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joji732
Thursday, October 22, 2009, 8:19pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Okay - I'm probably jumping the gun here, but a quick tour around the forum makes me think I'm not alone.

I ordered my SWAMI earlier today, along with a Genotyping kit to help with the measurements. I've been telling myself that I'm working with the BTD for a while now, but I honestly haven't been very compliant.  I'm hoping that, knowing that the SWAMI list is based upon many facets of who I am, rather than just blood type, will help me to stick to it more closely.  (I've also read some encouraging posts that seem to indicate that cravings aren't as bad once you are eating the foods that are really right for you.)

I am doing this to lose weight.  In fact, weight has been my issue my whole life - my pediatrician put me on a diet at the ripe old age of 18 MONTHS! In spite of being obese (to put it in BMI terms) for almost 50 years, I am blessed that I do not suffer from other health issues.  I want to catch it now and make sure it stays that way.

The facts I know about myself - I am O-.  Probably a non-secretor (had my first filling at the ripe old age of 2...) but won't be able to test until after Thanksgiving.  I have a tendency toward hypoglycemia, and I suffer from Essential Tremor (which is exacerbated by the hypoglycemia), but other than that, I am in good health.

Here is my dilemma.  I am scheduled to participate in a retreat the weekend of November 12-15.  There will be LOTS of food, and most of it will be non-compliant.  I will bring certain things (such as Chevre) to have on the common table so I can manage my blood sugar, but meals are a different story.  I will certainly make sure that there is animal protein available for each meal, but beyond that, it is basically whatever the facility chooses to serve.  

In the past, I've found that once I get past the first week on an eating plan, I can generally do well in sticking with it (at least for a period of time).  And that raises the question - is it better for me to start, stop and restart, or simply to wait the three weeks until the event is over?  My usual motto (and MO) is, "There's no time like the present," but I don't want to make things harder on myself than they need to be.
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Drea
Thursday, October 22, 2009, 8:22pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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My suggestion is to start now, knowing that you may not be 100% compliant during your retreat. It's never too late to start, and restart.


It is not my responsibility to convince anyone of anything.
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Victoria
Thursday, October 22, 2009, 8:30pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Where health is concerned, I would not waste any time getting started.  If you eat all kinds of things at the retreat, let it just be what it is.    But then get right back on the path to health.  Pronto!  



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Let me not pass you by in quest
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Pink
Thursday, October 22, 2009, 10:52pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I agree - I think that the longer you put off starting, the more likely you are to talk yourself out of it.  Once you see your SWAMI results, I think you'll be surprised how many choices will still be available to you - I got back several favorite foods with my SWAMI that I didn't have on either the BTD or GTD.

Plus, I'm sure I remember reading that Dr. D. recommends moving into this slowly rather than overnight so you're more likely to make it a true lifestyle change - not just a fad


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geminisue
Thursday, October 22, 2009, 11:05pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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The best place to start is to start eliminating your avoids, at the rate of one or two a week.  (that doesn't mean you will never ever touch them at this point) It's a head start on a good life plan coming up!
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joji732
Friday, October 23, 2009, 2:39pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Thanks all!  I really appreciate the feedback.  I was particularly encouraged by Pink's reminder to do this slowly, and Geminisue's suggestion to start by removing 1 or 2 avoids.  On that basis, OUT GOES THE WHEAT!  I know it affects me negatively, and I look forward to being without the post-nasal drip and achy joints that visit me when I eat it!  It's one of the toughest things for me to get over, but probably something that I can limit at the retreat with some success.

Onward and downward!
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Victoria
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You will be so happy about this decision, joji!  



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Let me not pass you by in quest
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geminisue
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So Proud you are making this effort now!
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Wholefoodie
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Hi joji,
I started the diet late last fall and I knew the holidays would be a challenge. I didn't let that stop me and just did the best I could. I quickly started to feel better so this helped me want to stay compliant but I didn't put a lot of pressure on myself.

Jersey shore! I'm a jersey girl too, transplanted to PA. We are the same age and I think you are going to love what this diet can do for you.

Best of luck,
Lisa


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Mrs T O+
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Is the first activity of the rereat the evening meal? Maybe you can arrive late & skip that.
Can you take small cans of tuna & other meats with you? Is there a refrigerator where you can store things?  If not, get some packaged things from the health food store. Maybe a small bottle of olive oil for fat to add to certain foods is my idea. I crave fat & can't have mayo, etc. so I put 'OO' on things. Take a little sea salt. If they don't serve salad, maybe a 'carton' of cherry tomatoes would be an easy fresh veggie snack as well as some celery.
I assume this is a religious retreat. If your religious paradigm includes fasting, one of the days may be a good day to do that!
Does the retreat end Sunday noon?  If they serve a meal then, you can leave early, altho other retreats I hear about leave before that.
My 2 cents worth.........


