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Paula 0+
Sunday, October 11, 2009, 5:49pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator
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I just completed a cross country road trip with my daughter, we drove from CA to CT
in four days.  While driving, I only had tea in the mornings.  2 days into the trip I kept getting migraines in the early afternoon.  I realized it was the withdrawal from the strong coffee that I was drinking with my husband in CA (Peets).  I know it is an avoid, it was the one that I had trouble breaking with over the past few years of btding.  Well, after figuring out why I was getting the headaches and a couple of excedrin migraine tablets, not being able to sleep from the caffeine in the excedrin, etc.  I think I am caffeine sensitive.  I had put into swami that I am NOT because I have been drinking the heavy duty stuff for so long, I think that I may be sort of "burned out" from it.  I want to change my swami by email to them this week.  Any comments?  
I want to say that I have been drinking Jasmine Green tea in the mornings, and I feel so much more calm in general.  I have been fighting this "addiction" for many years.  I think that my husband may never give up his coffee, and I just have to be ok with that, and ok that I drink my own teas instead.  
On the road my daughter kept pointing out my nervous habits because we were in close quarters and she couldn't help noticing them.....caffeine I think....
And lastly, we had to make potty stops, one was Dunkin Doughnuts, a place I loved
as a young adult, many moons ago.  They have GREEN TEA!  It was actually pretty good stuff!
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Tom O
Sunday, October 11, 2009, 7:21pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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I was wondering about the same thing. In order to test whether I was caffeine sensitive, I drank a cup of coffee about 2 hours before going to bed. Note that I normally never drink coffee, not even before I started on the BTD because I never acquired a taste for it. I did manage to fall asleep, but it was a very light sleep and I woke up a few times during the night. Then again, I always thought that this was normal (if you drink coffee so late), so I also put down insensitive in SWAMI.
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Tom,
It's great that you never developed the habit of coffee drinking.  I have been doing it since college in the '70's.  Periodically I give it up for tea.  Over the years I have been kept up at night, it's just in the last couple of years that I can't tell anymore, but maybe that is from using coffee for so many years....you develop a tolerance for it I guess.  Not really sure.
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     Hi I've had an interesting experience which may or may not have been related to coffee, a week & a half ago...I have never been too sure on whether I was caffeine sensitive, as I never drank it past mid afternoon...&  I also eat plenty of dark chocolate...However, I know dark chocolate eaten in the evening, will keep me awake all night
I'd developed a strong-coffee drinking habit in the last few years (after previously rarely touching it...) as being a sales rep for an Italian coffee Co (yum ) didn't help, with free access to supplies... Anyway...I decided to experiment, did a bit of a detox  & gave it up from mid Aug to late Sep with no withdrawal symptoms...I was still making it for my husband each morning & loved the smell & taste, so late week before last, I had two cups each morning on Thurs & Fri...
     Thurs I was fine, except actually felt tireder than usual but Fri, just after finishing my second cup I literally felt as if a truck hit me in the forehead/sinus area...I then proceeded to have a slightly pounding headache (but only if leaning forward??!!) but no nasal symptoms & later I also noticed my neck was stiff...
I rarely get sick & don't know if it was related to the coffee & certainly didn't connect the two...Spent the day inhaling peppermint, to clear my head and had a few more cups on both Sat & Sun...
     I felt quite drained & slept 10 hours staight both Sun & Mon nights which is unusual for me... Decided not to have any more coffee on Mon & Tues & was still feeling foggy even into Wed afternoon...I then became clear headed by Thurs and still don't know it it was just a virus or the effect of the coffee?? Wondering if my system could've become desensitised to coffee in a few short weeks, so as to have that effect??!!
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I used to drink coffee a lot - well I didn't know any better then, and that's what there was. I slept fine, but I had headaches every Saturday morning when I woke up later than usual, after I would normally have had my first cup. I changed jobs and cut down to one cup a day, if that, and noticed that when I drank it after about 4pm it interfered with my sleep.

