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Tom O
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I know this has been discussed before, but I didn't find a clear answer. Is black pepper when freshly ground still OK? It used to be on the BTD. My SWAMI says best avoided.

I do a lot of Italian cooking where black pepper is used extensively. I kind of miss it.
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I am now avoiding all as well.....fresh ground as well


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Perhaps look at the pepper alternatives mentioned in this thread:

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1254586823/


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I have been using paprika since it is a SF for me in my SwamiX. It adds spiciness to food without overwhelming me. I have Hungarian paprika and also 2 kinds of Spanish Pimenton, one of which is rather hot. Although these don't approximate the taste of black pepper, which I actually don't really enjoy, they broaden what I can eat as an A type.
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No kind of pepper for me either.   I get shin splints when I eat it.  I use other spices for the heat like paprika, ginger, curry, etc.

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Search your HFS (health food stores) for dried Papaya seeds, apparently they got some sort of spicy taste that could be used as a substitute for pepper.  If Papaya is in your allowed food, maybe the seeds could also be beneficial.  




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papayin powder is used as a meat tenderizer

also helps with jellyfish burns.....it agglutinates the lectin causing the burn


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Quoted from Lola
papayin powder is used as a meat tenderizer

also helps with jellyfish burns.....it agglutinates the lectin causing the burn


Oh!  I always wondered why that worked.  Does it work for other bites/stings as well?  Or is it just jellyfish-specific?


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No kind of pepper for me either.   I get shin splints when I eat it.



Hm. Curious.  I get them some but I'd never tied it in with black pepper.  I foresee an experiment in the near future.


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I have a great suggestion for black pepper: Grains of Paradise.  It has a really pepperly flavor.  It is found in Whole Foods and health food stores and ethic stores as well.
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Thanks for all the suggestions! I'll have a look at the health food store and report back if I find anything.
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Quoted from Shelly
I have a great suggestion for black pepper: Grains of Paradise.  It has a really pepperly flavor.  It is found in Whole Foods and health food stores and ethic stores as well.


Hey Shelly...can you tell us what is in it, please?  Thanks.

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Grains of Paradise is a west African Plant. It is related to ginger.

Here is a source in Southern Ontario:

http://www.thespicetrader.ca/detail.aspx?ID=143


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I went to a spice shop today and even though the vendor had heard of grains of paradise they didn't stock it. They did stock so called long pepper though (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_pepper). Apparently it can be used as a black pepper substitute. Has anyone ever tried of it?
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I read somewhere on this forum years ago that black pepper is bad because of the mold that grows on it after it's ground.  I keep a grinder and peppercorns in my cupboard and when a recipe really needs black pepper, I grind it fresh.  I probably use it a couple of times a month.  Caesar salad really needs lots of black pepper, IMO.  


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use seaweed, dries and ground with other compliant spices to sprinkle on your food...


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Quoted from Ribbit
Does it work for other bites/stings as well?  Or is it just jellyfish-specific?


You can use bleach for wasp/bee stings, if you use it immediately or at least pretty quickly after getting stung. I used to work at a pharmacy, and my boss said the thing that makes a bee sting "sting" is a strong acid, while bleach is a strong base, so if you get stung, pour a bit of bleach on the sting, and it will neutralize it. I've used that several times since learning about it, and it works!


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