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Monty01
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Hi Everyone!

I was hoping for some suggestions.  I was wondering how my SWAMI should change after my candida diagnosis.  Does this eliminate the typical foods on a anti-candida diet: red wine, dairy (cheese), all fruit, grains etc?  I would appreciate any help.  I am very eager to recover my health!!

Thank you!
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The typical anti-candida diet is one size fits all and some parts will fit you while others don't. Your SWAMI diet will help create the optimal flora and keep candida under control.

Having said that, there are some supplements you may consider taking and also a temporary adjustment to your diet could help.

I've no doubt others will be along with more specific suggestions.
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have you checked the yeast/fungus protocol?

also the allergies book from the health series while you decide upon a swami


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How was the yeast diagnosis made?


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Monty01
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Hi Andrea...I've had stool tests (sorry tmi), muscle response testing, and drank some sort of sugar and blew into some sort of instrument
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sounds like a breath hydrogen test, the one you blew....

how many times did you blow?

Dr D emphasizes that particular test, determining how compromised the digestive track and gut are, in all three or four stages of transit time.

polyamines, yeast, Dysbiosis (also called dysbacteriosis).....you name it!


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And Monty, I believe you already have Swami?  




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We have recently ordered SWAMI (my Xmas presie ~ how exciting even if I know what it will be...), so I am not experienced using it. But. From what I gather from previous posts, candida is not listed amongst the health questions. However many questions indirectly relate to yeast infection as it can create such a wide array of symptoms (allergy and environmental sensitivities, digestive and skin problems, depression, PMS, well most of them really). By addressing these problems SWAMI recommends a diet that is aimed at correcting these issues, but more importanly initates a process of healing to restore balance to the compromised physic. As the body heals the yeast will be gradually diminishing.

When SWAMI recommends a diet, someone fighting a yeast infection might need to think of what is advised to be avoided on an anti-candida diet and what foods is the body able to tolerate at that stage. It is all very individual. For some it is enough to avoid the major offenders (refined carbs, sugar, alcohol, vinegar), others can eat some whole grains but no sweet things or dairy. Pulses, nuts, fruit and even vegetables can also be very offensive.

So when I will be looking at my SWAMI list, I will be asking what is it I know encourages yeast overgrowth? And what I know is good for me and my body can tolerate at this stage? Then I will be experimenting with those diamonds and super bennies for a while and as I am starting to feel better I will be gradually introducing the other recommended items. And be positive that one day I will be able to eat them all and reap the benefit they offer.  
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Quoted from Monty01
I was wondering how my SWAMI should change after my candida diagnosis.  


Did you do SWAMI Xpress yourself or have SWAMI done with a practitioner (using SWAMI GenoType)?



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We have recently ordered SWAMI (my Xmas presie ~ how exciting even if I know what it will be...), so I am not experienced using it. But. From what I gather from previous posts, candida is not listed amongst the health questions. However many questions indirectly relate to yeast infection as it can create such a wide array of symptoms (allergy and environmental sensitivities, digestive and skin problems, depression, PMS, well most of them really). By addressing these problems SWAMI recommends a diet that is aimed at correcting these issues, but more importanly initates a process of healing to restore balance to the compromised physic. As the body heals the yeast will be gradually diminishing.

When SWAMI recommends a diet, someone fighting a yeast infection might need to think of what is advised to be avoided on an anti-candida diet and what foods is the body able to tolerate at that stage. It is all very individual. For some it is enough to avoid the major offenders (refined carbs, sugar, alcohol, vinegar), others can eat some whole grains but no sweet things or dairy. Pulses, nuts, fruit and even vegetables can also be very offensive.

So when I will be looking at my SWAMI list, I will be asking what is it I know encourages yeast overgrowth? And what I know is good for me and my body can tolerate at this stage? Then I will be experimenting with those diamonds and super bennies for a while and as I am starting to feel better I will be gradually introducing the other recommended items. And be positive that one day I will be able to eat them all and reap the benefit they offer.  


aaaaaaa, that leaves beans.  I agree with being strict and trying to eat things that don't encourage both.  I am struggling with this right now.  But some of these anti candida books will have you eating nothing.  Cutting out fruit except for cranberries, lemons and limes will limit the nutrients you get.  Some dairy like cheeses have butyric acid in it, that kills yeast.  It's right in Dr.D's Intrinsa.  Ghee has it too.  Or butter.  

