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DoS
Monday, November 23, 2009, 8:03am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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By switching my body type it changes me GenoType.

I have marked down that tendons show on my wrists, and they do. They show more on the right than the left. Also I have marked that my fingers overlap. If I wrap on my left wrist they easily do, if I do it on my right they do but not by a lot. By comparison my Father's do not even touch and I am pretty sure my brothers do not either. They seem to be warriors (brother is without a doubt). I have wider shoulders than my brother but smaller hips, much smaller arms. They are both 1-2in taller than me but have much larger bodies it seems.

The problem here is... I have never been skinny enough to know that I am for sure a meso-ectomorph. I can see muscle when I flex but frankly it is not very big despite my size which is entirely generated around the fat content on my body. I can also out wrestle my brother any day, ha (even when he played football). Anyways if I change it on swami it changes my GenoType.

Regardless of that, which I want to refine, I have figure out enough base principles of what makes me feel half right and kick candida. The last thing in the world that works out well is the Explorer diet.

Anyways I just wanted to share that bit, because it is hard to know for sure. I believe other people have probably experienced this situation too.

I can say I seem to lose weight whenever I follow the Teacher diet long enough to scare myself into the Explorer diet but the only reason it ever seemed right for me was because I needed probiotics. Everything seems first dependent on flora balance, then candida, then cleansing up my cardiovascular system some so my kidneys feel ok, after that I can eat a lot more without bad consequences. I just worry about weight loss since some balance I can not define yet with this diet is the only way I lose weight without self torture of working out too hard. Low calories and working out does nothing. Hell I do not feel right unless I eat a bunch of complex carbohydrates without candida in my system.
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Monday, November 23, 2009, 3:24pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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When you change the setting how much does it actually change the food lists?

That would be of more interest to me than a label like 'Explorer' or 'Warrior' or 'Teacher'.
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It changes between Teacher and Warrior.
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Quoted from Lloyd
When you change the setting how much does it actually change the food lists?

That would be of more interest to me than a label like 'Explorer' or 'Warrior' or 'Teacher'.


I did the same thing on my SWAMI, but it did not change my genotype. I changed mesomorph to ecto-meso, which is more accurate.

The change in the foodlist is what happened. Lamb, goat, mutton, and rabbit went from superfoods to diamonds. Also moose, caribou and venison went from black dot to neutral. I also got a few more cheeses as SF's or neutrals.


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Quoted from DoS
It changes between Teacher and Warrior.


But, as Lloyd asks, how different are your two personalized food lists, regardless of pigeon hole name.?




Eating half and exercising double.
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They are very similar but some things are hard to understand. A few things go from never eat to maybe even diamond and vise-versa. Because of the detox (candida dieing mostly) it is hard to always know what is benefiting me.
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what's wrong with being an explorer? or the diet?
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The diet for me is interesting... (explorer)

I do feel good with it but none of my problems go away. I become very physically active but I lose no weight, I do not have much apatite, my kidneys never feel right, I have allergies, I can not eat grains at all, etc... I gave it a good shot since the book would have me believe I am one.
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why not go back to basics for a while following your allergies book and protocols specific to your physiology.....
then, think about a swami, once your issues have been taken care of...
once you let swami compute your genotype.....all will fall in place.


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My allergies do not bug me at all now, or I have none essentially that I have encountered. Aside from that I concentrate on good ratios of food and mostly on ones that keep stress down. A lot of the diamond foods are vitamin K or blood thinners so I eat a LOT OF THEM. It might have a lot to do with candida die off and stress but it is necessary or it just burns no matter how much fish oil I have.

Really though SWAMI is completely dependent on my body type so unless I lose enough weight I am not sure what is right. I mean an awful lot of things point in both directions. I naturally gravitate towards the Teacher food more... a great many things fit me, but blood thickness and trouble losing weight has been everything lately. Fact is with candida die off it is hard for me to know what is up or down. I do not know if my senses turning on or off to certain things is the Teacher aspect or candida aspect.

My rib cage recently shrunk down some after some strong good vegetables, yogurt, and Reutri. It seems like my whole insides are just not under the same pressure that made it puff up so much (or so I imagined?). It certainly makes me look smaller even though my size is completely deceptive. I could never figure out why my chest stuck up so much but now perhaps it just does not.
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My allergies do not bug me at all now, or I have none essentially that I have encountered.




''Just follow the book, don't look for magic fixes to get you off the hook. Do the work.'' Dr.D.'98
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It sounds like the diet is working in ways that you were not expecting...  Sometimes we have to continue to provide the good foods and let the body heal where it places the priority.  Maybe there are some internal organs that need healing so the body can handle the fat properly...


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I personally think that a Teacher can be thrifty. I'm one of them. SWAMI says I'm 41% Teacher and so there are other factors besides classic Teacher ones that affect me. I am extremely resistant to losing weight for one. I have always been a slow loser too, but now I'm slower at this point in my life. I know I'm a teacher, though. I know that one of my biggest problems is that I need more exercise and so I am ramping that up. I seem to need the variety of proteins of my SWAMI Teacher diet. The veggies and fruits I'm allowed seem right too. Right now I am struggling with dairy, but I think over time I will be able to reintroduce them. I think that over time, the Warrior dairy, much like the Explorer dairy, doesn't work for me.

