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beachlvr58
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I'm sooooooooo confused. .I just found out that I should be on genotype after being on the BT diet and I'm an explorer..now i hear about swami..jesu..Anyone here have a sample menu or can tell me what or not to eat as far as a link for foods to avoid or bene?

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Just borrow the book from your local library & look over the food lists.  I like the genotype list better than the BTD list.   No pressure, just look it over, you may be pleasantly surprised.
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Quoted from beachlvr58
I'm sooooooooo confused. .I just found out that I should be on genotype after being on the BT diet and I'm an explorer..now i hear about swami..jesu..Anyone here have a sample menu or can tell me what or not to eat as far as a link for foods to avoid or bene?

Are you sure you are an Explorer?  That was awfully fast that you determined your genotype, so I am just wondering.

The list of which foods are best for your type and which are best avoided is only in the GenoType Diet book, so you definitely need the book.  As for SWAMI, don't worry about that right now.  Let's just get you going on the GTD, and SWAMI can come later if you wish to customize things even more.  If you try to do everything at once, you're going to end up as a deer in headlights (illustration = ).  Take it easy on yourself.  The GTD is exquisitely, awesomely customized.  SWAMI can wait until you are comfy and familiar with the basic GTD for your genotype, imho.

By the way, WELCOME!


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Quoted from beachlvr58
I'm sooooooooo confused. .I just found out that I should be on genotype after being on the BT diet and I'm an explorer..now i hear about swami..jesu..Anyone here have a sample menu or can tell me what or not to eat as far as a link for foods to avoid or bene?


Even though you took the test and even though the GTD came out higher for you, unless
you specifically want to work on your genetics and health issues that are related, it is
still entirely up to you if you prefer to stay on the blood type diet for O.  Was it working?
Did you like it?  You do not have to switch.

The test is for those who don't know which way they want to go...so they might have
some direction..but if you're happy where you are, it's fine to stay on the BTD for O.
You might want to stay where you are for awhile until you completely feel comfortable
to move on.  See, the GTD is like moving on...It's newer research...It doesn't negate
the BTD...It merely goes further with Dr. D's research into genetics.

Did you actually measure yourself to see that you're an Explorer?  Or do you just think
that maybe you are?

The thing about SWAMI is that it's customized and individual...there would be no way for anyone who did a SWAMI to be able to share their diet with you.  Of course, they could share if they choose to, but it wouldn't be "the" right diet for you....They would have answered questions based on their ancestry and health profiles....

Really, if this is making you confused because you took the test, remember that which
way you want to go is still up to you.  Many people here are following the BTD...It
might be an easier way for you to start....until you know your way around....

Just so you understand this, in order to get properly genotyped, you need to measure
very carefully, know your secretor status, measure your finger length, your torso, the
length of your torso in relation to your upper and lower body...take a "taster test", although it's not mandatory...PT explained this to you in a way I think is very clear...
You want to be absolutely certain you're measuring correctly to wind up with the
right genotype group...and eat the right foods.  You can never go wrong eating for type
O on the BTD.

If you still would prefer to do the GTD, it's best to buy and read the book or get it out of the library just to familiarize yourself with what this is all about.

Welcome and Good luck...



"The happiest people don't have the best of everything.....they know how to make the best of everything!"
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beachlvr58
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Thanks peppermint twist and chloe..I'm not sure I'm an explorer now when i read the physical attributes. I did measure legs and fingers but I'm tall, long legged and muscular. I was thin most of my life even modeled back in the day but now that I'm peri-menopause I have some stomach issues and it's been harder for me to get thin like that again. I've been doing the BT diet for almost a week and I feel phenomenal and I'm losing. I work out 5 days a week and always have. Maybe I should just buy the geno type book and try that from here on out..thanks guys
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Sound like you could be a hunter to me...just musing.. If I was you, I'd stay on the BTD - especially as it is working... but maybe borrow & read the GTD book & see what, if anything "jumps out" at you...(Hopefully not that deer in the headlights )
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The important thing is:
Don't worry.  Be happy!  

There is no need to panic or feel rushed.     It's ok, whichever one you do.  Take your time, relax, and do some more reading.  In the meantime as you sort out which genotype you really are, just continue eating for your blood type.  It's all good!  

For most of us, it took a while to make sure which genotype we are, and also, lots of us had a few panic attacks.  So you're not alone.



