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 Nonnies: was your Genotype different after Swami?
Yes, I am Type A non-secretor (18 votes)
25.35%
No, I am Type O non-secretor (14 votes)
19.72%
Yes, I am Type O non-secretor (12 votes)
16.90%
Yes, I am type B non-secretor (7 votes)
9.86%
No, I am Type A non-secretor (7 votes)
9.86%
No, I am type B non-secretor (5 votes)
7.04%
Yes, I am type AB non-secretor (4 votes)
5.63%
I am a secretor who wants to participate in this poll anyways ... (2 votes)
2.82%
No, I am type AB non-secretor (1 votes)
1.41%
I still don't have enough data to be sure Swami is correct ... (1 votes)
1.41%
71 Votes Total Last vote Friday, November 16, 2012, 6:29pm by Xuxuzinha
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There are many Non-secretors who have been seen their understanding of their health issues change and deepen, when Swami calculates a different Genotype.  Did Swami (either Xpress or a practitioner running Pro) surprise you?


My weight loss goal: 220 lbs.  A 6'4" dyslexic oddball: the size of a line-backer, the silhouette of Winnie-the-Pooh.
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It didn't change my GT at all but it sure changed my food lists a lot. For the better  



Rh-, ISFP, Super Taster, Non-Secretor 52% SWAMI-XP'd Explorer.

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It didn't change my GT either, but gave me a much wider range of foods.  It incorporated alot of the BTD foods too.  I like it much better than just the straight Gatherer food lists.



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Yes, swami changed my GT to Explorer.  From the book I would have been Nomad.  Plus the book gave me the impression that you are definitly the GT the charts show you to be, regardless of whether the strength testing agreed with it or not.
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Yes.....changed me from Explorer to Gatherer....yet gave me back most of my B- Nonnie foods.


OUCH!!   My dogma was just run over by my karma!
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Reading the descriptions in the book, I identified much more with the Nomad GT than with any other.  However, with the measurements and the advanced calculator I was a Gatherer.  The Gatherer diet certainly didn't fit my needs.  The vanilla Nomad diet wasn't right for me either.  Anyway, SWAMI identified me as a Nomad, and my diet is a combination of the Nomad and B-nonnie BTD.  I am satisfied thus far that the SWAMI version is an improvement over either the vanilla Nomad diet and the BTD.
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Explorer to Teacher.
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TJ- what is a vanilla Nomad- haven't seen that before. Thanks!
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SWAMI TEACHER
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I changed from Nomad to Teacher GT, with a mixture of nomad food list and AB noni


Teacher's motto, "all you need is love".
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Quoted from geminisue
TJ- what is a vanilla Nomad- haven't seen that before. Thanks!


"Vanilla Nomad" in this case would be the basic Nomad diet in the book.  




Rh-, ISFP, Super Taster, Non-Secretor 52% SWAMI-XP'd Explorer.

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Gatherer to Explorer.......NOT happy~!  I'll take the food list for Gatherer any day - Explorer stinks for nonnies (for my personal likes and dislikes that is).


All that we are is the result of what we have thought  (Buddha)
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have you done your swami yet, G Nay?


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54% Nomad
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Quoted from geminisue
TJ- what is a vanilla Nomad- haven't seen that before. Thanks!


Right on Heidi.  People in the open source software community (linux) often use the term "vanilla" to describe a software package that hasn't been modified from the original form.
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Lola - Yes, I've done SWAMI and the secreter test - confirmed nonnie.  SWAMI puts me at 39% Explorer according to my health history, measurements, etc.

It is what it is...I'm adjusting  


All that we are is the result of what we have thought  (Buddha)
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It kept me as an Explorer but my food list changed quite a bit.  The majority of items shifted one way left or right some changed 2 ways over.  I am closer now to my former B nonnie diet than to the generic Explorer diet.


I am B- NON-Sec Explorer; my son is B+ SEC Nomad; my Mother was O+; and my Father was AB-
SWAMI Thanksgiving present 2008
Revised from Arlene B- NonSec to RedLilac on 3/31/06
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Quoted from Sharon004
Yes, swami changed my GT to Explorer.  From the book I would have been Nomad.  Plus the book gave me the impression that you are definitly the GT the charts show you to be, regardless of whether the strength testing agreed with it or not.
Well the strength testing should have been the final arbiter, if you were not narrowed to just one in the basic or intermediate calculators.

