of us (10-20 people) figure out the measurements. Everyone had specific questions and we were all in different phases of our own understanding of how to do the measurements as well as in different levels of completion of the actual measurements AND everyone was rushing through it to get back in to hear Dr. D's Q & A. There was no systematic walk thru of anything! I'd like to see the measurements be an actual session w/o conflicting with other sessions and that the groups be small-No more than 10 people, 5 would be better, for each Teacher going thru the measurements. Watching or hearing Natalie talk to others about where the specific locations on the body are for the measurements wasn't helpful. I needed to FEEL where they were on my own body and that takes time. Hope that helps for planning future conferences. Cheers, Chelsie  |
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