I think you have to be careful to not over limit yourself either.  I have done this and at times I don't know if I can tell the difference.  Now, sweet treats with sugar, yeah, those will make yeast grow like dandelions.  Heck, even some whole grains encourage it some, at least I feel, but I'm not going to stop eating them altogether.  I think Quinoa is the best though.

Anyways, my 2 cents.  But I'm looking forward to hearing what others have to say also.


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I suppose if you write 'YES' in your SWAMI about your intestinal problems , the program will recommended a diet for candida problems, no????


The 'common diet' for candida problems avoid all fruits, grains, etc....What about those food (fruits and grains)  Diamond or SF ??? May be avoided too??


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In SWAMI Xpress, I do not recall a question that specifically uses the wording "intestinal problems."

I presume you a referring to this question:
"Do you have a history of bowel or digestive problems:"

Note that question ask about history not current state. Also note that other things cause digestive and bowel problems than Candida. Candida infections can also affect non digestive organs (vagina Candida problems being common).




I have not tested changing the setting on enough clients to know how it changes people's diets. You can always change the settings

Checking on one case only- It makes some alterations that might help treat candida.

These are the changes it makes to how foods are rated when the box mentioned above is checked.

Allergens are no longer given special treatment (Previously food containing allergens had bee moderately deemphasized-client has allergy problems)

"Good Elimination Foods" went from moderate emphasis to Strong Emphasis

Foods that "Inhibits bacterial overgrowth" went from no special treatment to Strong Emphasis.

------------- Note changes are for one client -------------------
-----------------They will not apply in other cases--------------

Rabbit went black dot to neutral
Cornish Hen went neutral to Superfood
Ostrich went Superfood to diamond
Squab went Superfood to diamond

A number of fish moved around, generally
moving up in rating

Salmon roe, quail egg, goose eggs moved up

Ghee, Clarified Butter went Superfood to diamond
Parmesan Cheese went neutral to diamond
Pecorino Cheese went black dot to diamond
Romano Cheese went Superfood to diamond
... Generally cheeses moved up

Almonds went neutral to superfood
Almond butter went neutral to diamond.
--Comment: In my experience almonds and
almond butter make my candida worse.--
Beechnut moved black dot to neutral
Butternuts moved black dot to neutral
... Generally vegetable proteins moved up

Almond Oil went Superfood to diamond
Avocado Oil went neutral to superfood
Coconut Oil went neutral to superfood
Evening Primrose Oil went neutral to superfood
Peanut Oil went neutral to superfood
Sesame Oil went neutral to superfood
Sunflower Oil went neutral to superfood
... Generally oils moved up

Larch went superfood to diamond
Otherwise carbohydrates stayed the same

Beet Greens went neutral to diamond
Broccoflower went neutral to superfood
Canistel went neutral to superfood
Cauliflower went neutral to superfood
Celeriac went neutral to superfood
Mamey Sapote, Mammy Apple went neutral to superfood
Grape leaves black dot to neutral
Green leaf lettuce went black dot to neutral
Other things moved but trend in live foods is up

Dates went superfood to diamond
Passion Fruit went superfood to diamond
Peach went neutral to superfood
Pear went neutral to superfood
Tamarillos went black dot to neutral
Tangerines went black dot to neutral
Other things moved but trend in fruit is up

Trend in spices is for superfoods to become diamonds

Almond milk went from neutral to superfood
Kombucha Tea went black dot to neutral

Baking soda went neutral to superfood

Many changes to Geno Harmonic Foods that I will not list here







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Almonds ha?  I never noticed that with me.  But I'm always intrigued by Dates.  It's a diamond for me, It's a diamond on the teacher diet and they both are low bacterial overgrowth diets.  My swami and teacher.  Well, I am a teacher on both.  But dates are always diamonds.  They are about as sugary as it gets.  In fact, it seems like when I do eat them, my yeast will be worse for the short term after I ate them.  I wonder what's up with that, why they are suggested.

But I've never noticed almonds doing it to me.  I eat a LOT of nuts.  Maybe that's my problem.     I soak mine and roast though.  Hmmmmmm.....


