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Cristina
Friday, December 18, 2009, 12:59am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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A male friend of us, 60 odd years old, A+ (he has a blood donor key ring given to him when he used to donate blood and the key ring says A+), secretor unknown, have been having dark rings appearing in his vision.  He went to the occulist to check eye health and glaucoma and everything seems OK.  The Occulist suggested to have aspirin to thin blood and said that sometimes people gets them with migraines.  But he does not have migraines.  He drinks a lot of milk, which we have adviced him to stop!!
Also, he regularly has Zinc suppls and some liquid supp his ND gave him for hormonal assist.  

Could it be Zinc overdose?  Eats wheat, but we have introduced him to Essene sprouted bread lately, so that has been an improvement on his diet.  He also works from home looking at PC screen all day.  He has the typical male 'pot beer belly', but otherwise seems fairly trim and fit.  Does not do much exercise per say, but does quite a bit of gardening around his place.

What else shall we do or advice him?    thanks  

PS: also, if the only purpose of having Aspirin is to thin blood, I told him to give lemon water a try instead.  How often though?  I have mine first thing in the morning, but in a case like this, should he have it various time during the day?





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Actually, he is here with us know, and his description of the symptoms as I drilled him a bit more, it is like 'tunnel vision'.  Anybody knows anything about it?  We are taking him to check his blood presure, just in case.

This has happened once or twice many years ago, but it has happened twice in the last two days!!  




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hand him a list of avoids and beneficials and have him make better overall food choices......his body will start healing and he might just want to get more compliant as he gets better.

what good is supplementing when he s going to keep on eating avoids? unknowingly of course.....

get him acquire a tunnel vision for BTD instead! lol


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Blood presure is high! So doctor ordered cholesterol checks and sugar checks to be taken tomorrow morning fasting.  While we were there I had my blood presure checked and (leading by example), it is perfect!  

Hopefully it will be easier now for our friend to pay a bit more attention to what goes in his mouth seeing that even though I seem to have more of a weight issue than him, my blood pressure is in the ideal range.
  I am all encouraging ...    !




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here are two things which he should give an eye onto:
1. forskolin the herb and of course 2.curcuma ........


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I do hope this is something he will look at as an opportunity to learn from. He caertainly has the best influence possible!

Now, about the "typical male 'pot beer belly"... Perhaps quite prevelent however not all inclusive of the gender  




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I get that type of vision when I'm about to come down with a migraine.


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Some people have occular migraines: visual disturbances without the headache. I get them, and usually no headache or a slight one for a few minutes.

My visual disturbances start with a block in my visual field which turns to scintillating lines that start in the center of my vision and gradually spread outward. Lasts about 45 minutes or so until I can see clearly again.


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I wonder if he has blood sugar problems.  


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I say either blood sugar or it's a migraine affect. I get tunnel vision sometimes with no pain..It's the chemistry in the brain..is he eating oranges? Tell him to stop eating oranges or drinking the juice.  My migraines stopped when I did.
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MF, my sister has what her doctor called "silent migraines."  It's the vision problem without the pain.


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MF, my sister has what her doctor called "silent migraines."  It's the vision problem without the pain.


Hmm. I get that too. But since I gave up all that is orange, I will sometimes get the pain (very mild) without the tunnel vision or I get the tunnel vision and then no pain. So it's been way better without the orange.  At least my sons know what bothers them from me being a health detective. My mother didn't have allergies and I had to figure it out for myself.
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Thanks all!!  The orange thing is interesting.  I know he has not been eating oranges, but he has been drinking this bought juice that has oranges and mango and some sort of additive number in it!! Both orange and mango avoids for As.!
Also, about the ocular symptoms without the pains, our pre-conceive ideas can be so wrong sometimes!  Thanks for being eye openers!  We are all getting our blood tests done in a couple of hours, and the cholesterol and sugar ones will be ready in a couple of days.  Today is Saturday for us, so being weekend, maybe by Tuesday ... Will keep you informed.  

I suppose the next advice regarding supps and protocol to follow will depend on what comes out from them (tests).  In the meantime, lets hope compliance will be the ruling factor in his life from now on!!  




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Hawthorn. It acts like a solvent in the cardiovascular system of Type A people. He obviously has cardiovascular issues.

Fish for inflammation and intestinal cleaning if he eats red meat (and is not explorer).

No black pepper or peppers at all, ever. These will greatly enhance the affects because they thicken blood.
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Black pepper thickens blood?


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I will get an ocular migraine on occasion, just as Kristen described hers.  I have reasoned that it stems from a problem with the gut in my case.
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Vision is linked with the liver. Maybe he should get his liver checked?
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