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Jumari
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A couple of days ago there was an article on the paper about recalling a batch of "Bonsoi", the soy milk brand because it had too much Iodine which had a negative effect on the thyroids.

A couple of months ago there was an article about how Sea Salt didn't have as much iodine as conventional salt which was necessary for the brain to function properly.

I'm confused...Should we occassionaly have convetional salt or do we really nead to take iodine supplements. Any advise on this would be appreciated.
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I'm curious about this topic as well.  I've been using Real Salt
(http://www.realsalt.com/) because it is mined in Utah and it has "natural" iodine but I'm open and willing to try anything else people may suggest. I think other sources of iodine include fish and seaweed but I've always wondered about iodine in Morton's Salt.  Where do the food companies get iodine from?    

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A couple of days ago there was an article on the paper about recalling a batch of "Bonsoi", the soy milk brand because it had too much Iodine which had a negative effect on the thyroids.

A couple of months ago there was an article about how Sea Salt didn't have as much iodine as conventional salt which was necessary for the brain to function properly.

I'm confused...Should we occassionaly have convetional salt or do we really nead to take iodine supplements. Any advise on this would be appreciated.


It's true , sea salt contains very low levels of minerals and I for one would not depend on it for mineral supplementation. According to one of the world's leading Professors on research into iodine supplementation (an Australian Professor btw) Australians are not consuming enough iodine, Jumari. Eat your seaweeds, take the appropriate fucus pills etc. Don't worry about overdosing (according to the Prof.)because that is a difficult thing to accomplish on an Australian diet. However, do not supplement if you have a thyroid disease - except in the case of goitres caused by iodine deficiencies in which case one should see an MD to rule out other problems. If you have no thyroid problems, by all means consume your iodine rich foods/natural supplements.  


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Hi eh,

Thanks so much. I actually do tend to have sea weed with my sushi and sashimi lunches. I also have spirulina in the mornings as a supplement.

But the thing on the Bonsoi milk really confused me as I also have Bonsoi with my coffee maybe twice a day.

There is nothing worse than trying to be good and healthy and ending up doing damage instead.

Sorry, can't help you with your situation Sharon...
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Growing up in Tassie, I remember each Friday at school, being supplemented with goiter tablets, 'cos the soil was low in iodine... Not sure if it was just needed in a particular area, or only while at very young primary school age, but we didn't get them once I turned 8 (we moved the year I started grade 3)
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No worries, Jumari. I honestly don't think you'll do any damage. If you have no thyroid issues/diseases etc. even the recalled Bonsoy would be OK, I reckon. The company is playing it safe which is admirable of it but I am not returning mine as I'm happy to receive the extra iodine. Seriously . But if you are at all concerned you should return it. I probably consume more iodine than you, all up. And I must admit I was both pleased and surprised on hearing the Prof. say that it was perfectly OK for me to consume quite a lot of the naturally occuring iodine.

Possum, my Tasmanian friend (she grew up in Hobart/the same generation) was also given iodine supplements at school. As far as I know it was only a Tasmanian thing. I don't know whether it was only a problem with the soil, however. I'm not absolutely sure about this, but I think the iodine may have been used to counteract the goitregenic effects of the Tasmanian milk at the time. Tassie dairy cows were also fed broccoli at one time and that may have been part of the problem for you Tassie kids (broccoli contains a goitregen).  My friend has continued to supplement her diet and also her daughter's diet with iodine. Fortunately, she grew up to be a genius so it's a relief to know that the lack of iodine in the soil never had the opportunity to diminish her or her kids intellectually.


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Regular Salt has preservatives in it I don't want.  And yeah, where do they get it from?  

I take an iodine supplement on a regular basis.  It seems to help my temperature, and fatigue.


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Possum, my Tasmanian friend (she grew up in Hobart/the same generation) was also given iodine supplements at school. As far as I know it was only a Tasmanian thing. I don't know whether it was only a problem with the soil, however. I'm not absolutely sure about this, but I think the iodine may have been used to counteract the goitregenic effects of the Tasmanian milk at the time. Tassie dairy cows were also fed broccoli at one time and that may have been part of the problem for you Tassie kids (broccoli contains a goitregen).
Well I didn't know half of this Very interesting...
Here in NZ they tried to pass a "fart" tax for green house emissions...Wonder if they've been feeding their cows broccoli??!!
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I take an iodine supplement on a regular basis.  It seems to help my temperature, and fatigue.


what iodine supp do you take? do you take any thyroid medicine? :-0



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I balance out for taking Armour, but it's backordered.  I've been taking a 6.25 mg or iodine.  It's a brand my doctor has made for him.  http://www.pathwaysmed.com.  Sometimes I need it twice a day, like lately.  Usually after I take it a while I don't need as much.  But these last two months I've really been needing a lot of everything.  I think the cold weather and all that comes with it is hard on my body.  The only upside is less inflammation than in the hot weather.  