Here's one thing that might be interesting. SWAMI seemed to calculate my bodytype. My fingers wrap around my wrist with a lot of room to spare but I am not a lanky, lean Teacher. If I put ectomorph into SWAMI, the printout ends up saying I'm a meso-ectomorph. Then, I believe that when I go back into edit SWAMI, it has replaced ectomorph with meso-ectomorph. I always click outside the drop down menu, so I don't  think this is a matter of some kind of scrolling of the options.

Given what I weigh, combined with my fingers overlapping my wrists, meso-ectomorph is probably correct. When I see my upper body, I don't have the kind of bulging muscles that the pictures show, although I do think I have quite a bit of muscle under a layer of fat, and my arms/shoulders are pretty strong. My legs probably fit with meso-ectomorph seeing my calves are pretty muscular. My thought is that SWAMI is onto something and knows better. My legs are never twig-like when I'm thin, so perhaps that kind of build would translate to meso-ectomorph.

When you put in one build or the other, does SWAMI ever spew out something else?

I will check SWAMI and see if I get the same result.

Also, I think that since the candida/digestion issues are the crux of your problems would mean Teacher would likely be the right one.
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When I put in Ectomorph again, I got mesomorph or meso-ectomorph, but it left ectomorph as the selected item in the drop down menu.

Also, I just discovered my genotype may be in the balance and I could be an Explorer (again) at 38%. Hmmmm. When I first input my data into SWAMI, I had assumed I had 4 whorls. I hadn't made actually prints. I noticed later that one of my index fingers seems to have a composite of a whorl and a loop. I also have since made some prints, although they are a little hard to read. Now that the fingerprints aren't time locked, I put in that it's a radial loop not a whorl. It doesn't explain what my bodytype is as it isn't using that to compute the genotype. It does say  that the index finger asymmetry suggests explorer.

I will have to try to make a NYC meetup and show people this print. It may not have a true extra delta. It is like there is a whorl within a loop. Have people seen a print that sounds like that?

Anyway, It has a much different list of cheeses! Maybe this is the list of cheeses I should be really using. I do, however, have issues with my gut that suggest that Teacher fits me. I had diverticulitis 2.5 years ago and felt like it was coming back on the Teacher diet. Also, the last time I ate lamb, not on my SWAMI TEacher diet, I felt a twinge in the area where my diverticulitis had been. Lamb is a neutral in the SWAMI Explorer diet. I do love and feel very nourished by bone broths, which come back as a neutral in the Explorer diet.  Maybe I need to try this version of SWAMI and see how I feel. At this point, though, I may react to these cheeses given my allergy issues.

Beneficial dairy:
Feta Cheese
Ghee, Clarified Butter
Milk, Indian buffalo
Mozzarella Cheese, all types
Paneer Cheese ◊
Parmesan Cheese ◊
Pecorino Cheese ◊
Ricotta Cheese
Romano Cheese ◊

Neutral dairy:
Farmer Cheese
Kefalotyri Cheese
Manchego Cheese
Quark Cheese
Romanian Urda
Sour Cream
String Cheese
Yogurt
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Oh, thanks. I think it is something similar to the double loop, but where one part just has blunt ends rather than a curvilinear loop. That one shown looks yin-yang like and this isn't. The part I was seeing as a whorl is also more linear than circular. I have a feeling the loop aspect is more dominant than the whorl.
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Right now I am home with my brother and father. They both dwarf me in bone size. It is funny because I always feel huge compared to most humans. Perhaps that is just a lingering thing as I may not be all that big. I do know I can out wrestle them though, any day.

Chandon are there pictures of you somewhere? The normal explorer build is pretty darn easy to spot.

I think I need to eat some more swiss chard, or start again. In the past it seem to do me some favors... I think it helps balance the intestines really well for me.
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I might have a good picture to post. I'll try to this weekend.
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Lola, the fingerprint site was very interesting-- it has been a while since I looked but I think I may have 1 or 2 of these.

So how are these unusual ones categorized for Genotype purposes? Are they considered variations on one of the standard prints? I would assume that the tented arch is an arch morphing into a loop, but probably still an arch?

Most of my finger prints do not match hand to hand and my palm lines are different as well...

Wonder if this is related to the unusual fingerprints.
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these are the options given in swami for fingerprint patterns only
arch,
composite,
Radial Loop,
tented arch,
Ulnar Loop,
whorl


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I'll try to post my 2 D2 prints tomorrow, if I can figure it out.
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I was able to scan my prints and then cropped them in powerpoint. They seemed clear enough to share, but when I copied them to put into a photosharing site, they lost their readability. I'll have to try again later.

I posted a picture of me under a different thread on A types and vigorous exercise. I'm not sure it is descriptive enough to tell if I look like an Explorer.
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please be careful, posting fingerprints, can be dangerous, so easily copied.   Remember CAUTION
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please be careful, posting fingerprints, can be dangerous, so easily copied.   Remember CAUTION


That's a good point. I guess I shouldn't post them. Whether I enter radial loop or composite, I get the same result, 38% Explorer. It's probably safe to say I'm really an Explorer. The diet still retains many elements from the Teacher SWAMI, but some differences that will probably be helpful. I'm also needing the intense exercise, although it is exhausting trying to get in shape using a specific plan I'm trying to use. I think it's best just to move toward the goal, not necessarily reach it right away, in terms of how much and how often. I am and A anyway!

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