Quoted from Heidi
It didn't change my GT at all but it sure changed my food lists a lot. For the better
When I saw the first picture of you, Heidi I knew you are an Explorer!  Although there are differences, you remind me of both my sister and my mother (when I was a tyke).


My weight loss goal: 220 lbs.  A 6'4" dyslexic oddball: the size of a line-backer, the silhouette of Winnie-the-Pooh.
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Genotype calculations came out Gatherer, but I knew I was a Hunter, because I strength tested Hunter and the Gatherer profile didn't seem to fit.  Swami put me at around 54% Hunter.  


shine!
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was typed first as a warrior...then mutated to explorer.....my foodlists were constantly adapted... but didn't fit....anyway; so far I am on the recommendations of doing a mix between both BTD and GTD....but on the nonniefoodlists ....but then I think the latest given list might be the most accurat-one... so far... I'm pleased to give a try here, even with venison and some polenta ....but I assure you I won't touch any wheat,macadamian nuts ,nor pumkinseeds,sunflowerseeds nor soy products... nor blackstrap molasse....and then the super joky is,,, I can have wheatfree senape...but then other wheatproducts are allowed.... I know and remembered all kinds of wheat gave me inflammations, so far... bye..........


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Morning everyone!

I answered yes because the GTD book confirmed Teacher and I think Explorer or Nomad of which I paid little attention because Swami was enroute. But Swami said 56% Hunter which is what I really suspected.

It's interesting, we like titles don't we It's like at banks, everyone is a VP!

But the reality is, "it is what it is" regardless of a title. The diet, supplements, exercise, and lifestyle are what we really need to focus on.




If you keep doing what you've always done, and you keep getting what you've aways got, perhaps it's time for a change...

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Quoted from Golfzilla
Morning everyone!

I answered yes because the GTD book confirmed Teached


Teacher? That can't be right. No way you could ever be a Teacher as an O    

Glad I look the part Paul   There was never any doubt in my mind.




Rh-, ISFP, Super Taster, Non-Secretor 52% SWAMI-XP'd Explorer.

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Quoted from Heidi


Teacher? That can't be right. No way you could ever be a Teacher as an O    

Glad I look the part Paul   There was never any doubt in my mind.



My book is at home, I'll have to look tonight. Regardless, strength testing did not show me to be a Hunter in the book by a lot... But as I mentioned Swami said Hunter by 56%




If you keep doing what you've always done, and you keep getting what you've aways got, perhaps it's time for a change...
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Ahh, I see. Going by strenght testing alone could get people in all kinds of trouble  

I kind of skipped right over that part of the book when I was determining GT and went right to the measuring and tables in the back. Going back, just for fun, I test strongest for Explorer and Hunter comes in second.

I didn't know my secretor status when I first read the book so for a brief (10 minutes or less) time I though there was a chance I could be a Teacher. We had done my fingers incorrectly. Had I know my secretor status there would have been no doubt even with the incorrect measurment. (Secretor = Teacher, Non-secretor = Explorer with that set of measurments)



Rh-, ISFP, Super Taster, Non-Secretor 52% SWAMI-XP'd Explorer.

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Quoted from Heidi
Ahh, I see. Going by strenght testing alone could get people in all kinds of trouble  

I kind of skipped right over that part of the book when I was determining GT and went right to the measuring and tables in the back. Going back, just for fun, I test strongest for Explorer and Hunter comes in second.

I didn't know my secretor status when I first read the book so for a brief (10 minutes or less) time I though there was a chance I could be a Teacher. We had done my fingers incorrectly. Had I know my secretor status there would have been no doubt even with the incorrect measurment. (Secretor = Teacher, Non-secretor = Explorer with that set of measurments)


I went completely through the GTD book step by step and had an ND measure me. I recorded everything in the book, answered all the questions, etc. And still Hunter was second to lowest score...