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Regular Salt has preservatives in it I don't want.  And yeah, where do they get it from? ...


Unreal.  Salt with preservatives??

Which ones?  Which preservatives, I mean?



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Well, when my in laws were in town last, they went to I think walmart and got some "america's choice" salt.  For ingredients it says: salt, sodium, silicoaluminate (?????????, Dextrose (who knows what kind, corn maybe?? and potassium iodide.  

I'm not really sure if that last thing is good or bad, but I'm pretty sure I don't want silicoaluminate.  Sounds suspicially like Aluminum.  The dextrose may not be the worst thing, but I'd rather just buy sea salt that doesn't have this extra junk in it.  I've also seen "tricalcium phospahte" in other spices and brands and I don't really want that either I don't think.


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My word.  I had no idea.  I wouldn't eat it either.  

I eat Baleine iodized gros sal.  It has--sea salt and sodium iodide.  Oh, and occasionally I cook with gray Celtic sea salt but it isn't iodized.


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Well, when my in laws were in town last, they went to I think walmart and got some "america's choice" salt.  For ingredients it says: salt, sodium, silicoaluminate, Dextrose (who knows what kind, corn maybe?? and potassium iodide.  

I'm not really sure if that last thing is good or bad, but I'm pretty sure I don't want silicoaluminate.  Sounds suspicially like Aluminum.  The dextrose may not be the worst thing, but I'd rather just buy sea salt that doesn't have this extra junk in it.  I've also seen "tricalcium phospahte" in other spices and brands and I don't really want that either I don't think.

Would be to keep it dry...I think??!! Re the dextrose/corn - yet another attack of the cornspiracy....
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My sea salt stays dry just fine without any garbage in it.  I think it's a CYA ingredient so they don't lose any product then.  Or they don't get any calls that say my salt is a brick, give me another.


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For salt, I use Celtic grey sea salt and for iodine I sprinkle flaked dulse on my foods daily.  Also, use dried seaweed sheets (sushi) to make all kinds of wrap concoctions.   When I am low on this my body tends to go into symptoms of menopause...red ears and body heat flushings (hot flashes) and my metabolism tends to slow down.  Some people I have mentioned eating this to don't like the fishy taste.  I don't even notice it anymore.  

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I love sushi and every ingredient about it.    


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When I need additional iodine, I put an iodine spot on the skin.  Just use 2% tincture of iodine and put a 2 inch diameter spot on the abdomen or thigh...  If it disappears in 2-4 hours, you need more immediately.  If the spot is still visible in 24 hours, you have plenty.  If it disappears sometime in the middle, I usually wait several days and retest...

Excess Chloride, Flouride, and Bromide in the body all flush iodine out of the body.  


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It seems as though, what happened in Australia is now happening in Ireland.

http://www.foodqualitynews.com/Food-Alerts/Alert-widens-over-iodine-tainted-soya-milk

I no longer have Bonsoi but now I am concerned about excess iodine. I have been using Iodised Sea salt and I do eat a fair amount of Wakame or Seaweed salad which has and extremely high level of it. I seem to be OK but I am concerned about the long term effects.

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Definition of Iodine excess
Iodine excess: Just as too little iodine can cause thyroid disease, so may prolonged intake of too much iodine also lead to the development of goiter (swelling of the thyroid gland) and hypothyroidism (abnormally low thyroid activity). Certain foods and medications contain large amounts of iodine. Examples include seaweed; iodine-rich expectorants (such as SSKI and Lugol's solution) used in the treatment of cough, asthma, chronic pulmonary disease; and amiodarone (CARDORONE), an iodine-rich medication used in the control of abnormal heart rhythms (cardiac arrhythmias).
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Definition of Iodine excess
Iodine excess: Just as too little iodine can cause thyroid disease, so may prolonged intake of too much iodine also lead to the development of goiter (swelling of the thyroid gland) and hypothyroidism (abnormally low thyroid activity). Certain foods and medications contain large amounts of iodine. Examples include seaweed; iodine-rich expectorants (such as SSKI and Lugol's solution) used in the treatment of cough, asthma, chronic pulmonary disease; and amiodarone (CARDORONE), an iodine-rich medication used in the control of abnormal heart rhythms (cardiac arrhythmias).


I don't have to worry...  I need to supplement Iodine quite often...  As long as you test with surface iodine, the body will absorb if it needs and not if it doesn't...  



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