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Quoted from beachlvr58
Thanks peppermint twist and chloe..I'm not sure I'm an explorer now when i read the physical attributes. I did measure legs and fingers but I'm tall, long legged and muscular. I was thin most of my life even modeled back in the day but now that I'm peri-menopause I have some stomach issues and it's been harder for me to get thin like that again. I've been doing the BT diet for almost a week and I feel phenomenal and I'm losing. I work out 5 days a week and always have. Maybe I should just buy the geno type book and try that from here on out..thanks guys

That sounds like a good plan, especially since you are having such good results on the BTD.  If it ain't broke, don't fix it, as they say.  Now, that doesn't mean you might not transition to the GTD at some point, even some point in the near future, but there is no rush.  Get the book, read and study it, take the time to figure out your genotype properly, and then re-assess if you want to change.  They are both awesome diets, it's just a matter of finding out which one works best for you.  I'd give the BTD a longer time and that way you will have a good basis for comparison if you ever do try the GTD.

I'm sort of in the same place that you are with BTD v. GTD, only I'm there re GTD v. SWAMI.  I have SWAMI, but I have not yet gotten the fingerprint kit and I jumped the gun and sort of guessed (bad) at my fingerprint patterns, and entered them.  So now I don't know if that skewed my results.  In due time, I'll get the fingerprint kit (I've had a few other things on my plate over the last few months, at the same time as I got SWAMI) and figure things out properly.  If my fingerprint patterns are different from what I entered, I'll call NAP and get them to allow me to change them (some things in SWAMI you can change yourself at any time, but others are considered permanent and can't be changed without calling), and then I'll run the program again and THEN, only if I want to (and I'm sure I shall want to), I'll try SWAMI for a while and see how it flies.  I'm having fabulous results with the GTD, so like I just advised you re your BTD, there is no hurry to change.  The GTD adds more customization than the BTD, and SWAMI adds exquisite, extreme customization, even more so than the GTD, so it is all about taking it to the next level...although that is more true for going from GTD to SWAMI and not exactly true of going from BTD to GTD, as they are two different systems.  While the GTD considers many more factors and is more customized in most ways, in some ways, the BTD may be more specific.  Like, for example, chicken is a black dot for my GTD type, but for O's, it's neutral...I think the black dot comes in because there are both O and B Gatherers, and chicken is BAD for B's due to a classic lectin issue.  So in that one example, the BTD was more specifically customized for that one food, anyway, for me.  BTD is also inherently/by nature an anti-inflammatory diet, whereas GTD takes into account and balances various pro's and con's of each food, so it may not be quite as anti-inflammatory across the board as the BTD, so, for example, for someone with fibromyalgia, like my twinnie Brighid45, the BTD may be the better choice.  It is very individual and you will find out by trying both, basically, and taking that little quiz that Dr. D. concocted, which you have already done...so you know that the GTD may work even BETTER than the BTD for you, yet you also are experiencing great results with the BTD.  I believe that is a classic case of:  it's all good!




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Quoted from Victoria
The important thing is:
Don't worry.  Be happy!  

There is no need to panic or feel rushed.     It's ok, whichever one you do.  Take your time, relax, and do some more reading.  In the meantime as you sort out which genotype you really are, just continue eating for your blood type.  It's all good!  

For most of us, it took a while to make sure which genotype we are, and also, lots of us had a few panic attacks.  So you're not alone.

ALERT:  just read your post, after posting my last post, and realized that we said almost identical things!  Brig and I may have to add you as a triplet to our twin-ness.

(I hope that last line made any sense...I'm still detoxing from being nuked and all, and every so often I make even less sense than usual...hopefully, that's a temporary sitch.)


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Quoted from beachlvr58
I was thin most of my life even modeled back in the day but now that I'm peri-menopause I have some stomach issues and it's been harder for me to get thin like that again. I've been doing the BT diet for almost a week and I feel phenomenal and I'm losing. I work out 5 days a week and always have. Maybe I should just buy the geno type book and try that from here on out..thanks guys


I'll bet dollars to donuts..(get it? donuts? HAHA!HA!HA!) since you don't have much of a weight problem that you're a Hunter. You can order the GenoType Diet from Amazon, NAP or borrow it from your local library.(call first to see if they have it)    And until you decide, just follow the O diet.. Some members here still just follow the O diet because they like it better and feel better on it.
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Since you're doing so well on the BTD, I suggest staying with that for at least a couple of months before you try something different. You KNOW you're an O. You're not (at this point) certain if you're a Hunter or an Explorer (and there's still a slim chance of your being a Gatherer too.)


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You guys are incredible ..thanks I'm staying on the BTD for now. I feel amazing.
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Sound like you could be a hunter to me...just musing.. If I was you, I'd stay on the BTD - especially as it is working... but maybe borrow & read the GTD book & see what, if anything "jumps out" at you...(Hopefully not that deer in the headlights )


Might be a good thing if shes a hunter
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Quoted from beachlvr58
You guys are incredible ..thanks I'm staying on the BTD for now. I feel amazing.
That is what is supposed to happen!  

Enjoy.  If you feel a need later on, the books, the board, and professional help will still be available.  