If you keep doing what you've always done, and you keep getting what you've aways got, perhaps it's time for a change...
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At first I thought I was a hunter, then the measurements had me gatherer by a hair. The SWAMI has me as explorer, altho the diet seems more a blend of hunter & gatherer.  I read the 'tips of the day' & the descriptions have me a mix of hunter & gatherer more than explorer. Yeah, I am left-handed & can't tolerate caffeine, but I am amazingly hunter-gatherer in my needs & behavior.
The test you take to see if you should do BTD or GTD had me as GTD, but SWAMI has me as a blend, which is easier to eat. The few things I had to give up(or relegate to dot status)when doing the gatherer diet made it extremely difficult. It's amazing how these few foods-broccoli, beets, sweet potatoes, avocados, & maybe a few others-make my life so much easier!  I'm not compltely convinced that I'm a nonnie, but all points to it. I know there are demarcations in each GT & you must be only one of them, but I'm sure I am so close to all 3 O GTs. It would be nice to have SWAMI in person & get a Lewis blood test, but this is it for now.


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Quoted Text
I am a secretor who wants to participate in this poll anyways ..

Nobody makes polls for secretors
well I did
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1265902459/


ENFP -naturalist, visual/spatial and musical/verbal/chatty Dane- Mother to DD Emma age 19,
0 rh- secr ( Hunter or Explorer )
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I still don't know my genotype, but Andrea ran through my SWAMI twice, once as a secretor and once as a non-secretor. I'm a Gatherer either way.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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I still don't know my genotype

you mean your secretor type.....


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Just confirmed it...

But I strength tested as Explorer too.

It is all so new I am still comparing foods to the previous incarnations as O Nonnie and Book Explorer.

Since I don't have genome stuff yet, and I am half N Euro and half C Euro (does anyone know what Hungarians are considered? being Finno-Ugric-- I think we aren't really C European)I am not sure what ethnicity to put.

My coloring is from the Danish half and bone structure from the Hungarian half.
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''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
DNA mt/Haplo H; Y-chrom/J2(M172);ISTJ
The harder you are on yourself, the easier life will be on you!

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YES! I came out a Gatherer using the my secretor status/GTB, but when i swamied myself, i am Explorer!
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Lola I must have missed the eastern European option...
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Quoted from Heidi


Teacher? That can't be right. No way you could ever be a Teacher as an O    



I'm hoping that in the next publications of strength testing that it will be made clearer that we should be ignoring the columns that are relevant to blood types that cannot be ours. Our naturopath even fell into this mistake on first glance.






Eating half and exercising double.
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I still don't know my genotype, but Andrea ran through my SWAMI twice, once as a secretor and once as a non-secretor. I'm a Gatherer either way.


Now, for someone like you, don't you still have reasons to want to know if you're a nonnie?



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it is clear however, if you know your BT, you go straight to advanced, only


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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GTD said I was Teacher

Swami says I'm Explorer

Out of interest I re-ran swami as secretor but it kept me as explorer.  

Lots of differences between explorer foods in book vs. explorer foods in Swami. I definitely prefer the swami explorer foods !!


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GTD said I was Teacher

Swami says I'm Explorer

Out of interest I re-ran swami as secretor but it kept me as explorer.  

Lots of differences between explorer foods in book vs. explorer foods in Swami. I definitely prefer the swami explorer foods !!


Shucks - Just when I thought I was understanding all this...


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GTD put me as hunter first, before I knew my secretor status. When I found out my secretor status (not that I am 100% certain, but as a Lewis double negative the chances of being a secretor are very slim!) GTD then typed me as explorer. It didn't seem a good fit in any way. However, Swami has made me a gatherer...and 6 weeks along, I am one happy little gatherer  


FIfHI

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Quoted Text
Out of interest I re-ran swami as secretor but it kept me as explorer.


you made sure to click on the compute my GT box, right?
otherwise, it computes by default


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When I found out my secretor status (not that I am 100% certain, but as a Lewis double negative the chances of being a secretor are very slim!)

get a saliva test,  


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Hi Lola yes I clicked on compute


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great!