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joji732
Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 11:18am Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Thanks, Mrs. T.  The retreat actually runs from Thursday night, just after dinner, until Sunday evening, just before dinner.  Unfortunately, fasting is not an option because of my tendency to hypoglycemia.

When I first wrote this post, I was mostly concerned about 2 things - wheat, and the never-ending snack table that's available from Friday morning until Sunday noon.  I've figured out a number of compliant items I can bring to help with the snack table issue - faux popcorn (just discovered this, and it is yummy!), almonds and walnuts, and a private stash of Unibars.  That leaves me with the wheat.

The reason I struggle so with this, is that I know myself.  In the past, I've cut all sugar and sweeteners from my diet, and managed to stick with it for 9 months.  But once I allowed myself one little taste (a single chocolate chip cookie, to be exact), I couldn't stop myself and, within a short time, I was back to binging on sugary items once more. And I was never as successful at giving up the sugar again.  So, the thought of giving up wheat for several weeks - and then putting myself in a position where I KNOW I will be consuming wheat - is frightening.  However, as I sat here and wrote this, I realize that I can combat this by baking some compliant baked goods (muffins, cookies, whatever) before I leave, so I can come home and still enjoy that TYPE of item without giving in to the wheat.
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If this is any encouragement to you....

When I was on the BTD (and before, of course) I had uncontrollable sugar cravings.  Like you, if I had one little mouthful, I'd eat the entire thing and not even remember eating it later.  It's almost as if my brain was so drugged by the sugar (sugar made me feel like I'd had alcohol), I had no power over what I was doing.  I'd eat and eat and eat and be sick later (not like actually throwing up, but feeling really bad).  And I'd hate myself.  But I couldn't stop.

Very quickly when I went on the GTD, that stopped.  My salt cravings stopped and my sugar cravings stopped.  In fact, my body has healed so well on the GTD that I can now occasionally eat something as horrible as, say, cheesecake, and not react a bit!  I don't recommend this, mind you, I'm just saying that I can do it because I'm not allergic to dairy anymore (thanks to the GTD) and my sugar cravings are totally gone.  Now if I choose to eat sugar, not only do I not feel drunk, I also can stop at one taste and be satisfied.  It doesn't spark cravings anymore.  I hope this will be the same way for you.


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Victoria
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Same here, Ribbit!  



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I've personally found that it's different if I have my "cheats" away from home. I can eat something non-complaint at a friend's house or a catered affaire, and it won't have much effect on the foods I buy and prepare at home when I return. If I bake something "just for the kids" and take a small taste, I may end up eating too much of it and throwing my body out of balance. But if its served at a table, and I take some or not, and don't have the leftovers to tempt me later, it just doesn't have the same effect on the rest of my diet.

Start making the dietary changes as soon as you're able to, at whatever pace you're comfortable with. Then go to the conference and do your best with the choices available. Then come home and pick up right where you left off.


Ruth, Single Mother to 19yo   O- Leah , 18yo O- Hannah, and  12yo B+ Jack


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paul clucas
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If you are going to pack "doggie bags" full of compliant food for the seminar, why don't you use the Geno Harmonic combination that you find most appealing?

Tuna and radish is favourite of mine.  If I was at such a seminar I would keep refrigerated bags of tuna/radish (finely chopped) mix and sneak some just before a meal is scheduled.  You can then just pick away at the official meal (trying to get the fresh vegetables and fruit)  Also think about your drink:  I got a Bubba Keg (52 oz) which can take a pot full of green tea and Agave nectar.  The agave will gently keep your blood sugar up; but you will need experience on how it will affect you before you go.

At will take a little more work, but I hope you enjoy your weekend!
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joji732
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Thanks for the thoughts, Paul.  Unfortunately, having special food set aside somewhere just isn't possible.  I'm on the leadership team, and one of our goals for the weekend is that no one should appear to get any type of special treatment.  That's why I'm thinking I should pack compliant items that can go on the common table.  I am DEFINITELY bringing green tea, yerba mate and agave nectar!
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If you bring your own stuff, that doesn't seem like special treatment to me. If someome was a diabetic & had to bring food or insulin shots, we would respect that. Actually, you are on a special diet.  Maybe you could mention that in passing as you speak.  Maybe bring some extra snacks to share which you said you would on the table.
I actually avoid certain activites as I can't eat the food. If it is OK, sometimes the portions are too small & if I ate it, it would stimulate my appetite & make me miserable. So I find it easier to avoid the activity or go after the food is served.
I checked that the retreat is Nov. 12-15. Let us know how it went.


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