Years later I gave it up completely for the BTD, not a major challenge. After a year or so I was out with some friends from the "surely a little bit won't hurt you" brigade. We met at Starbucks and I had a decaf black coffee. Three sips and I turned into a zombie. I couldn't think, my head felt like there was cotton wool inside, I couldn't hold my head up from exhaustion but my heart was pounding and my brain was whirring. I felt like the first stages of the flu - achy, fidgety, tired out but restless. We all sat there for hours, chatting, getting refills. I gave my coffee away and chugged water. After 5 hours, my brain suddenly cleared, as though someone had wiped a cold wash-cloth across it, and I was OK.

Man that was a horrible afternoon and when anyone has tried the "a little bit won't hurt, surely" on me again, I've just said 5 hours out of my life is too big a price to pay.

I guess that means I'm caffeine-sensitive!  


Note to self: I am me, and also an O-nonnie - I'm allowed not to fit the mould.
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Wow, from your post... I'm thinking, after the minor detox I did...that maybe it was coffee that affected me
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Of course the story reads different for As (some at least). Coffee is a diamond in my SwamiX and I have not drunk the stuff for many, many years before.  Always thought it was no good and that it will stop me from going to sleep at night.  Let me add, even without the coffee that was hard anyway (going to sleep easily).  I was surprised when GTD/Swami not only allowed me to have coffee, but it is super food and diamond!!  So I started drinking it, once or twice a day (to DH's pleasured, he always loved the stuff) and I have been sleeping soundly since.  But of course the rest of the diet had to be blamed for that too. Curse for some, blessing for others, thank you to the clever person that created the lifestyle that puts that into practice!! I wonder who that is??




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Yes, my A hubby gives me my coffee "fix" at weekends when he fills our apartment with the heavenly scent of freshly ground beans... mmmm.... I've stopped feeling resentful now!


Note to self: I am me, and also an O-nonnie - I'm allowed not to fit the mould.
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As I sip my cup of jasmine green tea, I am thinking I can stay away from coffee this time for good.  I am back in California, but my body is still on east coast time today.  It really is interesting how a beverage like coffee can effect us so differently.  My type A dad (82) still drinks his morning decaf.  I remember when my mom started making decaf how the stress level in the mornings dropped at our home in NJ.  My type B hubby still drinks the strong stuff in the morning and I wonder if he is a gatherer or an explorer.  I wish I could convert him to this diet, but I guess I need more compliance and success first and maybe he will come around......   Thanks all for sharing, it makes me feel happier about the green tea.
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I am soooo sensitive to caffeine, mainly coffee. It never made me feel good, racing heart, etc. and I was never a coffee drinker.

I visited Italy last fall and the host of the Villa offered us expresso upon arrival. How could one say no to this deep rooted tradition or risk insulting the host? Well, that little shot of espresso had me up for nearly three days!!!!!!


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As Cristina just mentioned, the story for A's (non-explorer's) could be completely different. I can drink a very strong coffee at 11pm and then go to bed and sleep immediately. In the morning, I come out fresh with no problems. Even two or three cups are fine! I think caffeine sensitivity and some health problems arising from coffee could be different. A hunter's body is not coffee friendly too, but I would not call it caffeine sensitive, as in the case of an explorer.



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Monday, October 12, 2009, 5:39pm Report to Moderator Report to Moderator

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Quoted from Cristina
I was surprised when GTD/Swami not only allowed me to have coffee, but it is super food and diamond!!

It's surprising indeed. I think many of us keep somewhere the idea that things that are very enjoyable have to be "bad" for health...

That's what is neat with this diet: I think that everybody can find in his food list something he used to regard as "bad" for him and would eat (or drink) with some guilt in the background. What a relief when this think becomes SF  

As an Explorer, coffee is an avoid now   I like it so much that I'm not ready to give up. For it takes me hours to really wake up if I don't have my cup of... very dark coffee in the morning. This means I am cafeine sensitive, I guess. I feel able to drop the expresso after lunch and the third one around 3 p.m. but not the first one of the day. For the moment.

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I love coffee, but have learned that it doesn't like me.

In addition to the effect if I do it late in the day (disturbed sleep), since I started avoiding it (most of the time), my sensitivity is so high that if I do even a single cup per day of full-strength coffee three or more days in a row I begin to have breast tenderness. Given that I have surgery induced menopause (due to fibroids, which always acted up when I drank it before the surgery) I really try to avoid it.
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