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I'm always intrigued by Dates.  It's a diamond for me, It's a diamond on the teacher diet and they both are low bacterial overgrowth diets.  My swami and teacher.  Well, I am a teacher on both.  But dates are always diamonds.  They are about as sugary as it gets.  In fact, it seems like when I do eat them, my yeast will be worse for the short term after I ate them.  I wonder what's up with that, why they are suggested.


I do not think sugar content is the only thing that Dr. D. considers in determining whether a food encourages bacterial overgrowth or not.




Does your SWAMI either strongly or moderately deemphasize foods that encourage bacterial overgrowth?


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Kent, what GT was that particular swami for? and BT?


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Quoted from C_Sharp
In SWAMI Xpress, I do not recall a question that specifically uses the wording "intestinal problems."

I presume you a referring to this question:
"Do you have a history of bowel or digestive problems:"



Yes, it is the question.

I dont have Candida problems but I suppose that SWAMi helps to prevent it!!! (I said yes, 'to digestive problem question' because I had a severe colitis years ago)

I see a lot of fruits, dairy, cheesees, carbs  also red vine in my SF/Dia. list....so I have read many Naturopaths that think that those types of foods must be avoided to prevent candida problems???  What Dr. D think about this??  





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Kent, what GT was that particular swami for? and BT?


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I see a lot of fruits, dairy, cheesees, carbs  also red vine in my SF/Dia. list....so I have read many Naturopaths that think that those types of foods must be avoided to prevent candida problems???  What Dr. D think about this??   ?


I do not want to presume what Dr. D. thinks.

But he would consider a number factors before determining if a food was likely to fuel Candida in a particular patient.

He consider characteristics of a particular food not just the class (cheese, carb, ...) of food it is in.

He also considers characteristics of the patient (blood type, ...). So foods that are problem for one may not be for another.



At least some forms of cheeses (like Parmesan) are thought to inhibit overgrowth and are rated that way in SWAMI. Other cheeses (Neufchatel, Paneer, Port de Salut, ...) are considered to encourage overgrowth by SWAMI.

Certain fruits (like pomegranate, noni. plantain,...) are rated as encouraging overgrowth. But not all fruit.

Certain carbs (wheat products, rice flour, white rice, rye, soybean flour ...) are rated as encouraging overgrowth. But not all carbs.

Some live foods (Parsnips, Okra for example) are rated as encouraging overgrowth.

I do not know how wine is rated.



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Thanks a lot C sharp for explanation!!!!


for me MANCHEGO, PARMESAN and MOZARELA are Diamons, I think all  inhibit overgrowth  bacterial (common problem in Teacher GT).

Also red vine SF....I not sure my gut feel ok with it.

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He also considers characteristics of the patient (blood type, ...). So foods that are problem for one may not be for another.


Yes, its the different between Dr.D and the others  Naturopahts who usually recommended the same diet for intestinal and candida problems.....


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Yep


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Just done SWAMI, it has confirmed my conculsions that I am a Gatherer (came out with a strong association) and have been following the right diet, phew.   Recently I was eating very close to what SWAMI has just come up with, but there are lots more diamonds and I am especially thrilled with the extended veggie section. I wanted to be conservative, so I checked a few boxes in the health sections that I felt might need a bit of boost even though I never really had a problem with them. The report looks good, even with my caution its a plentiful food list. Now I just hope that I can eat them!

Anyway, just wanted to add that foods that inhibit bacterial overgrowth are strongly emphasised. I guess this is one way of dealing with the candida issue.

Yes, some of the candida diet recommendations are very restrictive, but they probably came about because there are people  who can tolerate very little with a yeast overgrowth. It does restrict nutrient availability, but if the yeast is very severe it can be difficult to eat even just vegetables. Then things are very tough.  
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I wanted to be conservative, so I checked a few boxes in the health sections that I felt might need a bit of boost even though I never really had a problem with them.  


Be carefull about checking too many items. Note: That in my test above checking "Do you have a history of bowel or digestive problems:", caused the person to loose protection against allergens even though both "Do you have a history of allergy or autoimmune problems:" and "Do you have a history of environmental sensitivities: " boxes were still checked.

When too many items are selected in SWAMI they will cancel each other out.



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Thanks, I'll have another look. I checked rather a few boxes!
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I sarted to take ACTIVATOR teacher,

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Also Im taking CATALYS and SYNERGIST Teacher supp.


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I do too!  They work really well for me.  Although I don't always take the synergist, I take Unique E most times.  But when that is too much, I take the synergist.


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