''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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paul clucas
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Quoted from snazzyshazz
GTD put me as hunter first, before I knew my secretor status. When I found out my secretor status (not that I am 100% certain, but as a Lewis double negative the chances of being a secretor are very slim!) GTD then typed me as explorer. It didn't seem a good fit in any way. However, Swami has made me a gatherer...and 6 weeks along, I am one happy little gatherer  
I have never had much doubt that I am an Explorer, Snazzyshazz.  

I did get a little obsessed about whether or not I am Lewis double negative near the end of last year, while not being willing to pay to know.  When I checked the LDN box in my Swami and looked for differences in my food lists, not one thing changed.  LDN and Explorer are not identical in my opinion, but it may be that being LDN "forces" you to be an Explorer. My wife is an A+ sec , and although she types as an Explorer, she has little of the quirky traits that I used to associate with the Explorer label.

All Explorers may be equal, but LDN Explorers may be more equal than the others.  


My weight loss goal: 220 lbs.  A 6'4" dyslexic oddball: the size of a line-backer, the silhouette of Winnie-the-Pooh.
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Quoted from Lola
it is clear however, if you know your BT, you go straight to advanced, only


I decided to remeasure my torso and leg lengths because when I did it, I did it myself.  My husband had just had surgery and I did not want to wait until he was out of the hospital.  I found a couple of interesting things when we did the re-measure.  (My legs are only about a 1/2 inch longer than my torso.)

#1 In the Advanced Calculator, there is a glitch if your torso and your legs are equal in length.  As a woman, O+ non-secretor with longer ring fingers and longer upper legs, you are an Explorer if you go to Torso longer or Equal Section.  If you go to the Legs Longer or Equal Section, woman, O+ non-secretory with longer ring fingers and longer upper legs, you are a Hunter.  So if your legs are equal in length to your torso and you are a woman, the book is confusing.  I am not sure if this issue arises in other instances

#2 When we re-measured, we used a tape measure meant for surveyors.  It is done in tenths instead of twelvths and you cannot measure down to say a 32nd of an inch, since it is meant for measuring large land areas.  When we used this, my torso measured longer than my legs, making me an Explorer.  I changed my SWAMI to reflect the new measurements The measurement for Torso/Leg length was time locked, so I couldn't change that, but I thought it was interesting that SWAMI told me it did not agree with my GT.

We re-measured again with a regular tape measure and I am once again a Hunter and my SWAMI is happy!


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Quoted from Patty H
#1 In the Advanced Calculator, there is a glitch if your torso and your legs are equal in length.  As a woman, O+ non-secretor with longer ring fingers and longer upper legs, you are an Explorer if you go to Torso longer or Equal Section.  If you go to the Legs Longer or Equal Section, woman, O+ non-secretory with longer ring fingers and longer upper legs, you are a Hunter.  So if your legs are equal in length to your torso and you are a woman, the book is confusing.

The statement regarding this at the top of the tables on pages 294 and 295 should be the same as on pages 296 and 297.  Per page 60, the tie always goes to the torso...


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No  but my foods changed. I'm very happy with my SWAMI results  
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I actually got SWAMI before I ever read the GenoType diet. SWAMI has me surprisingly as a Teacher (45%) even that I'm RH neg and a noonie, the book types me as an Explorer.
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Bekki Shining Bearheart and Lola
There is NO Eastern European option on SWAMI (at least I did not find one) I'm 3/4 of hungarian descent myself and I had to settle on central european.
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Lola
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try central


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I was an Explorer on every strength test in the GTD book... but when I input my data into SWAMI I was 38% Gatherer.  My guess is SWAMI must have seen a good chunk of Hunter too and a tiny bit of explorer because there are parts of each I really identify with... just don't completely qualify for any of them.  

Confusing!!!
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I'm a Nomad from the Genotype book and my Swami gives me a strong match for Nomad.  Well!  



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Spring
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I'm a Warrior from Genotype and, of course, a 47% Explorer with SWAMI. Many food changes. I like being an Explorer! I am large-boned (Explorer), but not left handed. No Rh negative blood type, but I am a non-secretor! I am not brown-eyed or dark-haired, but I am a super-taster! And not many doctors have ever understood any problems I've had until I figured it out myself and told them - an Explorer challenge, for sure! So far, haven't had any liver or gallbladder problems, though. I hate coffee! Dr. D. has a lot to say about the Explorer having the propensity to be anemic, but I have never seen anything like that - more apt to be the opposite. So it is all very interesting, to say the least!