There is a great mix of people here, who share your thirst for health.  The board provides interesting discussion; you never know what you can learn!    


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Quoted from Peppermint Twist

ALERT:  just read your post, after posting my last post, and realized that we said almost identical things!  Brig and I may have to add you as a triplet to our twin-ness.

(I hope that last line made any sense...)


It made total sense, and I'm willing and happy to be adopted into the twinnyness as a third member, thus making triplets out of us!     And I hope that line made sense . .  



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I find what is stressed in this discussion is very important : that the progression from BTD to GTD and maybe finally to Swami should be smooth, if possible, excepted of course if a serious health issue necessitates to be quickly dealt with.

When I first discovered the BTD, by reading ER4YT, at the beginning of April this year, I got caught by Dr. D's enthousiasm about what can be achieved throught the diet (like many people, I assume) and I found myself quite hungry to learn and do everything... asap. Of course I did read his advice to integrate changes little by little into one's life but it's like I just couldn't do it.

As a complete beginner, I searched for support and advice and first went on a french internet board. There, someone urged me to read GTD and answer the questions helping to choose between BTD and GTD. It turned out it should be GTD for me. So I bought the book, measured myself (wrongly, at first, because I was too much in a hurry) and changed my diet again before I had had time to integrate the one for A's.

As I'm thinking about the past seven months, I realize that the transition from BTD to GTD has been too rapid. I'd have needed more time to accustom myself... not only to a new diet but to a totally new concept: the one that different blood groups determine different metabolisms. To me, this accounts for the deep annoyance I experienced at some point (when I found out that according to Swami I was an Explorer rather than a Warrior). It took me time to understand why I was so annoyed while just a few days earlier I was quite happy and excited on reception of Swami and when I ran it for the first time.

However. Things happened the way they did and I did learn a lot in a short time. Still, if I could start over again, I believe I wouldn't switch from BTD to GTD so quickly but I would take the necessary time to learn and integrate the theory as well as to go over my general knowledge in nutrition again.

I think that the persons who stress that there is no hurry to quit BTD if it is satisfactory provide newbies with good advice.

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Great advice from all here... I'm not sure it is a lack of patience I believe some simply have the personaliy/genes that encourage an inate passion to embrace change, new knowledge, etc, as things "feel right". More fully, with more vigor and needless to say with the expectation of results. And that my friends can be difficult to deal with as some intimately know and others may be able to imagine...

It is that individual instict we all have and need to listen to that will leads us on our own journey which we are responsible for.  Be ok with what you do for you. There are many very wise and intelligent people here on these forums to provide insight, advice, and personal experience to provide input in helping to make decisions; however the decisions utimately must be made by us.

And the beautiful aspect of life, being individuals, and have been given free will, is we are (in most situations) able to change direction as we go and see appropriate

Here is a thought: Each of us exchanges a day of our life for what we decide to do with that day. So at the end of each day pause to see if you are pleased with what you did with that day... And begin each day with a decision to do that which you will be pleased with as it draws to a conclusion




If you keep doing what you've always done, and you keep getting what you've aways got, perhaps it's time for a change...
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Good morning, Golfzilla !
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I believe some simply have the personaliy/genes that encourage an inate passion to embrace change, new knowledge, etc, as things "feel right". More fully, with more vigor and needless to say with the expectation of results.

  So it might be my "Explorer's nature" (only 40% though ) that drove me to... explore restlessly this wide field ? Interesting. Needs to be thought about.  
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Agathe my friend, perhaps... I can't say as I sure do not know. Learning is what the journey is all about. I am all about results, it's just my nature.

However as anxious as I become wanting "to know" and "to get" results one must recognize and come to accept the journey is dynamic which also provides the excitement and allure of the unknown!




If you keep doing what you've always done, and you keep getting what you've aways got, perhaps it's time for a change...
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Learning is what the journey is all about. I am all about results, it's just my nature.

Learning is nourishing, I agree with you. And results (the evidence that the theory is relevant) encourage us to learn more about the process. So the former stems from the latter, and vice versa.
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Agathe~ Indeed, it becomes self-fulfilling!




If you keep doing what you've always done, and you keep getting what you've aways got, perhaps it's time for a change...
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You guys are incredible ..thanks I'm staying on the BTD for now. I feel amazing.

And that's what it's all about.  Listening to your body, which you are doing.  If it ain't broke, no need to fix it.  You may wish to experiment with the GTD later, but no rush, especially since you "feel amazing".  It may well be that the BTD is the right diet for you, and even if you experiment and try the GTD, you might go back to the BTD.  Whichever one you feel best on, that's the one to stick with.  And it may take time to figure that out, but again, no rush, especially since you are having splendid results on the BTD.  Keep up the good work!



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