"We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." -- Benjamin Franklin
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I was a teacher according to the GTD book & according to SWAMI without my secretor status entered. I just got my results back today & I'm a nonnie. After entering in non-secretor (& making sure to select "choose my genotype"), my percentage went down from 53% to 51%. White & whole wheat flour moved from neutral to avoid (bummer). White wine & seltzer water moved from avoid to neutral (yay!). I've still gotta go through any changes more closely, but that's what I saw at first glance. I'm so happy that I stayed a Teacher since the work out suggestions & foods work well for me.  


DH=B+, DD1=O+, DD2=A+ & DS=?
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Quoted from Spring
And not many doctors have ever understood any problems
This screams Explorer, but can happen to other Genotypes to lesser degrees.



My weight loss goal: 220 lbs.  A 6'4" dyslexic oddball: the size of a line-backer, the silhouette of Winnie-the-Pooh.
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I seem to "fit" with the health challenges of both Explorers and Gatherers. SWAMI has me as Gatherer though, so I guess "blood sugar stability" is a higher priority than "detox" for me right now. I wonder if it will change if I ever lose these 25 pounds.

I definitely have more liver issues (and a lower alcohol tolerance) than my 17yo Explorer DD.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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This was a new thought for me, Ruth, as swami has me as gatherer but all foods and Geno
Harmonic  foods are for detox.

Opps sorry guess this was only for nonnies. my bad


Swami, 100% me..
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I was balancing between Hunter and Explorer and secretor status was one of the trigers. Since I've put in some more details into SWAMI (low platelet count, personality test) it puts me as an Explorer regardless secretor status. And this is interesting because according to Advanced Calculator I could be an Explorer only if Non-secretor, whereas with Secretor I'm 45% Explorer, Non-secretor 48%, 47% with no status.

By the way, how do you get your Genotype showing under avatar??
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By the way, how do you get your Genotype showing under avatar??

Go to the "Member Center" above, click on "Profile Information", scroll down to "Personal Message" and type in what you want.

For reference, this is where I have "34% Nomad".


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Changing my husband from unknown to nonnie changed him from 44% Hunter to 40% explorer.  My son however is a warrior by the advanced genotype table in the book and swami, being a nonnie just lowered his percentage by a few points.
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Quoted from mortless

By the way, how do you get your Genotype showing under avatar??


Here are some instructions:

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-ref/m-1219018887/#num1


MIfHI                            I follow a SWAMI diet.
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Yes, SWAMI changed me from a Warrior to a Teacher after I had been following the GT5 diet for four years or so......and developed arthritis...... must have been all of that celery and oatmeal I was eating!  


Romans 5:1-11  

BTD since 1997, GTD since 2007, SWAMI since 2011, Compliant since 3/13   Husband A+ sec.
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I am  abit disappointed in the central european option for Hungarians since we aren't really! hereditarily we are a breed apart
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All of my mom's folks came from northeastern Hungary in the foothills of the mountains.  I think that would also make a genetic difference-- and surely the translvanians would also be a bit different...anyone have a clue about this?
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Does anyone come out as 100% of a genotype or close with Swami?

Hmm I just realized if SWAMI changes what I am my forum name won't fit any more lol.
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If anybody came out 100% one genotype, or even as high as 90%, that person didn't really need SWAMI. He or she could have followed the lists in the book with great results.

I'm not entirely sure what Andrea entered into my SWAMI for nationality.  My ancestors come from Eastern Europe- Russia, Romania, and Poland. But since I got a SWAMI pro rather than a SWAMI XPress, I just gave my info to Andrea and she figured out what to enter into the computer.

Bekkki- I suppose you could try changing your nationality in SWAMI and see if it makes any significant differences in the end result. Play around with a few different options if none of them seem to be a "perfect fit."


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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Quoted from 19000
Does anyone come out as 100% of a genotype or close with Swami?

I think the highest % I've seen anyone who has posted their's is 60 or 62%...  


RH-, ISTJ
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Thanks.  I was curious.
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